Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 4

[lilfishi22]

Listen to Al Iaquinta's interview on MMAHour yesterday. If you can look past his past polarizing actions, he actually makes some great points. Lifelong dream of his to fight at MSG, but he won't do it because they don't pay him enough (I think he mentioned during the interview he makes 26k).

He's a realtor now and can't afford to focus on a fight camp for that type of money. Also, said he used to get monthly salaries to live off of by his sponsors but they all left him when reebok came in. Basically says he's prepared to retire if they don't re-negotiate. Says Joe Silva threatened to cut him, called him names, etc. when they called to re-negotiate. Also says he talks to many others fighters who feel the same way but don't have the balls to take a stand against the ufc (this is a similar theme as when that union guy was on last month or whenever).

I'm just spewing what I can remember but I recommend listening.

What's infuriating is that generally the only people who can speak up are those who either already has made a name for themselves or have other solid opportunities elsewhere either in fighting or outside fighting. But this group is a very small minority. Schaub decided he didn't need to fight under the Reebok banner because he had things going on outside with the podcast and what not. Rockhold has his whole modelling thing going for him apparently. Rory had competing offers from Bellator.

Dana and Joe Silva know there is talent out there losing money fighting in regional circuits and willing to break even just to fight in the UFC. If you're a good fighter but you don't exactly have a lot of drawing power or personality, you just don't have a ton of negotiating power. When the UFC banned all sponsors except for the official UFC sponsors (Reebok, Monster, Harley Davidson etc), that took the last bit of control of earning potential from the fighters which as Bernman mentioned, is completely tyrannical and if the fighters banded together for more power collectively, this would've gone through a negotiation phase or through the courts before an exclusive sponsorship deal would've been put in place.

[REDDzone]

I have no idea how much was legit since I'm not a lawyer, but the lawyer dude who founded the fighters union kept saying dyring his interview with Ariel that there is so much stuff that the ufc puts in their contracts that shouldn't be in there (e.g., stuff that isn't enforceable).

[Jasen777]

I have no idea how much was legit since I'm not a lawyer, but the lawyer dude who founded the fighters union kept saying dyring his interview with Ariel that there is so much stuff that the ufc puts in their contracts that shouldn't be in there (e.g., stuff that isn't enforceable).

Is it in their that they can change the terms (for sponsorship, for instance) at any time and the fighters are still bound to the contracts? Because that does not seem particularly legal.

[REDDzone]

I intentionally didn't say illegal because I don't recall him using that wording, but that's what I was thinking too. IDK why, but I remember thinking at the time it may have been the whole "we own your likeness for life" thing which seems ridiculous lol.

[Jasen777]

Listen to Al Iaquinta's interview on MMAHour yesterday. If you can look past his past polarizing actions, he actually makes some great points. Lifelong dream of his to fight at MSG, but he won't do it because they don't pay him enough (I think he mentioned during the interview he makes 26k).

He was sick and didn't go to a promotional event, the got in an argument about it and the UFC revoke his win bonus for 3 fight? That's crazy.

[Jasen777]

Neil Seery will hang up his gloves after UFC Belfast

“It’s getting hard to justify going off the radar all the time to prepare for these fights,” he said. “We’ve got a young family and I have to spend all my time running around to different training sessions and keeping my job on top of that. It’s not like I’m getting hundreds of thousands here.

“UFC is about being recognised as one of the elite fighters in the world. At the end of the day, that recognition is what it is all about. The vast majority of fighters walk away from the sport with no money. I’m very proud that I got to fight in the UFC.

[REDDzone]

War Roy!

"I think there is definitely a problem," Nelson continued. "I think the rules should be pretty simple--just stay the hell out of it. It's a fight. If a guy can't get off his back, then he sucks. He shouldn't be in MMA--he should be in boxing."

The article is worth reading. Basically talks about how McCarthy was separating him and Derrick Lewish in their fight. He basically told John that by standing them up you are rewarding the guy on the bottom for holding/stalling.

http://www.flocombat.com/article/46461-roy-nelson-to-mma-referees-just-stay-the-hell-out-of-the-fight

[Headliner]

Nate Diaz saying CM didn't knock him done with punches, he was baiting him...lol he's gotten into Reem levels delusion now. Nates eyes are crossed two of the times lol.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/9/19/12967774/schaub-nate-diaz-intentionally-fell-ground-dupe-conor-mcgregor-ufc-202

It's cool to watch the fight slowed down, for all the people who hate on guys for Point fighting, it's pretty clear that the Nate does it worse than anyone. I can't count the number of slaps he throws in that videos. Those aren't there for damage, it's for the illusion of a strike without the exertion of energy. To fool a judge into seeing a landed strike when there was zero damage inflicted in the process. Basically, make him look busy when he's really doing nothing.
That's not to say he doesn't throw down at other points, of course he does, but just because he has a name for his slap, doesn't mean it's any less ridiculous

That's why I scored round 2 for Diaz. There's a scale, from Werdum falling to Overeem's strikes to guys being temporarily unconsciousness. I think Diaz falling was closer to Werdum. Is there evidence that he had crossed eyes?

The link above has the video, just skip to the slow mo CM vs Diaz highlights...Conor knocked his eyes crossed twice lol. Nate is just pulling that Diaz crap of excuse after excuse.

[NZB2323]

Nate Diaz saying CM didn't knock him done with punches, he was baiting him...lol he's gotten into Reem levels delusion now. Nates eyes are crossed two of the times lol.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/9/19/12967774/schaub-nate-diaz-intentionally-fell-ground-dupe-conor-mcgregor-ufc-202

It's cool to watch the fight slowed down, for all the people who hate on guys for Point fighting, it's pretty clear that the Nate does it worse than anyone. I can't count the number of slaps he throws in that videos. Those aren't there for damage, it's for the illusion of a strike without the exertion of energy. To fool a judge into seeing a landed strike when there was zero damage inflicted in the process. Basically, make him look busy when he's really doing nothing.
That's not to say he doesn't throw down at other points, of course he does, but just because he has a name for his slap, doesn't mean it's any less ridiculous

That's why I scored round 2 for Diaz. There's a scale, from Werdum falling to Overeem's strikes to guys being temporarily unconsciousness. I think Diaz falling was closer to Werdum. Is there evidence that he had crossed eyes?

The link above has the video, just skip to the slow mo CM vs Diaz highlights...Conor knocked his eyes crossed twice lol. Nate is just pulling that Diaz crap of excuse after excuse.

Maybe it's the quality of my computer, but I don't see Diaz with crossed eyes. Is anyone else seeing this?

[Headliner]

Look at these times at the video, Diaz's brain is fuzzed and his eyes and face are twitching from sensory overload.


1:52 grabs the cage, obvious quick brain flicker by facial expressions.
2:11 when he buckles again to his knees and grabs the fence to try and stop from falling.

Trying to say Diaz was in a good frame of mind during those two blows, is so rediculous it's laughable, and I'm a Diaz fan lol.

[NZB2323]

Look at these times at the video, Diaz's brain is fuzzed and his eyes and face are twitching from sensory overload.


1:52 grabs the cage, obvious quick brain flicker by facial expressions.
2:11 when he buckles again to his knees and grabs the fence to try and stop from falling.

Trying to say Diaz was in a good frame of mind during those two blows, is so rediculous it's laughable, and I'm a Diaz fan lol.

At 1:52 his fingers never grab the cage. He just puts his hand against it, as if to help break his fall, and during that fall he never has both eyes open so I don't see how you could conclude that he has crossed eyes then.

At 2:11 you can't see both of his eyes from that camera angel so I don't know how you could conclude that he has crossed eyes. Also, he places his hand against the pylon, not the fence, while going down, and I'm not sure how that proves that he was rocked. I frequently put my hands on things before sitting down, like chairs or the floor.

[Headliner]

Do you think he was baiting him and not actually knocked down?
I didn't literally mean his eyes crossed, it was a figure of speech, I meant he was obviously rocked senseless for a short time.

There's zero chance he was baiting and not actually rocked in either of those shots.

[Jasen777]

Photo: (Esther Lin, Invicta FC)

[NZB2323]

Do you think he was baiting him and not actually knocked down?
I didn't literally mean his eyes crossed, it was a figure of speech, I meant he was obviously rocked senseless for a short time.

There's zero chance he was baiting and not actually rocked in either of those shots.

I think there are different degrees of baiting and different degrees of being rocked. I don't think Diaz was baiting the way Werdum was against Overeem, but I also don't think he was rocked the way Hendo and Shogun were when they fought each other. I don't think Diaz was ever unconscious during the fight and I think he had the strategy of pulling guard after a big hit in order to bait CM.

[NO-KG-AI]

When have the Diaz brothers ever baited anyone to the ground as opposed to just trying to stand and bang?

This is ridiculous. He got cracked when he was off balance or mid throw and got dropped.


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[NZB2323]

When have the Diaz brothers ever baited anyone to the ground as opposed to just trying to stand and bang?

This is ridiculous. He got cracked when he was off balance or mid throw and got dropped.


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So there's a difference between getting cracked and falling down half unconscious, and being hit while off balance and being in guard as soon as you hit the floor. Considering that Diaz finished Conor by submission last time, I don't think it's ridiculous that Diaz wanted the fight on the ground. I also remember Nate going for a few take down attempts.

[NO-KG-AI]

He might not have been out when he fell, but he definitely didn't fall on purpose to bait Conor.


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[Jasen777]

That'd do it.

While Henderson regrets never getting the chance to tangle with Jones, he's also realistic about where he stands now. Let's put it this way: There's a reason he's fighting middleweights now and not light heavyweights.

"Over the years, it's gotten harder to keep my body in the shape I need to," Henderson said. "That's why I dropped back down to middleweight, because it's harder to go against the heavier guys. Having DC's fat ass on top of me really didn't help. When he was on top of me, I decided to go down to another weight class."

Of course not having TRT probably makes it harder to "keep your body in shape".

[cowboyronnie]

That'd do it.

While Henderson regrets never getting the chance to tangle with Jones, he's also realistic about where he stands now. Let's put it this way: There's a reason he's fighting middleweights now and not light heavyweights.

"Over the years, it's gotten harder to keep my body in the shape I need to," Henderson said. "That's why I dropped back down to middleweight, because it's harder to go against the heavier guys. Having DC's fat ass on top of me really didn't help. When he was on top of me, I decided to go down to another weight class."

Of course not having TRT probably makes it harder to "keep your body in shape".

On top of which, he used to say the exact opposite. While on TRT, he would talk about not wanting to bother with MW anymore. Getting lean was difficult, not getting beefed.

[Jasen777]

Jose Aldo requests his release from the UFC