Where is Nerlens?

[Foshan]

its good to see some evidence of him working out. Only way he is going to put weight on is eating like 15 times a day.

[spikeslovechild]

its good to see some evidence of him working out. Only way he is going to put weight on is eating like 15 times a day.

If he was actually working out on a regular basis the evidence would be on his body. Forget weight are you seeing any added muscle mass? I'm not.

[spikeslovechild]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Colangelo-denies-aggressively-shopping-bigs-Noel-Okafor-.html

Pretty interesting quote and a point I've often made.

“But I never felt compelled that we have to do something, because it will work itself out over the course of time,” he said. “Some of it will work itself out with contract negotiations and free agency. There’s different things that are staggered in terms of time line.”

“First up, Nerlens Noel. Second up, Joel Embiid. Third would be Okafor, in terms of contract staggering. So there’s some of that that’s in play.”

[76ciology]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Colangelo-denies-aggressively-shopping-bigs-Noel-Okafor-.html

Pretty interesting quote and a point I've often made.

“But I never felt compelled that we have to do something, because it will work itself out over the course of time,” he said. “Some of it will work itself out with contract negotiations and free agency. There’s different things that are staggered in terms of time line.”

“First up, Nerlens Noel. Second up, Joel Embiid. Third would be Okafor, in terms of contract staggering. So there’s some of that that’s in play.”

From the entire statement my understanding is..
Option 1: do a trade if offered a good deal
Option 2: handle their contracts in that order ("nerlens up..")
Last option: trading dollar for 50 cents just to clear log jam.

[Kolkmania]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Colangelo-denies-aggressively-shopping-bigs-Noel-Okafor-.html

Pretty interesting quote and a point I've often made.

“But I never felt compelled that we have to do something, because it will work itself out over the course of time,” he said. “Some of it will work itself out with contract negotiations and free agency. There’s different things that are staggered in terms of time line.”

“First up, Nerlens Noel. Second up, Joel Embiid. Third would be Okafor, in terms of contract staggering. So there’s some of that that’s in play.”

From the entire statement my understanding is..
Option 1: do a trade if offered a good deal
Option 2: handle their contracts in that order ("nerlens up..")
Last option: trading dollar for 50 cents just to clear log jam.

My understanding from that quote is a fourth option: Let Nerlens Noel walk away in free agency. That would be a HUGE mistake.

[Andrew McCeltic]

C's fan, not trying to troll, no trade offers to make. But my guess is they think Jah might still be moldable into a 4- his face the basket game is amazing, if he can add a little bit of a shot, and drill in defensive effort/agility, it's not an unreasonable bet. And he's health insurance. Simmons may have the flexibility to play the 3, the 4, and the 1. And Nerlens is the odd man out, but they're not getting trade offers they like, are going to wait and see if other teams' fortunes change, either with injuries or internal dynamics. If they don't, he's either a QO or an extension, to get his money and be traded later. Clearly in a holding pattern now, though. Other angle is to trade him for a future pick, or try to get another team's sleeper reserve.

[spikeslovechild]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Colangelo-denies-aggressively-shopping-bigs-Noel-Okafor-.html

Pretty interesting quote and a point I've often made.

From the entire statement my understanding is..
Option 1: do a trade if offered a good deal
Option 2: handle their contracts in that order ("nerlens up..")
Last option: trading dollar for 50 cents just to clear log jam.

My understanding from that quote is a fourth option: Let Nerlens Noel walk away in free agency. That would be a HUGE mistake.

Thats the way I read it to. It will solve itself when he is not given an extension.

[rzzzzz]

still don't know how well Noel, Okafor will perform with this year's new crop of talent. assume both will have an easier time flashing their skills. we are now witnessing the repercussions of the Middleton injury. players do get hurt unexpectedly. i'm mainly looking towards the trade deadline. just in the East you got the Cavs looking to repeat, Toronto not looking to slip after reaching the conference finals, and Boston still looking to win a playoff series while having much stronger ambitions. all three of those teams could use a top rim protector. and two of them are going to end up not being talented enough this year.

[Ericb5]

still don't know how well Noel, Okafor will perform with this year's new crop of talent. assume both will have an easier time flashing their skills. we are now witnessing the repercussions of the Middleton injury. players do get hurt unexpectedly. i'm mainly looking towards the trade deadline. just in the East you got the Cavs looking to repeat, Toronto not looking to slip after reaching the conference finals, and Boston still looking to win a playoff series while having much stronger ambitions. all three of those teams could use a top rim protector. and two of them are going to end up not being talented enough this year.

Hinkie would probably offer Noel for Middleton today knowing that he was going to be out for 6 months, and I would too. Not sure if the Bucks would, or if BC would though.

[76ciology]

For Okafor, he need not carry much load on D while Noel need not have to have that much offensive load that makes him inefficient, with both playing with Simmons and Embiid.

[LloydFree]

For Okafor, he need not carry much load on D while Noel need not have to have that much offensive load that makes him inefficient, with both playing with Simmons and Embiid.

Neither one will be a starter going forward, so what does it matter?

[76ciology]

For Okafor, he need not carry much load on D while Noel need not have to have that much offensive load that makes him inefficient, with both playing with Simmons and Embiid.

Neither one will be a starter going forward, so what does it matter?

For the time being that this team is still talent deficient in relative to teams that compete, we probably need to consider them as long term pieces. Specially the fact that there are a lot of uncertainties with our players' upside. Nobody thought a 2nd round player in Draymond Green would be the 2nd best player on that Warriors team.

With that said, it matters for both Simmons/Embiid do cover up for both bigs' deficiencies. Undoubtedly, we added a lot of talent this year and it would make things easier for both Jah&Noel.

[LloydFree]

For Okafor, he need not carry much load on D while Noel need not have to have that much offensive load that makes him inefficient, with both playing with Simmons and Embiid.

Neither one will be a starter going forward, so what does it matter?

For the time being that this team is still talent deficient in relative to teams that compete, we probably need to consider them as long term pieces. Specially the fact that there are a lot of uncertainties with our players' upside. Nobody thought a 2nd round player in Draymond Green would be the 2nd best player on that Warriors team.

With that said, it matters for both Simmons/Embiid do cover up for both bigs' deficiencies. Undoubtedly, we added a lot of talent this year and it would make things easier for both Jah&Noel.

There is no longer any reason to worry about covering up for Okafors defense. He isn't ever going to be a starter on this team again unless Embiid gets re-injury and Noel is traded.

[76ciology]

Neither one will be a starter going forward, so what does it matter?

For the time being that this team is still talent deficient in relative to teams that compete, we probably need to consider them as long term pieces. Specially the fact that there are a lot of uncertainties with our players' upside. Nobody thought a 2nd round player in Draymond Green would be the 2nd best player on that Warriors team.

With that said, it matters for both Simmons/Embiid do cover up for both bigs' deficiencies. Undoubtedly, we added a lot of talent this year and it would make things easier for both Jah&Noel.

There is no longer any reason to worry about covering up for Okafors defense. He isn't ever going to be a starter on this team again unless Embiid gets re-injury and Noel is traded.

Like I said.. there are still a lot of uncertainty with our team. Maybe Simmons ends up as a 6'10 rondo or Embiid is just a 16-20mpg player due to health restrictions. I wouldn't assume Jah's a finished product for a lot of players (I'd assume most players) improved after their rookie season. At one point, nobody thought LMA will be PTB's franchise player up until Oden and Roy broke down. And truth be told, there is a solid chance Jah turns out to be a good defensive player (just like most scoring bigs who struggled early on D) or atleast improved on defense based on his rim protection numbers and amount of DFGA per game.

Better be cup half full when projecting our players because these are young talented guys. It's not like we are expecting Andrea Bargnani to improve his defense.

If you want to evaluate Jah's future based on his rookie season playing with a heavily toxic team and offcourt issues while just disregard the good side of his weakness/defense and the upside of his offense, then let's just agree to disagree for this will just be a never ending debate.

[Sixerscan]

"Better be cup half full projecting our players"

"Maybe Simmons ends up a 6'10" rondo or Embiid is just 16-20 mpg"

Brown said okafor and Noel are centers. There's another center on the team that everyone agrees is a better prospect than both of them . For good measure there is also a player than Brown says is a power forward that everyone agrees is also a better prospect than both of them. Therefore Okafor and Noel project as backups on this team.

[Ericb5]

"Better be cup half full projecting our players"

"Maybe Simmons ends up a 6'10" rondo or Embiid is just 16-20 mpg"

Brown said okafor and Noel are centers. There's another center on the team that everyone agrees is a better prospect than both of them . For good measure there is also a player than Brown says is a power forward that everyone agrees is also a better prospect than both of them. Therefore Okafor and Noel project as backups on this team.

Where did he say those things? If he really said that then there HAS to be a trade soon because he isn't even going to try playing either of them at the 4.

[rzzzzz]

Brown also said he would like to try out Simmons at pg. and that Simmons and Saric were "positionless". he also came out of a hugely successful organization that didn't get that hung up about positions and won a championship playing twin towers.

[Sixerscan]

It was last week. He said Simmons is a 4 defensively and would probably only play 3 if Dario was the one playing the 4 for the most part. Two centers would be rare unless they were playing someone like Memphis.

Believe what you want guys Brett has been pretty consistent about this.

[Ericb5]

It was last week. He said Simmons is a 4 defensively and would probably only play 3 if Dario was the one playing the 4 for the most part. Two centers would be rare unless they were playing someone like Memphis.

Believe what you want guys Brett has been pretty consistent about this.

I know he said that about Simmons playing the 4. It was the other things that you said that I want to read/hear. I haven't heard him say that Okafor is only a 5. Where did he say that?

Also, where did he say that Embiid is a better prospect than the other guys, and Simmons is better than Saric?

[LloydFree]

It was last week. He said Simmons is a 4 defensively and would probably only play 3 if Dario was the one playing the 4 for the most part. Two centers would be rare unless they were playing someone like Memphis.

Believe what you want guys Brett has been pretty consistent about this.

I know he said that about Simmons playing the 4. It was the other things that you said that I want to read/hear. I haven't heard him say that Okafor is only a 5. Where did he say that?

Also, where did he say that Embiid is a better prospect than the other guys, and Simmons is better than Saric?

He never said Okafor "isn't a 4-man". Happy? So as they said in Dumb and Dumber, "...so you're saying there is a chance". Fact is, he barely mentioned Okafor at all in his plans going forward.