Terry Rozier is a Blood !

[Andrew McCeltic]

Not trying to pick on gang members, though, when you're born into violence, poverty, over-policing, and toxically stressful environments, it's harder to resist something that offers respect and belonging. People have always defended and even romanticized the mafia in the same way- it's not *just* brutal violence and retribution, it's, like, family.

[Walker88Boston]

Too be clear I have little to no problem with what Terry has done to this point. My only concern was that it's easier to make mistakes in certain environments such as when you hang out with gang members. BuT gangs are also families that go out and get money together (get money boyz), the best way for rozier to get money is through basketball and I'm willing to bet he and his boys know that.

Are they selling lemon aid or going door to door selling baked goods?

Your confusing the word family for another word that means loving and nurturing and always abiding by the law to set a god example. That's not what family means. Think of all the organized crime families that have existed through time. Family especially in the gang sense just means the people you trust more than others.

[GuyClinch]

Well even if Terry is in a gang - or just friends with a gang - its likely IMHO to be a problem after his career not during. imho - he would do well to get out to avoid being pressured when he is done playing. TA for example seems to be doing okay now - but who knows how he will fare after his playing days.. That's the worry you have. I hope he gets out. Being involved with the worst elements of your culture is always a problem.

btw - Recent hacks reveal BLM funded by George Soros.. BTW. It's not some grass roots movements fighting for black rights..Don't be fooled. Of course if the chant "Pigs in a Blanket, Fry like Bacon" doesn't clue you in to the divisive nature of the movement - nothing will.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Well even if Terry is in a gang - or just friends with a gang - its likely IMHO to be a problem after his career not during. imho - he would do well to get out to avoid being pressured when he is done playing. TA for example seems to be doing okay now - but who knows how he will fare after his playing days.. That's the worry you have. I hope he gets out. Being involved with the worst elements of your culture is always a problem.

btw - Recent hacks reveal BLM funded by George Soros.. BTW. It's not some grass roots movements fighting for black rights..Don't be fooled. Of course if the chant "Pigs in a Blanket, Fry like Bacon" doesn't clue you in to the divisive nature of the movement - nothing will.

So what you're doing, choosing outliers and using them to smear the whole, is kind of like taking a 7-25 night by Lebron James and repeating endlessly how he's overrated because he can't even shoot 30 percent.

[GuyClinch]

So what you're doing, choosing outliers and using them to smear the whole, is kind of like taking a 7-25 night by Lebron James and repeating endlessly how he's overrated because he can't even shoot 30 percent.

Whatever dude - there are legit Black rights groups you can support. Like the head of the Black Panthers.. You want to support some Soros backed group because of the catchy name.. I can't help you with basic issues like that..

Quannel responded saying, “He (Trump) spoke directly to black people, and I want to say, and encourage the brothers and sisters, Barrack Obama, our president, served two terms. The first black president ever. But, did our condition get better? Did financially, politically, academically with education in our community, did things get better?”

He continued illustrating his point asking, “Are our young people working more than what it was when he came into office? Their condition got worse.”

“So now,” he surmised, “We’ve got to do what the honorable Eliah Muhammad said, ‘No politician can save the black community.’ We’ve gotta do it ourselves.”

“Only a fool fights in a burning house,” Quanell X said. “This house is on fire.”

Quannel is a black Panther leader. People like you think you are doing some great favour to African Americans supporting thugs - but in reality this hurts them more then it hurts people like me. Show leniency on gang members because you 'feel bad' for them gets people shot..

It's dumb - and what's worse you are being manipulated. I am part Italian. I don't hold any special place in my heart for the Mafia. Sure my relatives were poor coming over - but Italians suffered more then anyone from Mafia thugs. Blacks suffer more from anyone from Black thugs.

[c3j3h]

Outsider here- Just want to say I think it's hilarious to read through this thread. I see most of you just writing all of this stuff off about Rozier having some legit gang connections, being connected to a prostitution ring in college, posting videos of naked strippers on his Snapchat, etc, yet so many of you claim that the Celtics couldn't possibly give up any significant assets to trade for Boogie Cousins because he has problems...

So gang affiliations are no big deal, but if you argue with the refs, then you're cancerous and have no business being a Celtic...

[GregB]

Outsider here- Just want to say I think it's hilarious to read through this thread. I see most of you just writing all of this stuff off about Rozier having some legit gang connections, being connected to a prostitution ring in college, posting videos of naked strippers on his Snapchat, etc, yet so many of you claim that the Celtics couldn't possibly give up any significant assets to trade for Boogie Cousins because he has problems...

So gang affiliations are no big deal, but if you argue with the refs, then you're cancerous and have no business being a Celtic...

That's pretty awful analysis. I know a lot of Celtics fans are willing to give up 2/3 of Brown and the two Brooklyn picks plus other assets. At the least everyone concedes at least one of those assets plus a ton of other good young assets.

Don't make generalizations based on the opinion of one or two overzealous fans.

[GoCeltics123]

Outsider here- Just want to say I think it's hilarious to read through this thread. I see most of you just writing all of this stuff off about Rozier having some legit gang connections, being connected to a prostitution ring in college, posting videos of naked strippers on his Snapchat, etc, yet so many of you claim that the Celtics couldn't possibly give up any significant assets to trade for Boogie Cousins because he has problems...

So gang affiliations are no big deal, but if you argue with the refs, then you're cancerous and have no business being a Celtic...

Don't listen to Celtics fans that say they don't want Boogie, I'd give up a lot to get him myself and I'm sure others would too. Not his fault his franchise hasn't been run well in a decade.

[Captain_Caveman]

Outsider here- Just want to say I think it's hilarious to read through this thread. I see most of you just writing all of this stuff off about Rozier having some legit gang connections, being connected to a prostitution ring in college, posting videos of naked strippers on his Snapchat, etc, yet so many of you claim that the Celtics couldn't possibly give up any significant assets to trade for Boogie Cousins because he has problems...

So gang affiliations are no big deal, but if you argue with the refs, then you're cancerous and have no business being a Celtic...

"But if you argue with the refs"?

Dude... first of all, no one is claiming we should get top 5 picks for Rozier.

Second, this is no proof of being a gang member and the guy really has no record of bad behavior in life or in the locker room.

Third, I've been around a lot of pro athletes, and know many people who are or who have been deeply connected to them. I can tell you unequivocally that the Kings have done everything they can to hide Cousins' bad behavior. For every outburst you have heard about, they have squashed ten more. I have never heard of a guy who is more universally hated by everyone around him than Cousins is. Teammates, coaches, media, arena workers... over a period of several years, 95% of them hate this guy and his childish, negative and habitually disruptive attitude with the intensity of a thousand suns. The fact that you think it is just about scowling at refs shows you have no idea what you are talking about, but carry on, I guess.

Last, why would we give up top-shelf assets for the guy when his value is only going to go down? That team is going to suck, and he is going to continue to CONSTANTLY be a complete bitch about it.

You'll see. I guarantee it. Not one chance in a thousand it doesn't happen, IMO.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Outsider here- Just want to say I think it's hilarious to read through this thread. I see most of you just writing all of this stuff off about Rozier having some legit gang connections, being connected to a prostitution ring in college, posting videos of naked strippers on his Snapchat, etc, yet so many of you claim that the Celtics couldn't possibly give up any significant assets to trade for Boogie Cousins because he has problems...

So gang affiliations are no big deal, but if you argue with the refs, then you're cancerous and have no business being a Celtic...

"But if you argue with the refs"?

Dude... first of all, no one is claiming we should get top 5 picks for Rozier.

Second, this is no proof of being a gang member and the guy really has no record of bad behavior in life or in the locker room.

Third, I've been around a lot of pro athletes, and know many people who are or who have been deeply connected to them. I can tell you unequivocally that the Kings have done everything they can to hide Cousins' bad behavior. For every outburst you have heard about, they have squashed ten more. I have never heard of a guy who is more universally hated by everyone around him than Cousins is. Teammates, coaches, media, arena workers... over a period of several years, 95% of them hate this guy and his childish, negative and habitually disruptive attitude with the intensity of a thousand suns. The fact that you think it is just about scowling at refs shows you have no idea what you are talking about, but carry on, I guess.

Last, why would we give up top-shelf assets for the guy when his value is only going to go down? That team is going to suck, and he is going to continue to CONSTANTLY be a complete bitch about it.

You'll see. I guarantee it. Not one chance in a thousand it doesn't happen, IMO.

How's he compare to Rondo in Boston, or young Rasheed Wallace or Chris Webber?

And why aren't they trying to trade him, since he's that awful?

[Captain_Caveman]

Outsider here- Just want to say I think it's hilarious to read through this thread. I see most of you just writing all of this stuff off about Rozier having some legit gang connections, being connected to a prostitution ring in college, posting videos of naked strippers on his Snapchat, etc, yet so many of you claim that the Celtics couldn't possibly give up any significant assets to trade for Boogie Cousins because he has problems...

So gang affiliations are no big deal, but if you argue with the refs, then you're cancerous and have no business being a Celtic...

"But if you argue with the refs"?

Dude... first of all, no one is claiming we should get top 5 picks for Rozier.

Second, this is no proof of being a gang member and the guy really has no record of bad behavior in life or in the locker room.

Third, I've been around a lot of pro athletes, and know many people who are or who have been deeply connected to them. I can tell you unequivocally that the Kings have done everything they can to hide Cousins' bad behavior. For every outburst you have heard about, they have squashed ten more. I have never heard of a guy who is more universally hated by everyone around him than Cousins is. Teammates, coaches, media, arena workers... over a period of several years, 95% of them hate this guy and his childish, negative and habitually disruptive attitude with the intensity of a thousand suns. The fact that you think it is just about scowling at refs shows you have no idea what you are talking about, but carry on, I guess.

Last, why would we give up top-shelf assets for the guy when his value is only going to go down? That team is going to suck, and he is going to continue to CONSTANTLY be a complete bitch about it.

You'll see. I guarantee it. Not one chance in a thousand it doesn't happen, IMO.

How's he compare to Rondo in Boston, or young Rasheed Wallace or Chris Webber?

And why aren't they trying to trade him, since he's that awful?

Probably because he is a 7-footer with diverse talents.

I don't have Kings people at the top of the food chain, but can say that there has obviously been a ton of debate among the Kings brass about what to do about the guy. Vlade apparently loves him, but he may also be on the Billy King level of competence as a GM. Does anyone have faith in him to do the right thing here? I can also say that DMC has multiple suspensions for what I would say are cumulative transgressions. I keep using the work habitual, and would put it in that context. He has bad behavior, and has been put on notice about it, and done nothing to change it. Rinse, lather, repeat. I think that's important. He's basically a big-time toxic, disrespectful, a-hole that thinks he is above the rules. It got to a point where they couldn't even suspend him for going on a long, expletive-filled rant against an established coach in front of the entire team, after all.

As to Rondo, I'd say it is similar except that Rondo was a total gamer and this guy is not. Rondo was also never drafted high, nor did anyone, in years of Ainge trying to trade him, ever offer significant value for him. As much as people here hated the deal at the time, we were obviously lucky to even get Crowder for him.

Ditto Sheed, who was never traded for value. Nor was Artest or Rodman. And none of those dudes ever succeeded on anything but veteran, star-laden teams with coaches who were proven at handling tough personalities.

I have no doubt that Ainge would trade value for Cousins in the right context, but I suspect if we were going to offer multiple Nets picks and/or Jaylen, this would be done already. Or maybe the Kings are just that delusional.

Either way, not our problem.

On a related note, can we stop pretending this guy is some sort of dominant player? Couldn't make the Final Four on a stacked Kentucky team, can't do **** for years on the Kings, got benched for DeAndre after we almost blew several games vs ordinary teams in the Olympics.

[GuyClinch]

Outsider here- Just want to say I think it's hilarious to read through this thread. I see most of you just writing all of this stuff off about Rozier having some legit gang connections, being connected to a prostitution ring in college, posting videos of naked strippers on his Snapchat, etc, yet so many of you claim that the Celtics couldn't possibly give up any significant assets to trade for Boogie Cousins because he has problems...

You do realize right that on a message board you can't lump everyone together.. I am sure plenty of guys here would give up a lot for Boogie. Others think he is a d-bag who won't play hard. Rozier busts - so most of us have no issues from a sports perspective. And he never has been in any dustup either..

[ddb]

Rozier getting off team plane in Philly rocking red pants, red shoes, red bag, white shirt. He's definitely affiliated with the Bloods.

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[Captain_Caveman]

Rozier getting off team plane in Philly rocking red pants, red shoes, red bag, white shirt. He's definitely affiliated with the Bloods.

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Still not buying that dude is some sort of active Blood. That's usually just the equivalent of repping your neighborhood for these athletes. He's giving respect to gang members he knows, perhaps... but these guys are too busy being famous NBA players to get into that ****, for the most part.

[SichtingLives]

ddb so bent out of shape on rozier that he's bumping absolute clown balls old threads. sadly beats fake insider news by a nose

[truth18]

[Homerclease]

Rozier getting off team plane in Philly rocking red pants, red shoes, red bag, white shirt. He's definitely affiliated with the Bloods.

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Or his favorite color is red. What an ignorant stupid post

[Patsfan1081]

How is this thread not locked yet? No Rozier isn't a Blood, and no GMB doesn't stand for the sect of Bloods the kid is in, it's a lifestyle(By the way there's more than just one Blood sect with those initials). Do people really think Rozier would be throwing up gang signs at a recent charity game for a fallen police officer or at his basketball camp for kids. I know, this is a Rozier recruiting kids into his small local Blood chapter.....

[Scoonie]

Rozier has never had any off-the-court problems with the Celtics, so I would give him the full benefit of the doubt on these types of things. There is zero evidence that he is involved in any gang-related activity.

[chakdaddy]

I'm more concerned about his diet