Who do you expect to under perform?

[bondom34]

Hezonja vs. Morrow is a wash at best, Mario was a limited rookie.

I think Hezonja will be better by Morrow by quite a margin - the kid has way more tools.

Also, I would not be shocked at all to see Ilyasova carve out a really good role for himself - he pretty much is the best 3 pt shooter on the roster and will be your stretch 4.

Agree he should be better in the future, but last year he managed a TS of .541 with bad defense and a 1:1ish assist:TO ratio. I'm not sure he makes that big a leap just yet. I also don't expect much of Ersan tbh, I think Sabonis starts by all star break, maybe right after.

[Yuri Vaultin]

Hezonja vs. Morrow is a wash at best, Mario was a limited rookie.

I think Hezonja will be better by Morrow by quite a margin - the kid has way more tools.

Also, I would not be shocked at all to see Ilyasova carve out a really good role for himself - he pretty much is the best 3 pt shooter on the roster and will be your stretch 4.

Agree he should be better in the future, but last year he managed a TS of .541 with bad defense and a 1:1ish assist:TO ratio. I'm not sure he makes that big a leap just yet. I also don't expect much of Ersan tbh, I think Sabonis starts by all star break, maybe right after.

Don't sleep on Lauvergne!

[basketballRob]

Might be missing something, but 70 percent of Magic fans on the team's board think they'll make the playoffs.

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100% of Thunder fans think they'll make the playoffs and I think the Magic will be better than them this season.

OK and so do most fans of teams highly likely to?

1. I'll take that bet.

2. Because the Thunder are better than the Magic.

That's your opinion.

[bondom34]

100% of Thunder fans think they'll make the playoffs and I think the Magic will be better than them this season.

OK and so do most fans of teams highly likely to?

1. I'll take that bet.

2. Because the Thunder are better than the Magic.

That's your opinion.

And pretty much everyone's, and is pretty well based in knowledge. Orlando isn't as good as the Thunder, and likely won't be over .500. I don't see a way they reach 45 wins.

[basketballRob]

OK and so do most fans of teams highly likely to?

1. I'll take that bet.

2. Because the Thunder are better than the Magic.

Westbrook >> Payton
Fournier > Oladipo
Gordon > Singler/Roberson lol
Ibaka > Ily/Sabonis lol
Vuc = Adams

Orlando bench > OKC bench

Vogel > Donovan

lol no, about no chance.

And if you'd realy like to try a sig bet or something I'll go.

Adams is way better than Vuc (Vuc and Kanter maybe), and Gordon is a second year player who in the future may be better, but at this point that hasn't translated to being better than Roberson. Dipo and Fournier are at worst equal. And Donovan's had his team in year 1 as far as Vogel ever did. You're expecting 45 wins out of that Magic roster is quite a leap.

And the bench for Orlando isn't good either.

I think the Magic are better and it's not really close.

[bondom34]

Westbrook >> Payton
Fournier > Oladipo
Gordon > Singler/Roberson lol
Ibaka > Ily/Sabonis lol
Vuc = Adams

Orlando bench > OKC bench

Vogel > Donovan

lol no, about no chance.

And if you'd realy like to try a sig bet or something I'll go.

Adams is way better than Vuc (Vuc and Kanter maybe), and Gordon is a second year player who in the future may be better, but at this point that hasn't translated to being better than Roberson. Dipo and Fournier are at worst equal. And Donovan's had his team in year 1 as far as Vogel ever did. You're expecting 45 wins out of that Magic roster is quite a leap.

And the bench for Orlando isn't good either.

I think the Magic are better and it's not really close.

You're free to. You can also believe the earth is flat and believe in the tooth fairy, it doesn't mean its true. That is...how can I say...a very "out there" thought.

[basketballRob]

OK and so do most fans of teams highly likely to?

1. I'll take that bet.

2. Because the Thunder are better than the Magic.

That's your opinion.

And pretty much everyone's, and is pretty well based in knowledge. Orlando isn't as good as the Thunder, and likely won't be over .500. I don't see a way they reach 45 wins.

'People tend to overrate teams that were recently good but things change.

[basketballRob]

lol no, about no chance.

And if you'd realy like to try a sig bet or something I'll go.

Adams is way better than Vuc (Vuc and Kanter maybe), and Gordon is a second year player who in the future may be better, but at this point that hasn't translated to being better than Roberson. Dipo and Fournier are at worst equal. And Donovan's had his team in year 1 as far as Vogel ever did. You're expecting 45 wins out of that Magic roster is quite a leap.

And the bench for Orlando isn't good either.

I think the Magic are better and it's not really close.

You're free to. You can also believe the earth is flat and believe in the tooth fairy, it doesn't mean its true. That is...how can I say...a very "out there" thought.

Keep thinking the Thunder are still an elite team. Maybe a majority of fans and media might agree but I think it just isn't true.

[bondom34]

That's your opinion.

And pretty much everyone's, and is pretty well based in knowledge. Orlando isn't as good as the Thunder, and likely won't be over .500. I don't see a way they reach 45 wins.

'People tend to overrate teams that were recently good but things change.

There was a 20 win difference last year and Orlando has the most baffling roster in the NBA. OKC has at least 3 players I take before anyone on Orlando, and Orlando has zero chance to be better. I'd ask you to create a poll somewhere because I'd frankly love the results.

[basketballRob]

And pretty much everyone's, and is pretty well based in knowledge. Orlando isn't as good as the Thunder, and likely won't be over .500. I don't see a way they reach 45 wins.

'People tend to overrate teams that were recently good but things change.

There was a 20 win difference last year and Orlando has the most baffling roster in the NBA. OKC has at least 3 players I take before anyone on Orlando, and Orlando has zero chance to be better. I'd ask you to create a poll somewhere because I'd frankly love the results.

The Thunder will be painful to watch, possibly the worst shooting team in the league.

[Prez]

Westbrook >> Payton
Fournier > Oladipo
Gordon > Singler/Roberson lol
Ibaka > Ily/Sabonis lol
Vuc = Adams

Orlando bench > OKC bench

Vogel > Donovan

lol no, about no chance.

And if you'd realy like to try a sig bet or something I'll go.

Adams is way better than Vuc (Vuc and Kanter maybe), and Gordon is a second year player who in the future may be better, but at this point that hasn't translated to being better than Roberson. Dipo and Fournier are at worst equal. And Donovan's had his team in year 1 as far as Vogel ever did. You're expecting 45 wins out of that Magic roster is quite a leap.

And the bench for Orlando isn't good either.

I think the Magic are better and it's not really close.

This isn't the first time I've seen you say this in a Magic related comparison, and again it's not even remotely true.

I remember last summer you said you would rather have Aaron Gordon over Giannis "and it's not even close". Still funny to me.

In any case, when your team won in the 30s last year and the other team has Russell Westbrook, it's kinda hard to take your post seriously.

[bondom34]

'People tend to overrate teams that were recently good but things change.

There was a 20 win difference last year and Orlando has the most baffling roster in the NBA. OKC has at least 3 players I take before anyone on Orlando, and Orlando has zero chance to be better. I'd ask you to create a poll somewhere because I'd frankly love the results.

The Thunder will be painful to watch, possibly the worst shooting team in the league.

And will still have a remarkably better offense than Orlando.

[basketballRob]

lol no, about no chance.

And if you'd realy like to try a sig bet or something I'll go.

Adams is way better than Vuc (Vuc and Kanter maybe), and Gordon is a second year player who in the future may be better, but at this point that hasn't translated to being better than Roberson. Dipo and Fournier are at worst equal. And Donovan's had his team in year 1 as far as Vogel ever did. You're expecting 45 wins out of that Magic roster is quite a leap.

And the bench for Orlando isn't good either.

I think the Magic are better and it's not really close.

This isn't the first time I've seen you say this in a Magic related comparison, and again it's not even remotely true.

I remember last summer you said you would rather have Aaron Gordon over Giannis "and it's not even close". Still funny to me.

In any case, when your team won in the 30s last year and the other team has Russell Westbrook, it's kinda hard to take your post seriously.

I said Aaron Gordon was putting up comparable numbers taking into consideration he's 1 year younger. let's stay on topic.

[bondom34]

Actually the exact quote was this.

Giannis by a mile.

Most people think that but I would take Gordon and it's not even close.

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[basketballRob]

There was a 20 win difference last year and Orlando has the most baffling roster in the NBA. OKC has at least 3 players I take before anyone on Orlando, and Orlando has zero chance to be better. I'd ask you to create a poll somewhere because I'd frankly love the results.

The Thunder will be painful to watch, possibly the worst shooting team in the league.

And will still have a remarkably better offense than Orlando.

We have the Smash Brothers we don't need offense.

After Oladipo gets the max next season your backcourt payroll might be higher than Orlando's whole team.

[basketballRob]

Actually the exact quote was this.

Giannis by a mile.

Most people think that but I would take Gordon and it's not even close.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1399808&p=44366702#p44366702

Stay on topic.

[bondom34]

The Thunder will be painful to watch, possibly the worst shooting team in the league.

And will still have a remarkably better offense than Orlando.

We have the Smash Brothers we don't need offense.

After Oladipo gets the max next season your backcourt payroll might be higher than Orlando's whole team.

You'll be scoring 80 a game, and yea, you will.

And the second comment is totally irrelevant to this season, and no it still won't unless of course Ibaka leaves for nothing.

[bondom34]

Actually the exact quote was this.

Most people think that but I would take Gordon and it's not even close.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1399808&p=44366702#p44366702

Stay on topic.

Just correcting a lie.

[basketballRob]

Actually the exact quote was this.

Giannis by a mile.

Most people think that but I would take Gordon and it's not even close.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1399808&p=44366702#p44366702

So, I like Gordon. I don't feel like Giannis has the mindset to be a star.

[basketballRob]

And will still have a remarkably better offense than Orlando.

We have the Smash Brothers we don't need offense.

After Oladipo gets the max next season your backcourt payroll might be higher than Orlando's whole team.

You'll be scoring 80 a game, and yea, you will.

And the second comment is totally irrelevant to this season, and no it still won't unless of course Ibaka leaves for nothing.

My guess is Ibaka takes a cap friendly deal to stay in Orlando.