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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#21 » by Pharaoh » Thu Sep 1, 2016 10:35 am

Pretty sure Slava was the MVP of the Kazayakhstan league
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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#22 » by kf96 » Thu Sep 1, 2016 11:30 am

Pharaoh wrote:Pretty sure Slava was the MVP of the Kazayakhstan league


Datome was MVP of Italian league
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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#23 » by A_dub06 » Thu Sep 1, 2016 12:13 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:Anyone else remember when our guys were gushing about how great Slava Kravstov was before the season began?


Is this post skepticism of Bobans production, reflection or both? Lol


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Post#24 » by Pharaoh » Thu Sep 1, 2016 12:25 pm

kf96 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Pretty sure Slava was the MVP of the Kazayakhstan league


Datome was MVP of Italian league


I'm 1000% certain there ain't no such thing as the Kazayakhstan league mate
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Post#25 » by hoophabit » Thu Sep 1, 2016 12:47 pm

Boban will be interesting to watch. He looked impressive at times for SA last year. He has some real skill, and in those "build a wall" situations might very well be helpful.
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Post#26 » by Alexander » Thu Sep 1, 2016 3:11 pm

There are other players like Leuer in the league.
There are other players like Smith in the league.
There are other players like Ellenson in the league.

There are no other players like Boban in the league.
I am unreasonably intrigued by Boban.
Give me Boban or give me death.
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Post#27 » by ImHeisenberg » Thu Sep 1, 2016 7:41 pm

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ImHeisenberg wrote:Anyone else remember when our guys were gushing about how great Slava Kravstov was before the season began?


Yeah, but Boban has actually played a little in the league and done well. Slava never did anything.

I wasn't comparing their playing ability as much as you can't buy into biased hype.
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Post#28 » by ElectricMayhem » Fri Sep 2, 2016 11:05 am

Pharaoh wrote:
kf96 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Pretty sure Slava was the MVP of the Kazayakhstan league


Datome was MVP of Italian league


I'm 1000% certain there ain't no such thing as the Kazayakhstan league mate


WRONG! It's played in the rivers of Kazakhstan....in Kayaks. The downriver team always won EXCEPT when the might Kravstov was at the helm of the ship!
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Post#29 » by Pharaoh » Fri Sep 2, 2016 11:15 pm

ElectricMayhem wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:
kf96 wrote:
Datome was MVP of Italian league


I'm 1000% certain there ain't no such thing as the Kazayakhstan league mate


WRONG! It's played in the rivers of Kazakhstan....in Kayaks. The downriver team always won EXCEPT when the might Kravstov was at the helm of the ship!


I lol'd

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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#30 » by dVs33 » Sat Sep 3, 2016 1:23 am

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ImHeisenberg wrote:Anyone else remember when our guys were gushing about how great Slava Kravstov was before the season began?


Yeah, but Boban has actually played a little in the league and done well. Slava never did anything.

I wasn't comparing their playing ability as much as you can't buy into biased hype.


And the point I made was boban has hype around him because of what he has done, but the Slava hype was baseless.
I'm not a big boban fan, but he's proven that he can play
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Post#31 » by MotownMadness » Sat Sep 3, 2016 2:26 am

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Yeah, but Boban has actually played a little in the league and done well. Slava never did anything.

I wasn't comparing their playing ability as much as you can't buy into biased hype.


And the point I made was boban has hype around him because of what he has done, but the Slava hype was baseless.
I'm not a big boban fan, but he's proven that he can play

Yeah there's no reason to discredit what Boban has done. He's played limited mins but in those mins he's put up some of the best advanced stats in the league. Slava ain't never proven anything. Hell go watch on YouTube Boban just destroy Hassan Whiteside like he's a child. I don't think he's built to play significant mins but he is one huge dude that is going to impact the game when he is put in there.
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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#32 » by Pharaoh » Sat Sep 3, 2016 4:16 am

Not to bust the bubble for Boban fans but:

Assuming Baynes doesn't play for us beyond this season there is no guarantee Boban gets those minutes.

IF King Henry develops well over the next 13 months he could push JL to the 5 more often and take 15-20 minutes himself

Boban figures to remain what he is right now: an interesting piece that can change match ups in certain situations
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Post#33 » by In SVG We Trust » Sat Sep 3, 2016 11:26 am

Pharaoh wrote:IF King Henry develops well over the next 13 months he could push JL to the 5 more often and take 15-20 minutes himself

In my opinion, would be Henry who will play more C time if he develops his game.
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Post#34 » by ImHeisenberg » Sat Sep 3, 2016 12:24 pm

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Yeah, but Boban has actually played a little in the league and done well. Slava never did anything.

I wasn't comparing their playing ability as much as you can't buy into biased hype.


And the point I made was boban has hype around him because of what he has done, but the Slava hype was baseless.
I'm not a big boban fan, but he's proven that he can play

I think you misunderstood where my comment was coming from. We all know Boban can play in the NBA, at the very least he can go in a destroy second units in limited minutes.

My comment was coming more from the hype players post for one another that usually doesn't translate over to the regular season. Boban can play, but people shouldn't expect him to enter the game and become a world beater. Heck, he might spend the season behind Baynes on the depth chart, barring a surprise Baynes trade early in the season.
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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#35 » by Kilo » Sat Sep 3, 2016 12:56 pm

Boban is Stan Van's Revenge if teams go Bang-A-Drum to try and get Dre out of the game. Sure we'll take Dre out, but Unleash the Boban! Marjanovic is only good for maybe 8 minutes a game - but he can dominate in those eight minutes and hits FT's at a 75% clip.

Ellenson is a couple years away at least IMO. We'll cross that minutes bridge when we get to it. He needs to redshirt this year and work on his body, next season will be getting rookie minutes - garbage time and 1-2 minutes here and there. He's 19 yrs old NCAA one and done and we see ourselves as a contender.
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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#36 » by MotownMadness » Sat Sep 3, 2016 2:32 pm

Pharaoh wrote:Not to bust the bubble for Boban fans but:

Assuming Baynes doesn't play for us beyond this season there is no guarantee Boban gets those minutes.

IF King Henry develops well over the next 13 months he could push JL to the 5 more often and take 15-20 minutes himself

Boban figures to remain what he is right now: an interesting piece that can change match ups in certain situations

Once Baynes is gone I could see Boban, Leuer and Ellenson sharing backup mins between the 4/5. Both Henry and Leuer can play small ball 5.
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Post#37 » by Kilo » Sat Sep 3, 2016 3:24 pm

Henry might be able to play small ball Ce in the future but not any time soon. He was bullied in the low post physically by Justice Winslow in SL for crying out loud. Will time him some time to put on grown man strength to be able to bang even with other small ball centers in the league. For the time being he's a perimeter PF.
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Post#38 » by zeebneeb » Sat Sep 3, 2016 6:08 pm

Kilo wrote:Henry might be able to play small ball Ce in the future but not any time soon. He was bullied in the low post physically by Justice Winslow in SL for crying out loud. Will time him some time to put on grown man strength to be able to bang even with other small ball centers in the league. For the time being he's a perimeter PF.
Everyone questioned Porzingis's strength before his rookie year and he did just fine. Ellenson is far bulkier then him so I wouldn't say he's not physically able, he'll just have to work harder.

He's fine size wise, let's not make it sound like he's paper thin or something.

He is 7'(6'11.5 in shoes) 242lbs.

Strength and size are different things, but learning how to use your size is different.

I outright dismiss claims he is physically unable to play this year.

For comparison Hassan whiteside is 6'11.5 in shoes, and was listed at 227lbs at 27. He is probably around 250 now but let's not kid ourselves, ellenson is a big boy.
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Re: Andre Drummond: Boban Marjanovic 'Absolutely' Better Than Expected 

Post#39 » by hoophabit » Sat Sep 3, 2016 6:32 pm

He's surely going to play this year. Coaches will want to look at him against the real competition. So far (SL), it looks like Dleague stints are very likely. You're right though, he has adequate mass at 242lbs. I was amazed to see Justise Winslow physically post him up and score easily. Despite being 242lbs he looks very callow. What he'll do this year is up to him. The hard work comment is right. He has been with a pro team for a while now. Who knows, maybe he's been in the gym a lot and can give a better account. He didn't shoot a good percentage, but makes some beautiful shots. I'll be rooting for him.

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