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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#321 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:43 pm

Johnstarks wrote:I think simmons and noel are the perfect frontcourt pairing. Noel makes up for some of simmons defensive limitations. And simmons and noel is a good rebounding duo. Simmons is a penetrator who can drop dimes that Noel can catch and dunk.

If you run the pnr with simmons teams will just go under the screen. So you use simmons off the ball and noel as the screen & dive with Rodriguez on the ball. Rodriguez is an able shooter and passer. If he cycles to simmons he's a guy who can cut, put the ball on the floor, pass, etc.

Simmons is an extremely dangerous player. In summer league he didn't even need screens to just bulldoze towards the basket. You put enough shooters around this guy and he's gonna kill teams.

Remember that in the postseason the goal is to go as small as possible without sacrificing too much rebounding.


This is all what he can do with noel. If embiid stays healthy it gets significantly scarier. But since we don't know if hes healthy yet you keep noel. Because okafor doesn't fit with any of this


I agree with just about everything you said except the goal of the postseason is to go as small as possible without sacrificing too much rebounding. I would say the goal of the postseason is to put your best team on the court. If your team has good bigs then you play them. OKC utilized Kanter and Adams on the court at the same time against Golden St because it was effective for them. It worked. They got more rebounds. And when Kanter became a liability they sat him. Each team has to put their best team on the court. It's not just being small. If Embiid stays healthy then our best team will have Simmons and Embiid on the court at the same time. That's not a small team.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#322 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:47 pm

eagereyez wrote:There is no chance in hell that Okafor can play PF. He is too slow to even play center. I can't take anyone seriously when they suggest that. Best case scenario, Okafor becomes average defensively at the center position. That's best case scenario.

Noel is a terrific defender who is exceedingly efficient albeit in limited ways. He fits with Simmons and Saric. He is the Embiid injury insurance. I don't see how Okafor fits with this team long-term. Maybe as a backup like Kanter.


Okafor could fit the team long term IF he can changes his mindset. I said this before. He has been the most sought after player every year he has played basketball on every level and in one year in the NBA he became a dinosaur and many people say you can't win with a player like him. Where I say he needs to change his mindset is if he can accept becoming a bench player. This would be the toughest thing he would ever have to accept in his basketball life. He might not be able to do it like AI late in his career but IF Okafor can accept his limitations and be comfortable coming off the bench a la Kanter and playing 20-25 minutes per night without making a big stink about it then he definitely can be on this team long term and be a good contributor to a winning team.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#323 » by rzzzzz » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:54 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:IF Okafor can accept his limitations and be comfortable coming off the bench a la Kanter and playing 20-25 minutes per night without making a big stink about it then he definitely can be on this team long term and be a good contributor to a winning team.


still early in his rookie contract. ideal for backing up Embiid, while working on skills to extend minutes. (don't think Nerlens is going to want to hang around as a back-up, and has the impending RFA status to force a trade.)
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#324 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:00 am

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Unbreakable99 wrote:IF Okafor can accept his limitations and be comfortable coming off the bench a la Kanter and playing 20-25 minutes per night without making a big stink about it then he definitely can be on this team long term and be a good contributor to a winning team.


still early in his rookie contract. ideal for backing up Embiid, while working on skills to extend minutes. (don't think Nerlens is going to want to hang around as a back-up, and has the impending RFA status to force a trade.)


I don't really have a problem with him being a backup if Simmons can't stick at SF and Okafor can't transition to PF but I do think we have to try and give it a shot before moving him into a backup role. Not because I really have a problem with him playing 25 minutes a night in that role because if Simmons does become our starting PF and Okafor is the backup C/PF.

How are we going to find minutes for the rest of our bigs including Saric?
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#325 » by rzzzzz » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:55 am

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I don't really have a problem with him being a backup if Simmons can't stick at SF and Okafor can't transition to PF but I do think we have to try and give it a shot before moving him into a backup role. Not because I really have a problem with him playing 25 minutes a night in that role because if Simmons does become our starting PF and Okafor is the backup C/PF.

How are we going to find minutes for the rest of our bigs including Saric?


it's going to be interesting, eh?
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#326 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:24 am

What's the meaning of "simmons' defensive limitations?" Is this guy a poor defender? You can't have 79 ratings in 2k if you are a poor defender. And ever he is, it's ridiculous to not expect him not to be a good defensive player in time.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#327 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:45 pm

Johnstarks wrote:I think simmons and noel are the perfect frontcourt pairing. Noel makes up for some of simmons defensive limitations. And simmons and noel is a good rebounding duo. Simmons is a penetrator who can drop dimes that Noel can catch and dunk.

If you run the pnr with simmons teams will just go under the screen. So you use simmons off the ball and noel as the screen & dive with Rodriguez on the ball. Rodriguez is an able shooter and passer. If he cycles to simmons he's a guy who can cut, put the ball on the floor, pass, etc.

Simmons is an extremely dangerous player. In summer league he didn't even need screens to just bulldoze towards the basket. You put enough shooters around this guy and he's gonna kill teams.

Remember that in the postseason the goal is to go as small as possible without sacrificing too much rebounding.


This is all what he can do with noel. If embiid stays healthy it gets significantly scarier. But since we don't know if hes healthy yet you keep noel. Because okafor doesn't fit with any of this


First of all, the post season is a big mans game. By that I mean you better be able to score through contact because you aren't getting the same calls.

Going small almost killed the GSW against OKC. The Cav's didn't really go small either. TOR advanced through two rounds getting nothing out of Lowry and Derozan. Val carried them.

Secondly, Noel can't catch he lead the team in turnovers last year despite having one of the lower usg rates on the team and had a 18.7 TOV. League average is 14.4.

I don't get either how Noel and SImmons make a good rebounding duo. Noel is a poor rebounder. Besides his raw numbers which are also poor the team rebounded better with him off the court rather then on and rebounded better with Okafor on the court
and Noel off.

Rodriguez is not a guy I want taking a ton of shots or playing many minutes off the ball. If Simmons does turn into someone who we are comfortable as our primary ball handler I'd much rather have Bayless on the court and have Rodriguez leading the second unit.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#328 » by Sixerscan » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:13 pm

Playing Simmons at the 4 isn't small ball.
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Post#329 » by phifans » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:10 pm

Why we have to play small ball ?
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Post#330 » by the_process » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:13 pm

This stuff never gets old.

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Post#331 » by Chris4Vikes » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:17 pm

I am going to get League Pass this year just to watch how the Sixers work their rotation and find time for Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric, and Noel. This is going to be entertaining.
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Post#332 » by kriss73 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:45 pm

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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#333 » by Ericb5 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:04 pm

Chris4Vikes wrote:I am going to get League Pass this year just to watch how the Sixers work their rotation and find time for Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric, and Noel. This is going to be entertaining.


One of Okafor or Noel will be traded, probably before the season(although time is running out) or at the trade deadline.

Until then, I'm assuming that they play Simmons at the 3, Okafor and Saric split the 4, and Embiid and Noel split the 5.


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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#334 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:19 pm

The best fit with Embiid, Simmons and Saric stays. I think Noel has the upper hand . I could see a Noel extension coming if he can play PF along side Embiid.
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Post#335 » by Chris4Vikes » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:19 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Chris4Vikes wrote:I am going to get League Pass this year just to watch how the Sixers work their rotation and find time for Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric, and Noel. This is going to be entertaining.


One of Okafor or Noel will be traded, probably before the season(although time is running out) or at the trade deadline.

Until then, I'm assuming that they play Simmons at the 3, Okafor and Saric split the 4, and Embiid and Noel split the 5.


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I agree that BC wants to trade one of them, but if there was a trade out there, it would have happened. Going to be fun to see how long players and agents can behave.

And I disagree that Okafor will play any 4, unless losing is not a concern still.
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Post#336 » by the_process » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:33 pm

Chris4Vikes wrote:
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Chris4Vikes wrote:I am going to get League Pass this year just to watch how the Sixers work their rotation and find time for Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric, and Noel. This is going to be entertaining.


One of Okafor or Noel will be traded, probably before the season(although time is running out) or at the trade deadline.

Until then, I'm assuming that they play Simmons at the 3, Okafor and Saric split the 4, and Embiid and Noel split the 5.


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I agree that BC wants to trade one of them, but if there was a trade out there, it would have happened. Going to be fun to see how long players and agents can behave.

And I disagree that Okafor will play any 4, unless losing is not a concern still.


They all have no choice because no one is being given away. And your team is certainly not getting one at a discount, which is your underlying agenda.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#337 » by LloydFree » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:03 am

Chris4Vikes wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Chris4Vikes wrote:I am going to get League Pass this year just to watch how the Sixers work their rotation and find time for Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Saric, and Noel. This is going to be entertaining.


One of Okafor or Noel will be traded, probably before the season(although time is running out) or at the trade deadline.

Until then, I'm assuming that they play Simmons at the 3, Okafor and Saric split the 4, and Embiid and Noel split the 5.


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I agree that BC wants to trade one of them, but if there was a trade out there, it would have happened. Going to be fun to see how long players and agents can behave.

And I disagree that Okafor will play any 4, unless losing is not a concern still.

Since you're obsessed with getting Noel on your team, wouldn't going to the Kings for Willie Cauley-Stein be a reasonable alternative? Why not go on the Kings board and push Rozier and Hunter for Caulie-Stein?
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#338 » by Foshan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:13 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:The best fit with Embiid, Simmons and Saric stays. I think Noel has the upper hand . I could see a Noel extension coming if he can play PF along side Embiid.

If he can't play PF next to Okafor, he won't be able to play it next to Embiid. Not sure how this is still a question. Noel's game is defense at the rim which he can't do if he is chasing 4's around, seemingly.
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Post#339 » by CoreyGallagher » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:00 pm

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Just get ready for either, but it seems like Noel.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#340 » by Sixersftw » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:25 pm

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Just get ready for either, but it seems like Noel.


And BB said he expected to go into the season with all the bigs 2 days before that on 97.5. Trying to parse every rumor, statement, and omission seems fruitless.
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