Draft Position Watch Thread Locked into #9 spot

[trwi7]

It's going to be an 8 game winning streak at minimum because the Pirates play like a bunch of bitches against us.

[wichmae]

1 Atlanta Braves 46 81 .362
2 Minnesota Twins 49 77 .389
3 Arizona Diamondbacks 53 74 .417
4 San Diego Padres 53 74 .417
5 Los Angeles Angels 53 73 .421
6 Tampa Bay Rays 53 72 .424
7 Cincinnati Reds 54 72 .429
8 Oakland Athletics 55 72 .433
9 Milwaukee Brewers 56 70 .444
10 Philadelphia Phillies 59 68 .465
11 Colorado Rockies 60 67 .472
12 Chicago White Sox 60 65 .480

[wichmae]

1 Atlanta Braves 48 83 .366
2 Minnesota Twins 49 81 .377
3 Arizona Diamondbacks 55 76 .420
4 San Diego Padres 55 75 .423
5 Tampa Bay Rays 55 74 .426
6 Cincinnati Reds 55 74 .426
7 Milwaukee Brewers 56 74 .431
8 Los Angeles Angels 56 74 .431
9 Oakland Athletics 57 73 .438
10 Philadelphia Phillies 60 70 .462
11 Colorado Rockies 62 68 .477
12 Chicago White Sox 63 66 .488

[ReasonablySober]

It really is amazingly volatile from #3-#9. Any of those spots seem up for grabs with a month left in the season.

[trwi7]

We're doing a wonderful job **** ourselves.

[wichmae]

We sure are. Pittsburgh is a joke though. We all kind of knew a little that we would win a few of these but a sweep no one saw. We should see quite a few more losses going forward though.

3 vs CHI (Should be a sweep)
4 at STL (Im guessing we take one)
3 at CIN (Ill go aggressive and say we go 1-2 thensplit them at home)
4 at CHI (sweep)
3 vs PIT (Hopefully they stop sucking and sweep us though I could see either 2-1 or 1-2)
3 vs CIN (the split we go 2-1)
3 at TEX (sweep)
3 at COL (we'll take one)

So Ill say of our remaining games we go 7-15 which probably puts us around the 7 or 8 slot. Which is far from ideal. The Pirates are really screwing us and themselves at the same time.

[wichmae]

Minnesota Twins 51 86 .372
2 Atlanta Braves 54 83 .394
3 San Diego Padres 56 80 .412
4 Cincinnati Reds 57 78 .422
5 Arizona Diamondbacks 58 78 .426
6 Oakland Athletics 58 78 .426
7 Tampa Bay Rays 58 77 .430
8 Philadelphia Phillies 60 76 .441
9 Milwaukee Brewers 60 76 .441
10 Los Angeles Angels 61 75 .449
11 Chicago White Sox 65 71 .478
12 Colorado Rockies 65 71 .478

Need to drop some game here and need quite a bit of help

[wichmae]

Minnesota Twins 52 88 .371
2 Atlanta Braves 54 86 .386
3 San Diego Padres 57 82 .410
4 Cincinnati Reds 57 81 .413
5 Arizona Diamondbacks 58 81 .417
6 Tampa Bay Rays 59 79 .428
7 Oakland Athletics 60 79 .432
8 Los Angeles Angels 62 77 .446
9 Philadelphia Phillies 62 77 .446
10 Milwaukee Brewers 62 77 .446
11 Colorado Rockies 67 72 .482
12 Chicago White Sox 67 72 .482

[jakecronus8]

Disappointing way to end the season regarding draft positioning but what more can you do? Garza and Wily are pitching well which was unexpected, and the young ins are hitting. Save for blatantly shutting guys down for no reason we just gotta kinda live with it. Sucks. We are deep but we could use a blue chipper type prospect to go with Brinson.

[wichmae]

1 Minnesota Twins 53 90 .371
2 Atlanta Braves 55 88 .385
3 Arizona Diamondbacks 58 84 .408
4 San Diego Padres 59 84 .413
5 Cincinnati Reds 60 82 .423
6 Tampa Bay Rays 60 82 .423
7 Oakland Athletics 60 82 .423
8 Philadelphia Phillies 63 80 .441
9 Los Angeles Angels 63 79 .444
10 Milwaukee Brewers 64 79 .448
11 Chicago White Sox 68 74 .479
12 Colorado Rockies 69 74 .483
13 Pittsburgh Pirates 69 72

[trwi7]

All I can say is we better get a **** competitive balance lottery round A selection. Of course knowing how this **** sandwich of a season has gone, we'll be one of the few teams not to get a pick at all.

Edit: brewerfan.net explained it better than I ever could have.

Except that there is no absolute, slap-bang #3 overall player, nor is there any particular #11 overall player. Those rankings don't exist. No front office pays much or any attention to what Jim Callis, John Manuel, or anyone else is saying. All teams value these players differently because they are evaluated internally in unique constructs. The Brewers would have taken Ray at 1.1 - other teams wouldn't have taken him at 1.10. Someone's #3 is someone else's #15. And sometimes there's Jose Fernandez, who made it clear he wanted to sign with the Marlins, so he ended up with the Marlins.

There are too many variables in 30 different scouting departments to say "player A has value X" and "player B has value Y."

What's not variable are the bonus pools - those are real, verifiable numbers that all teams know they have to work with. And the more money a team is able to spend, the more players that it values highly can be acquired.

[wichmae]

1 Minnesota Twins 55 95 .367
2 Atlanta Braves 59 91 .393
3 Cincinnati Reds 63 87 .420
4 San Diego Padres 63 87 .420
5 Arizona Diamondbacks 63 87 .420
6 Tampa Bay Rays 64 85 .430
7 Los Angeles Angels 65 85 .433
8 Oakland Athletics 66 84 .440
9 Philadelphia Phillies 67 83 .447
10 Milwaukee Brewers 68 82 .453
11 Colorado Rockies 72 78 .480
12 Chicago White Sox 72 78 .480

Looks like its going to be somewhere 8-10 which sucks. We have the next 6 at home versus Pitt and Cin. Then finish with 6 on the road at Tex and Col. We really better hope for a Comp A this year or that pool is going to be very small.

[Iheartfootball]

Looks like 10th pick from here. Bummer. Could really use that extra pool money. Gonna have to really mine another year for young talent.

The Braun trade should net at least one Brinson type prospect though right? Maybe a pitcher though. What's the Dodgers system like? Should probably ask in the other thread.

[coolhandluke121]

If Braun could have fetched a Brinson-type prospect, the deal would have been done faster than a Chapman fastball. No way any team gives up anything like that given Braun's age and contract, to say nothing of the fact that they know how little leverage the Brewers have.

I'm okay with 10th. I wanted more but the point of the draft in reverse order of record is to bring competitive balance and help the worst teams. The Brewers aren't one of the 7 or 8 least talented teams so I can't really be mad that they aren't picking higher.

[Kerb Hohl]

All I can say is we better get a **** competitive balance lottery round A selection. Of course knowing how this **** sandwich of a season has gone, we'll be one of the few teams not to get a pick at all.

Edit: brewerfan.net explained it better than I ever could have.

Except that there is no absolute, slap-bang #3 overall player, nor is there any particular #11 overall player. Those rankings don't exist. No front office pays much or any attention to what Jim Callis, John Manuel, or anyone else is saying. All teams value these players differently because they are evaluated internally in unique constructs. The Brewers would have taken Ray at 1.1 - other teams wouldn't have taken him at 1.10. Someone's #3 is someone else's #15. And sometimes there's Jose Fernandez, who made it clear he wanted to sign with the Marlins, so he ended up with the Marlins.

There are too many variables in 30 different scouting departments to say "player A has value X" and "player B has value Y."

What's not variable are the bonus pools - those are real, verifiable numbers that all teams know they have to work with. And the more money a team is able to spend, the more players that it values highly can be acquired.

"We're just gonna keep guys like A-Ram at the deadline."

"They had better trade Lind, Segura, Davis, etc. or I'm gonna be really mad."

"Ugh...they aren't going to get anything for Aaron Hill."

"We're gonna keep Lucroy. I just know it."

Am I happy that we aren't getting these things in the draft? No. This has been basically as perfect of a 1.5-2 years as I've ever seen as a fan of Milwaukee teams that generally don't do "intelligent" rebuilds. We'll be fine.

[trwi7]

Thanks to our loss tonight, the Padres loss tonight and the Angels win we will now be picking 8th or 9th. The only way we can pick 8th would be if the Phillies win their final 2 games and we lose our final 2 games.

[wichmae]

Yeah looks like it'll be 9th. Unfortunate but the scenario can be saved with a comp A pick. Hopefully we land one.

[wichmae]

We will be the #9 slot. Hopefully we get a comp A pick. We'll know come winter meeting time.

[bizarro]

We will be the #9 slot. Hopefully we get a comp A pick. We'll know come winter meeting time.

Let's keep our fingers crossed the karma of having a respectable losing season reward
us with favorable results.