The 2016 Offseason Thread

SideSwipe · Post #1401 » by **SideSwipe** » Thu Sep 1, 2016 4:40 pm

Carl Landry to fill out the bench a little better? I would probably be okay releasing Jenkins to get him. A great role player vet. Maybe start him early in the season, while the youngsters are warming up.

Will not be what we go with nightly, but the vet lineup looks like this:

Bledsoe/ Ulis/ Goodwin
Knight/ Booker/ Barbosa
Tucker/ Warren/ Bender
Landry/ Chriss/ Williams
Chandler/ Len

Post #1402 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Sep 1, 2016 4:42 pm

SideSwipe wrote:Carl Landry to fill out the bench a little better? I would probably be okay releasing Jenkins to get him. A great role player vet. Maybe start him early in the season, while the youngsters are warming up.

Will not be what we go with nightly, but the vet lineup looks like this:

Bledsoe/ Ulis/ Goodwin
Knight/ Booker/ Barbosa
Tucker/ Warren/ Bender
Landry/ Chriss/ Williams
Chandler/ Len

Yes, he'd be another great vet at a position of need and a bigger thicker PF that we might need on occasion. Though you forgot Dudley.

LukasBMW · Post #1403 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Sep 1, 2016 5:20 pm

Training camp starts 9/26!

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/08/22/phoenix-suns-keep-camp-stage-scrimmage-nau/89107414/

Although many Suns players join voluntary workouts leading up to training camp, the players officially must report on Sept. 26 in Phoenix before heading north for camp, Sept. 27 to Oct. 1.

The Suns' camp practices, which include two-a-day sessions, are held at NAU's Rolle Activity Center and closed to the public, but fans are invited to attend an Oct. 1 intrasquad scrimmage at noon in NAU's Walkup Skydome. Two days later, the Suns will open their six-game preseason schedule in Phoenix against the San Antonio Spurs.

NTB · Post #1404 » by **NTB** » Fri Sep 2, 2016 12:17 am

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SideSwipe · Post #1405 » by **SideSwipe** » Fri Sep 2, 2016 7:32 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:Carl Landry to fill out the bench a little better? I would probably be okay releasing Jenkins to get him. A great role player vet. Maybe start him early in the season, while the youngsters are warming up.

Will not be what we go with nightly, but the vet lineup looks like this:

Bledsoe/ Ulis/ Goodwin
Knight/ Booker/ Barbosa
Tucker/ Warren/ Bender
Landry/ Chriss/ Williams
Chandler/ Len

Yes, he'd be another great vet at a position of need and a bigger thicker PF that we might need on occasion. Though you forgot Dudley.

I knew I forgot someone. I actually meant to have he or Tucker at the 2 for the super vet lineup. Need to make sure we got him cheap on a multi though, or a richer 1 yr deal.

Saberestar · Post #1406 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Sep 2, 2016 10:45 am

Please, NO to Landry or another corpse.

We have Chandler, Dudley, Tucker and Barbosa...we don't need more veteran players.

Post #1407 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Sep 2, 2016 1:17 pm

In case you missed Mr. Twister's post in the Bender thread, I will throw it in here as well.

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gaspar · Post #1408 » by **gaspar** » Fri Sep 2, 2016 4:49 pm

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SSOL · Post #1409 » by **SSOL** » Fri Sep 2, 2016 5:07 pm

Suns going back to the purple outline on the court.

Post #1410 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Sep 2, 2016 5:32 pm

SSOL wrote:Suns going back to the purple outline on the court.

Awesome. About time.

NTB · Post #1411 » by **NTB** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 12:06 am

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Jdiddy701 · Post #1412 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 12:09 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SSOL wrote:Suns going back to the purple outline on the court.

Awesome. About time.

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Post #1413 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 12:26 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Source? Picture?
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That post WAS the source.

OGBAH · Post #1414 » by **OGBAH** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 12:42 am

Congrats on/to big source/sauce

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1415 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 5:10 am

Wonder what's happening with Len's extension talks.

asudevil · Post #1416 » by **asudevil** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 8:09 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Wonder what's happening with Len's extension talks.

probably nothing. He hasnt shown that he's worth the max. So the right move is to let it play out for this season and match anything he gets offered.

IMO based off of what was offered this offseason to other Centers, he WOULD have been a max guy if he was a RFA, and offering him the max today could blow up in their faces. After this season, the suns will look at matching any offer he's given. He's very unlikely to take the QO next year based off of his injury history.

Len has to prove his worth. So in order for the sun's to think about maxing him from the start of next offseason he's going to have to CONSISTENTLY put up 15/10/1.5. Anything less they'll have to evaluate what he gets offered from another team.

Post #1417 » by **batsmasher** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 10:21 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
SSOL wrote:Suns going back to the purple outline on the court.

Awesome. About time.

Source? Picture?

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probs talking about the NBA 2K17 leak which had the purple outline.

MrMiyagi · Post #1418 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 10:25 am

asudevil wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Wonder what's happening with Len's extension talks.

probably nothing. He hasnt shown that he's worth the max. So the right move is to let it play out for this season and match anything he gets offered.

IMO based off of what was offered this offseason to other Centers, he WOULD have been a max guy if he was a RFA, and offering him the max today could blow up in their faces. After this season, the suns will look at matching any offer he's given. He's very unlikely to take the QO next year based off of his injury history.

Len has to prove his worth. So in order for the sun's to think about maxing him from the start of next offseason he's going to have to CONSISTENTLY put up 15/10/1.5. Anything less they'll have to evaluate what he gets offered from another team.

Extending doesn't automatically mean giving a guy max money. Getting into contract talks now could give the message that we want you here on this team and would forgo the whole courting process and overpay. I doubt we match a max offer sheet for Len, or extend him one ourselves. He'll probably get double digit millions, but I doubt he'll more than Bledsoe and Knight from us. But, the other part of this is whether or not the Suns want to keep Len. Maybe they've already decided to go after bigger names this coming offseason and want the cap flexibility.

We haven't thrown too much money away yet, I don't see them starting now with Len. If he's in a Suns uni next season, it'll be for a very reasonable deal.

Saberestar · Post #1419 » by **Saberestar** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 11:19 am

Every decent C is earning around $16M per year...it is like in the past around $8M per year and that is his value in the league. Players like Mozgov, Biyombo or Kanter are in the same tier of Len, so it's common sense to think that with his young age and his work ethic he is gonna get the same money at least.

Post #1420 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Sep 3, 2016 12:24 pm

asudevil wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Wonder what's happening with Len's extension talks.

probably nothing. He hasnt shown that he's worth the max. So the right move is to let it play out for this season and match anything he gets offered.

IMO based off of what was offered this offseason to other Centers, he WOULD have been a max guy if he was a RFA, and offering him the max today could blow up in their faces. After this season, the suns will look at matching any offer he's given. He's very unlikely to take the QO next year based off of his injury history.

Len has to prove his worth. So in order for the sun's to think about maxing him from the start of next offseason he's going to have to CONSISTENTLY put up 15/10/1.5. Anything less they'll have to evaluate what he gets offered from another team.

Luckily so many teams overpayed for a center this year and many others drafted one the same year and will have their own RFA so their will probably be an extremely limited # of teams that are interested. Though they may figure Noel, Gobert and Adams will be matched for sure and come this way and try and overpay....Dieng probably a better bet for them and currently a better player anyway.