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Post#21 » by Jkam31 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:56 pm

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c3j3h wrote:They can't keep Rudy at this point. He's publicly made comments multiple times now making it very clear that he is unhappy and he wants out.


I don't think it's conclusive he doesn't want to be here, but even if he didn't someone has to give value. He's been rumored on the market since last deadline but especially recently, with no one biting yet. Could be no one wants to give value, and I can't see the Kings dumping even if he didn't want to be here

If Vlade had a deal on the table he liked Gay would be gone. Doesnt seem like the market is demanding Rudy. I think he will be a deadline deal which won't bring in much. At this point we can hope for a prospect with some potential.

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And if we are winning at the deadline than he stays... Regardless Vlade earning more if my trust by not giving him away for nothing.


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Post#22 » by Zaccai » Mon Aug 1, 2016 10:49 pm

The only way I see that happening is an injury comes our big men/
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Post#23 » by LightTheBeam » Tue Aug 2, 2016 12:25 am

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Sheva7 wrote:Did you see his most recent interview? It sounded to me like he is willing to try to make it work here. He made it pretty clear that he would not be a problem if he stays in Sacramento.

I disagree it sounded to me like he's hoping Vlade can get him moved to a winning team.

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Which part of the interview sounded like that? I didn't get that at all.


Either of you guys have a link?
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Post#24 » by Sheva7 » Tue Aug 2, 2016 12:37 am

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City of Trees wrote:I disagree it sounded to me like he's hoping Vlade can get him moved to a winning team.

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Which part of the interview sounded like that? I didn't get that at all.


Either of you guys have a link?

http://www.abc10.com/mb/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/rudy-gay-hosts-youth-camp-battles-frustrations-with-sacramento-kings/283778765
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Post#25 » by codydaze » Tue Aug 2, 2016 4:04 pm

Sheva7 wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
Sheva7 wrote:Which part of the interview sounded like that? I didn't get that at all.


Either of you guys have a link?

http://www.abc10.com/mb/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/rudy-gay-hosts-youth-camp-battles-frustrations-with-sacramento-kings/283778765


He definitely doesn't sound thrilled about Sacramento. Feels like he would prefer out.
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Post#26 » by NYCLaker » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:05 pm

Isn't Skal a better fit next to Boogie or WCS, rather than starting both boogie/wcs.
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Post#27 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:23 pm

I think whoever starts next to Cousins will be about fit, or it should be. It should be a battle for that starting PF spot and my money is on Tolliver at the start of the season. I think it's between Willie and he unless Joerger goes small with Barnes there.

With Gay's future up in the air it's hard to be too sure what the team looks like this upcoming season at SF/PF.
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Post#28 » by Jkam31 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:12 pm

NYCLaker wrote:Isn't Skal a better fit next to Boogie or WCS, rather than starting both boogie/wcs.


I think he will be as he can hit 3s and can be the same type of defender WCS can be


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Post#29 » by c3j3h » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:59 pm

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NYCLaker wrote:Isn't Skal a better fit next to Boogie or WCS, rather than starting both boogie/wcs.


I think he will be as he can hit 3s and can be the same type of defender WCS can be


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Hang on a second there. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.
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Post#30 » by Jkam31 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:25 pm

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NYCLaker wrote:Isn't Skal a better fit next to Boogie or WCS, rather than starting both boogie/wcs.


I think he will be as he can hit 3s and can be the same type of defender WCS can be


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Hang on a second there. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.


Can as in potentially. WCS is a better athletes but Skal still has elite quickness and is a better shot blocker.

Either way if Skal becomes an above average defender which I certain at the least he'd be he's a better fit than WCS. Skald offense would be an upgrade vs WCS and WCS would have a great role as energy big off the bench.


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Post#31 » by old rem » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:09 pm

c3j3h wrote:I don't think Skal is in a position where he will be able to start this year (with the exception being if a tank is initiated and the season is over), but I really hope they keep him with the Kings and not just bury him in Reno. He's probably going to have to spend some time in Reno, but I think he will be much better served by spending time with the Kings and learning from the veterans about how the game really works.

He has a ton of raw talent that he needs to develop and fine tune. Obviously it will be nice for his confidence if he tears up the D-League, but it can also backfire if he struggles. Putting him on the bench and having him battle it out with Boogie/WCS in practice every day will be good for his development long term. I just hope they utilize him properly as a sort of modified Channing Frye-type in his rookie season and let him stick to his strengths.
Here, Kentucky is seen as a "area team" so....I followed Skal a bit.
The kid has tools. He also should have stayed at Kentucky at least another year to actually know what he's doing. There were a LOT of games where he was not a factor. Like Frye? maybe if Frye could not shoot. I LIKE Stein. He's got fundamentals. Skal? Raw.
Exactly WHY SAC wants to go 5 deep at C.....nobody knows. the #4 C , behind the King's main guy....won't get the role to become an asset as a player or a trade chip. Right now... he'd have trouble stealing minutes from Koufos...who'd always been under-rated. As for the big Greek guy? Who knows. VERY strange a team will load up on the ONE slot where they are stacked. :roll:

I have to think the plan is trade someone.
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Re: Skal starting? 

Post#32 » by old rem » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:25 pm

Jkam31 wrote:
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I think he will be as he can hit 3s and can be the same type of defender WCS can be


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Hang on a second there. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.


Can as in potentially. WCS is a better athletes but Skal still has elite quickness and is a better shot blocker.

Either way if Skal becomes an above average defender which I certain at the least he'd be he's a better fit than WCS. Skald offense would be an upgrade vs WCS and WCS would have a great role as energy big off the bench.


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Skal is long, can block some shots. WCS is STRONGER though.. won't be pushed around. Skal.. I can't recall him getting 10 pt vs GOOD teams. Yeah.. you play Nowhere A+T and.. anyone gets some numbers but overall.. he did not much score or rebound. What I saw? I was surprised he declared. WCS... can be pretty solid. Skal? Maybe 2 yr from now. Maybe never.
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Post#33 » by SacKingZZZ » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:47 pm

old rem wrote:
c3j3h wrote:I don't think Skal is in a position where he will be able to start this year (with the exception being if a tank is initiated and the season is over), but I really hope they keep him with the Kings and not just bury him in Reno. He's probably going to have to spend some time in Reno, but I think he will be much better served by spending time with the Kings and learning from the veterans about how the game really works.

He has a ton of raw talent that he needs to develop and fine tune. Obviously it will be nice for his confidence if he tears up the D-League, but it can also backfire if he struggles. Putting him on the bench and having him battle it out with Boogie/WCS in practice every day will be good for his development long term. I just hope they utilize him properly as a sort of modified Channing Frye-type in his rookie season and let him stick to his strengths.
Here, Kentucky is seen as a "area team" so....I followed Skal a bit.
The kid has tools. He also should have stayed at Kentucky at least another year to actually know what he's doing. There were a LOT of games where he was not a factor. Like Frye? maybe if Frye could not shoot. I LIKE Stein. He's got fundamentals. Skal? Raw.
Exactly WHY SAC wants to go 5 deep at C.....nobody knows. the #4 C , behind the King's main guy....won't get the role to become an asset as a player or a trade chip. Right now... he'd have trouble stealing minutes from Koufos...who'd always been under-rated. As for the big Greek guy? Who knows. VERY strange a team will load up on the ONE slot where they are stacked. :roll:

I have to think the plan is trade someone
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Joerger already said the goal isn't to keep a million guys at 4/5 long term. Skal and Papagiannis are firmly filed under: "PROSPECT". If Cuz bails you have two young big men to develop.
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Post#34 » by SacKingZZZ » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:50 pm

old rem wrote:
Jkam31 wrote:
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Hang on a second there. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.


Can as in potentially. WCS is a better athletes but Skal still has elite quickness and is a better shot blocker.

Either way if Skal becomes an above average defender which I certain at the least he'd be he's a better fit than WCS. Skald offense would be an upgrade vs WCS and WCS would have a great role as energy big off the bench.


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Skal is long, can block some shots. WCS is STRONGER though.. won't be pushed around. Skal.. I can't recall him getting 10 pt vs GOOD teams. Yeah.. you play Nowhere A+T and.. anyone gets some numbers but overall.. he did not much score or rebound. What I saw? I was surprised he declared. WCS... can be pretty solid. Skal? Maybe 2 yr from now. Maybe never.


I'm not sure Kentucky was a good fit for Skal. He didn't produce but it's not like he was treated as a first option either. He was basically a replacement for Cauley-Stein and you can't show a ton in a role like that. In summer league he got a chance to be the "man" for stretches and there is definitely some promise there so it's up to him to fill in the gaps. Right now the word is that he's already in Sacramento working his butt off so that's a good sign.

Papagiannis is putting in work too.
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Post#35 » by Gilles » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:34 am

Skal is just too weak/small to bang inside even in college. And Cal was using him there exclusively. What you hope for is a rich man's Frye: stretch 4 with more faceup game and defense. Having written that, I realized, what you're hoping for is Ibaka w/more scoring ability and that's obviously a major player. So a weaker version would be a great return for #29.
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Post#36 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:24 pm

I know summer league isn't the end all but Skal didn't look too weak to me going up against bigger, more experienced players. Yes, he will be out muscled every night but as a PF it might not hurt him too much. Best case scenario Skal comes into camp and just blows the competition out of the water despite his relatively underdeveloped physical stature. Skill wise he's the ideal fit next to Cousins moving forward if he can put it all together.

I've been watching a lot of Skal vids lately and I can see why he was brought to Kentucky. He looks a lot like Anthony Davis when the reins were taken off, but his role ended up being that of a replacement Willie Cauley-Stein in the end and Willie had the advantage of a few years to develop there first.

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