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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#321 » by bwgood77 » Thu Sep 8, 2016 10:51 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Too late. I ended up taking Odell.

My roster is...

QB: Big Ben
RB's: L.Bell, M.Ingram, C.Anderson, L.Murray, D. Williams
WR's: Odell, K. Allen, Baldwin, Floyd, Lockett
TE: Gates

What was it, an 8 person draft?

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I'm surprised LeVeon Bell lasted to 19th.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#322 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Sep 8, 2016 10:52 pm

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MrMiyagi wrote:What was it, an 8 person draft?

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I'm surprised LeVeon Bell lasted to 19th.

Me too.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#323 » by Stix » Thu Sep 8, 2016 11:44 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Lacy for Cooper. No way. Not even a fair trade. He's had 2 weeks to pick up Spencer Ware and Michael off the waiver wire. Its his own fault he is weak at RB.


fyi, this is a 14-team league... and we had an Auto-draft. Both Ware and Michael were drafted. Which is why I ended up with no back-up RB. My pre-draft rankings were WR heavy.

I ended up doing the trade, my logic was the same as bwgood77, just needed the reassurance before trading a player like Cooper.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#324 » by El Turco » Thu Sep 8, 2016 11:53 pm

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Arda K wrote:i am actually with bw here, i am pretty high on cooper but having sproles as your rb2 is terrible. even without cooper he has solid wr group.

It's a matter of whether you think Lacy will rush for 1000 yards this season and get more than 6 touchdowns. Cooper had a bit of an up and down year last season and got those numbers. I'd take 4 1000 yard receivers with at least 6 touchdowns each than swapping one for a 700 yard 5 touchdown back. Sproles is basically his flex as John Brown is easily a starting receiver. He'll have one week without Lamar Miller, but it'll be fine overall. At the very least he should counter to get more back.

wait i am confused, how is sproles is a flex? unless i am missing something right now sproles and starks are his only options for his second rb spot, which means he is stuck with 3-5 fpg in a prime position rest of the year unless he gets a hit on the wire.

right now he has to play sproles, getting lacy means he has more options. he can play torrey smith who is better than sproles as a flex, but also can pick up wr or rb from waivers. as it stands he essentially doesnt have an option to pick up a waiver wr if a good one is available because he already has 4 of them starting.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#325 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Sep 9, 2016 1:02 am

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Arda K wrote:i am actually with bw here, i am pretty high on cooper but having sproles as your rb2 is terrible. even without cooper he has solid wr group.

It's a matter of whether you think Lacy will rush for 1000 yards this season and get more than 6 touchdowns. Cooper had a bit of an up and down year last season and got those numbers. I'd take 4 1000 yard receivers with at least 6 touchdowns each than swapping one for a 700 yard 5 touchdown back. Sproles is basically his flex as John Brown is easily a starting receiver. He'll have one week without Lamar Miller, but it'll be fine overall. At the very least he should counter to get more back.

wait i am confused, how is sproles is a flex? unless i am missing something right now sproles and starks are his only options for his second rb spot, which means he is stuck with 3-5 fpg in a prime position rest of the year unless he gets a hit on the wire.

right now he has to play sproles, getting lacy means he has more options. he can play torrey smith who is better than sproles as a flex, but also can pick up wr or rb from waivers. as it stands he essentially doesnt have an option to pick up a waiver wr if a good one is available because he already has 4 of them starting.

Because John Brown is a starting caliber wide receiver being played as a flex, covering the difference you lack with Sproles as a RB2. Darren Sproles will put up more points than Torrey Smith, Amari Cooper will put up more points than Eddie Lacy.

But his decision is made, so no use arguing over it.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#326 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Sep 9, 2016 1:06 am

Kuechly better get credit for that forced fumble.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#327 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 9, 2016 1:17 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Kuechly better get credit for that forced fumble.


They showed a replay and it was clearly another guy.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#328 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 9, 2016 1:20 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
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MrMiyagi wrote:It's a matter of whether you think Lacy will rush for 1000 yards this season and get more than 6 touchdowns. Cooper had a bit of an up and down year last season and got those numbers. I'd take 4 1000 yard receivers with at least 6 touchdowns each than swapping one for a 700 yard 5 touchdown back. Sproles is basically his flex as John Brown is easily a starting receiver. He'll have one week without Lamar Miller, but it'll be fine overall. At the very least he should counter to get more back.

wait i am confused, how is sproles is a flex? unless i am missing something right now sproles and starks are his only options for his second rb spot, which means he is stuck with 3-5 fpg in a prime position rest of the year unless he gets a hit on the wire.

right now he has to play sproles, getting lacy means he has more options. he can play torrey smith who is better than sproles as a flex, but also can pick up wr or rb from waivers. as it stands he essentially doesnt have an option to pick up a waiver wr if a good one is available because he already has 4 of them starting.

Because John Brown is a starting caliber wide receiver being played as a flex, covering the difference you lack with Sproles as a RB2. Darren Sproles will put up more points than Torrey Smith, Amari Cooper will put up more points than Eddie Lacy.

But his decision is made, so no use arguing over it.


He can still play Sproles at flex with the trade. Cooper may score more, but Lacy will be more consistent because he is guaranteed touches every game (15-20) and probably a goal line carry and quite a few carries in the red zone.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#329 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Sep 9, 2016 3:29 am

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MrMiyagi wrote:Kuechly better get credit for that forced fumble.


They showed a replay and it was clearly another guy.

GIMME MAH POINT! :lol:
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#330 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Sep 9, 2016 3:33 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:Kuechly better get credit for that forced fumble.


They showed a replay and it was clearly another guy.

GIMME MAH POINT! :lol:

NOPE! :biggrin:
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#331 » by Latrell » Fri Sep 9, 2016 3:40 am

44 points after 1 game.

I'll take it.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#332 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Sep 9, 2016 4:09 am

Latrell wrote:44 points after 1 game.

I'll take it.

Who did you have?
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#333 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 9, 2016 4:17 am

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Latrell wrote:44 points after 1 game.

I'll take it.

Who did you have?


He has Newton and Anderson and it says 45.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#334 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Sep 9, 2016 4:28 am

Dammit Demaryius, couldn't have gotten two more yards to make it 5 points?
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#335 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Sep 9, 2016 4:42 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Dammit Demaryius, couldn't have gotten two more yards to make it 5 points?

Not In that offense. :wink:
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#336 » by El Turco » Fri Sep 9, 2016 6:00 am

Bw could have used mathieu yesterday :)
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#337 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Sep 9, 2016 4:39 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Lacy for Cooper. No way. Not even a fair trade. He's had 2 weeks to pick up Spencer Ware and Michael off the waiver wire. Its his own fault he is weak at RB.


Dude, ESPN has Lacy rated 9 spots HIGHER in their overall rankings. It's not just him REALLY NEEDING A rb, Lacy is 20th overall in relation to Cooper at 29th. http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/story/_/id/16287927/2016-fantasy-football-rankings-fantasy-football-player-rankings-top-fantasy-football-players-fantasy-football-draft

I don't live and die with ESPN ratings. Its not like they have a great track record in projections or predictions throughout the years. Most of these projections are based on last years stats anyway. New year, many things different. Nelson is back and Starks tends to relieve lacy frequently. Cooper, Carr are young, on the rise and I fully expect them to take it to the next level this year. Both Benjamin and Green are #1's on predominate running team's with defense. Cooper plays on a more wide open, stretch it down the field type offense. IMHO, I believe Cooper is your best WR. If I make a deal, I trade A.J. Green. I have concerns with his knee and I don't believe he is going into the season 100%. With Eifert out till week 4-6 and Marvin Jones gone with the uncertainty of who will step up on the other side, I fully expect Green to be double and triple teamed, especially if the Bengals can't run the ball. Plus A.J. Green will command a much better RB return to your team than Lacy.
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Re: Real GM Fantasy Football League - Week one projections and spreads up 

Post#338 » by OnceUponADime » Fri Sep 9, 2016 4:58 pm

CJ Anderson may end up looking like the steal of the draft in many leagues.
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Post#339 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 9, 2016 5:44 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Lacy for Cooper. No way. Not even a fair trade. He's had 2 weeks to pick up Spencer Ware and Michael off the waiver wire. Its his own fault he is weak at RB.


Dude, ESPN has Lacy rated 9 spots HIGHER in their overall rankings. It's not just him REALLY NEEDING A rb, Lacy is 20th overall in relation to Cooper at 29th. http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/story/_/id/16287927/2016-fantasy-football-rankings-fantasy-football-player-rankings-top-fantasy-football-players-fantasy-football-draft

I don't live and die with ESPN ratings. Its not like they have a great track record in projections or predictions throughout the years. Most of these projections are based on last years stats anyway. New year, many things different. Nelson is back and Starks tends to relieve lacy frequently. Cooper, Carr are young, on the rise and I fully expect them to take it to the next level this year. Both Benjamin and Green are #1's on predominate running team's with defense. Cooper [;ays on a more wide open, stretch it down the field type offense. IMHO, I believe Cooper is your best WR. If I make a deal I trade A.J. Green. I have concerns with his knee and I don't believe he is going into the season 100%. With Eifert out till week 4-6 and Marvin Jones gone with the uncertainty of who will step up on the other side, I fully expect Green to be double and triple teamed, especially if the Bengals can't run the ball. Plus A.J. Green will command a much better RB to your team than Lacy.

I can see why you join 53 leagues. Gotta win at least one. Trade AJ Green? Get outta here with that nonsense.

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Post#340 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Sep 9, 2016 5:54 pm

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Dude, ESPN has Lacy rated 9 spots HIGHER in their overall rankings. It's not just him REALLY NEEDING A rb, Lacy is 20th overall in relation to Cooper at 29th. http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/story/_/id/16287927/2016-fantasy-football-rankings-fantasy-football-player-rankings-top-fantasy-football-players-fantasy-football-draft

I don't live and die with ESPN ratings. Its not like they have a great track record in projections or predictions throughout the years. Most of these projections are based on last years stats anyway. New year, many things different. Nelson is back and Starks tends to relieve lacy frequently. Cooper, Carr are young, on the rise and I fully expect them to take it to the next level this year. Both Benjamin and Green are #1's on predominate running team's with defense. Cooper [;ays on a more wide open, stretch it down the field type offense. IMHO, I believe Cooper is your best WR. If I make a deal I trade A.J. Green. I have concerns with his knee and I don't believe he is going into the season 100%. With Eifert out till week 4-6 and Marvin Jones gone with the uncertainty of who will step up on the other side, I fully expect Green to be double and triple teamed, especially if the Bengals can't run the ball. Plus A.J. Green will command a much better RB to your team than Lacy.

I can see why you join 53 leagues. Gotta win at least one. Trade AJ Green? Get outta here with that nonsense.

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When your weak in an area and loaded in another you have to give up something to get something. We just disagree on who. I like Amari Cooper better than Green this year. What did you want me to do, lie to the guy with my honest feeling? And yes, I have 53 drafted teams, 12 more than last year actually. To be more honest, by the luck or should I say the unlucky draft order set, I was forced to draft Julio Jones in 17 of them. I traded him away in all but 2 leagues. And the 2 leagues I still have him in, he is still on the trading block and I don't regret it at all.

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