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Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year

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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#41 » by gts1 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:54 am

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dockingsched wrote:So which player that's no longer on the team is he talking about? Kobe? Hibbert? I know he previously said he learned so much from Bass and how much he appreciated him.


IMO Kobe... I think he's made it pretty clear he's not the biggest Kobe fan.


It's Byron and his staff as a whole. Larry has praised Kobe over and over again via social media.

Iwas going to say the same. All he does is gushes about Kobe so if he referencing Kobe now it's clear that he's (Nance) is the problem. Also agree that this is the type of stuff that needs to stay in the locker-room.


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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#42 » by lake_show » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:40 am

I disagree with the "this stuff should stay in the locker room" statments.

None of the people he was talking about are still on the team. And, since this is the first time we hear anything like this from him proves that last year he, and any of the other players who felt the same way, did exactly what they should do - don't say a word about it. Once whoever he's talking about is gone tho, who cares? He didn't say anything we didn't already know.

I think people are missing the biggest point here, which is how great the current culture is. He didn't name names. He didn't single any particular player out. He used an analogy to show the contrast between last year and this year. I personally don't see an issue with it. I do see where people are having a problem with it but I'd have more of an issue if he was talking about someone who was currently with the organization. Personally... Good riddance to last year.
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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#43 » by warrenpeace » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:38 pm

lake_show wrote:I disagree with the "this stuff should stay in the locker room" statments.

None of the people he was talking about are still on the team. And, since this is the first time we hear anything like this from him proves that last year he, and any of the other players who felt the same way, did exactly what they should do - don't say a word about it. Once whoever he's talking about is gone tho, who cares? He didn't say anything we didn't already know.

I think people are missing the biggest point here, which is how great the current culture is. He didn't name names. He didn't single any particular player out. He used an analogy to show the contrast between last year and this year. I personally don't see an issue with it. I do see where people are having a problem with it but I'd have more of an issue if he was talking about someone who was currently with the organization. Personally... Good riddance to last year.
Apparently junior opens his mouth without thinking. He is not good enough of a player to have a voice. He's also not very smart. You never know what the future holds. He did the same thing to Kobe and ended up on the same team, and had to crawl on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness. He should have learned a lesson from that incident.

I see him as a journeymen. Hopefully, he is going to have a long career in the NBA, but I see him getting traded several times in his NBA career. He could end up in a team where Byron Scott is the coach, assistant coach, general manager, assistant GM, VP of player personnel etc. It could be a team with someone who was Byron's coaching staff. Perhaps the obsequious groveling will be easier this time, since he has experience.
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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#44 » by Slava » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:55 pm

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lake_show wrote:I disagree with the "this stuff should stay in the locker room" statments.

None of the people he was talking about are still on the team. And, since this is the first time we hear anything like this from him proves that last year he, and any of the other players who felt the same way, did exactly what they should do - don't say a word about it. Once whoever he's talking about is gone tho, who cares? He didn't say anything we didn't already know.

I think people are missing the biggest point here, which is how great the current culture is. He didn't name names. He didn't single any particular player out. He used an analogy to show the contrast between last year and this year. I personally don't see an issue with it. I do see where people are having a problem with it but I'd have more of an issue if he was talking about someone who was currently with the organization. Personally... Good riddance to last year.
Apparently junior opens his mouth without thinking. He is not good enough of a player to have a voice. He's also not very smart. You never know what the future holds. He did the same thing to Kobe and ended up on the same team, and had to crawl on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness. He should have learned a lesson from that incident.

I see him as a journeymen. Hopefully, he is going to have a long career in the NBA, but I see him getting traded several times in his NBA career. He could end up in a team where Byron Scott is the coach, assistant coach, general manager, assistant GM, VP of player personnel etc. It could be a team with someone who was Byron's coaching staff. Perhaps the obsequious groveling will be easier this time, since he has experience.


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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#45 » by lake_show » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:38 pm

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lake_show wrote:I disagree with the "this stuff should stay in the locker room" statments.

None of the people he was talking about are still on the team. And, since this is the first time we hear anything like this from him proves that last year he, and any of the other players who felt the same way, did exactly what they should do - don't say a word about it. Once whoever he's talking about is gone tho, who cares? He didn't say anything we didn't already know.

I think people are missing the biggest point here, which is how great the current culture is. He didn't name names. He didn't single any particular player out. He used an analogy to show the contrast between last year and this year. I personally don't see an issue with it. I do see where people are having a problem with it but I'd have more of an issue if he was talking about someone who was currently with the organization. Personally... Good riddance to last year.
Apparently junior opens his mouth without thinking. He is not good enough of a player to have a voice. He's also not very smart. You never know what the future holds. He did the same thing to Kobe and ended up on the same team, and had to crawl on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness. He should have learned a lesson from that incident.

I see him as a journeymen. Hopefully, he is going to have a long career in the NBA, but I see him getting traded several times in his NBA career. He could end up in a team where Byron Scott is the coach, assistant coach, general manager, assistant GM, VP of player personnel etc. It could be a team with someone who was Byron's coaching staff. Perhaps the obsequious groveling will be easier this time, since he has experience.


Yeah... I doubt it. But good luck with that.
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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#46 » by ArC_man » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:44 pm

Can't wait for training camp to start so we can stop beating this dead horse.
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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#47 » by warrenpeace » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:49 pm

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lake_show wrote:I disagree with the "this stuff should stay in the locker room" statments.

None of the people he was talking about are still on the team. And, since this is the first time we hear anything like this from him proves that last year he, and any of the other players who felt the same way, did exactly what they should do - don't say a word about it. Once whoever he's talking about is gone tho, who cares? He didn't say anything we didn't already know.

I think people are missing the biggest point here, which is how great the current culture is. He didn't name names. He didn't single any particular player out. He used an analogy to show the contrast between last year and this year. I personally don't see an issue with it. I do see where people are having a problem with it but I'd have more of an issue if he was talking about someone who was currently with the organization. Personally... Good riddance to last year.
Apparently junior opens his mouth without thinking. He is not good enough of a player to have a voice. He's also not very smart. You never know what the future holds. He did the same thing to Kobe and ended up on the same team, and had to crawl on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness. He should have learned a lesson from that incident.

I see him as a journeymen. Hopefully, he is going to have a long career in the NBA, but I see him getting traded several times in his NBA career. He could end up in a team where Byron Scott is the coach, assistant coach, general manager, assistant GM, VP of player personnel etc. It could be a team with someone who was Byron's coaching staff. Perhaps the obsequious groveling will be easier this time, since he has experience.


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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#49 » by Hank7 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:22 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:Eh, it's not like there was anything malicious behind this. Unprofessional is Shaq and Kobe going at it through the media. This just reads like an honest answer to whatever question he was asked -- something athletes get knocked for not doing enough of. If he wanted to rip anybody he could have named names.

Besides, it's not like he's saying anything we didn't already know/assume already. Byron sucked and was totally miscast coaching a bunch of youngsters. Kobe's retirement tour was a sideshow. Nick Young is a horse's ass. On and on. Now after treading water for the past few years we can finally start moving in the right direction again.


+1....I'm a bigger fan of Nance now. It's also good to hear that the new coaching regime is creating an environment that's supportive and not hostile.
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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#50 » by DEEP3CL » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:21 am

Kilroy wrote:Honestly, not thrilled Nance answered that question. It's not the first time he's commented about team mates past present or future, and at some point you have to start wondering if the problems he's seeing in the locker room aren't a little more about him than anyone else...
I'm sure everything is exactly as he says it is/was... I think we all know that... But saying it to the media is a little unprofessional.
Kilroy I get your stance on Nance but this stuff was bound to surface at some point anyway. It didn't take a genius to see what type of atmosphere Byron created. I was all for Scott at first, thinking he was deep rooted in the "Laker way"....yet he morphed into dick head drill sergeant. Attitudes like that will wear out even the most even keel guy, and I doubt that Nance is a guy that looks to constantly bicker about his teammates. The days of guys limiting themselves on what they say are over, better to put it out there themselves rather than let the writer build the narrative their way.
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Re: Larry Nance, Jr. Describes Lakers Culture Last Year 

Post#51 » by Ballerhogger » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:13 am

Its not necessary for him to go out on media and talk about team culture BUT it speaks volumes on how terrible Byron was lol. Along he's moved on and doesn't drag into camp then it should be ok.
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Post#52 » by Westbreezy » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:48 pm

Byron might have been the best thing ever for us just because of how much guys will appreciate good coaching for the rest of their careers. Otherwise they probably would've taken Luke for granted
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