Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 6

[Ruzious]

It’s the Delly and Tely show (copywrite). Nobody tries harder than Delly. Effort ain’t the issue with him. It’s the speed and quickness of the better point guards in the NBA. He doesn’t have it – plain and simple. By his great effort and good skills, he can be a solid BACKUP point guard. Playing starters minutes, he’s going to wear himself out, because he plays so hard. Milwaukee still doesn’t have a legit starting PG – after paying 38 mil on for Delly. Paying backups 10 mil a year – like him and Plumlee – is not a good idea – even in this ridiculous cap era, because it’s still too big a percentage of the cap.

Milwaukee was the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last season. Telle should change that a lot more than Delly will. Delly is strictly an open shooter with zero ability to create his own shot. If you get near him, he won't take the shot; Tely will.

Parker might become the biggest problem on the team. He has got to become a 3 point shooter. But even if he does, his defense is mind-bogglingly bad – whether he’s a 3 or a 4. Supposedly he’s lost some weight, and they think he can play the 3, but he’s a tweener in the bad way. The majority of Bucks fans see him as 1b with Giannis as the foundation. That’s supposedly a reason they signed Giannis to 4 years – so they’d have the option to sign Parker for 5 – which seems crazy to me. Giannis is a foundation guy. Parker is not. Losing Middleton for the year might be a good thing, because they could use more ping pong balls to get a top-notch guard.

[Ruzious]

So, with 75 mil plus left on his contract, does Miami buy out Bosh? Use the stretch provision?

[pcbothwel]

They will get his injury exception after this year and go into Next Summer with 35M in cap space (Assuming Waiters opts out). Ellington is non Guaranteed for 6M and McRoberts is a 6M expiring, so they could have about 47M in cap space. Ibaka, Griffin, Millsap, Hayward, and Gallinari are all interesting

[payitforward]

...I think the Teletovic acquisition made sense. He's roughly the same player that Ryan Anderson is, and Anderson signed for 4/80. So 3/31.5 is a bargain, relatively speaking. )

...Teletovic posted a nice TS% last year, it's true, but when a guy is on the floor, you get everything he does, and he is so incredibly awful at so many other things....

There's a premium on LEGITAMATE 3 point shooters, because they open up the floor for their teammates. That's why Anderson got paid a TON. And given what Anderson got, Teletubby was a value purchase.

As a % of what Anderson got paid, you are probably right that Tell-it-to-Vic's salary is defensible. But I don't think Anderson is worth anything like what he got paid! So...

But, hey, we'll see.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It’s the Delly and Tely show (copywrite). Nobody tries harder than Delly. Effort ain’t the issue with him. It’s the speed and quickness of the better point guards in the NBA. He doesn’t have it – plain and simple. By his great effort and good skills, he can be a solid BACKUP point guard. Playing starters minutes, he’s going to wear himself out, because he plays so hard. Milwaukee still doesn’t have a legit starting PG – after paying 38 mil on for Delly. Paying backups 10 mil a year – like him and Plumlee – is not a good idea – even in this ridiculous cap era, because it’s still too big a percentage of the cap.

Milwaukee was the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last season. Telle should change that a lot more than Delly will. Delly is strictly an open shooter with zero ability to create his own shot. If you get near him, he won't take the shot; Tely will.

Parker might become the biggest problem on the team. He has got to become a 3 point shooter. But even if he does, his defense is mind-bogglingly bad – whether he’s a 3 or a 4. Supposedly he’s lost some weight, and they think he can play the 3, but he’s a tweener in the bad way. The majority of Bucks fans see him as 1b with Giannis as the foundation. That’s supposedly a reason they signed Giannis to 4 years – so they’d have the option to sign Parker for 5 – which seems crazy to me. Giannis is a foundation guy. Parker is not. Losing Middleton for the year might be a good thing, because they could use more ping pong balls to get a top-notch guard.

I'm calling stereotype police. White players are generally the ones who get the "try harder" label.

I'm hoping (another non-athletic player) Trey Burke can try hard.

[Ruzious]

CCJ, when there's an article like this about Trey Burke, let me know.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2159672/matthew-dellavedova-update-admitted-to-cleveland-clinic-hospital-for-further-treatment/

If there's anyone of any color in the NBA that tries harder than Delly, let me know.

[Dat2U]

It’s the Delly and Tely show (copywrite). Nobody tries harder than Delly. Effort ain’t the issue with him. It’s the speed and quickness of the better point guards in the NBA. He doesn’t have it – plain and simple. By his great effort and good skills, he can be a solid BACKUP point guard. Playing starters minutes, he’s going to wear himself out, because he plays so hard. Milwaukee still doesn’t have a legit starting PG – after paying 38 mil on for Delly. Paying backups 10 mil a year – like him and Plumlee – is not a good idea – even in this ridiculous cap era, because it’s still too big a percentage of the cap.

Milwaukee was the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last season. Telle should change that a lot more than Delly will. Delly is strictly an open shooter with zero ability to create his own shot. If you get near him, he won't take the shot; Tely will.

Parker might become the biggest problem on the team. He has got to become a 3 point shooter. But even if he does, his defense is mind-bogglingly bad – whether he’s a 3 or a 4. Supposedly he’s lost some weight, and they think he can play the 3, but he’s a tweener in the bad way. The majority of Bucks fans see him as 1b with Giannis as the foundation. That’s supposedly a reason they signed Giannis to 4 years – so they’d have the option to sign Parker for 5 – which seems crazy to me. Giannis is a foundation guy. Parker is not. Losing Middleton for the year might be a good thing, because they could use more ping pong balls to get a top-notch guard.

I'm calling stereotype police. White players are generally the ones who get the "try harder" label.

I'm hoping (another non-athletic player) Trey Burke can try hard.

I think it's fairly applied here. He's got minimal athletic talent. It's obvious watching him on the court he's busting his a** nonstop.

I wouldn't put Burke in that category. Russell Westbrook belongs in that category but he's also a much better athlete. Tony Allen too. Bruce Bowen was a similarly limited athlete like Delly who made the most of what he had.

[Ruzious]

CCJ, if you ever catch me calling Meyers Leonard a crafty hustling smart player, then you can imply whatever you want about me. Until then, not so much. Btw, I'm assuming you were at least half-kidding. Right?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

CCJ, if you ever catch me calling Meyers Leonard a crafty hustling smart player, then you can imply whatever you want about me. Until then, not so much. Btw, I'm assuming you were at least half-kidding. Right?

Man, you should know me by now. I didn't even attribute anything to your statement other than my first impression.

Delly is somewhat like Morris Almond, only he learned to play with guile to make up for the stiffness/lack of athleticism. YES, I guess the guy is smart and hustles. But to me, Mo Almond could have made it in the league if he played a bit dirty.

Like Delly.

Crafty for sure, Ruz. No offense intended.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It’s the Delly and Tely show (copywrite). Nobody tries harder than Delly. Effort ain’t the issue with him. It’s the speed and quickness of the better point guards in the NBA. He doesn’t have it – plain and simple. By his great effort and good skills, he can be a solid BACKUP point guard. Playing starters minutes, he’s going to wear himself out, because he plays so hard. Milwaukee still doesn’t have a legit starting PG – after paying 38 mil on for Delly. Paying backups 10 mil a year – like him and Plumlee – is not a good idea – even in this ridiculous cap era, because it’s still too big a percentage of the cap.

Milwaukee was the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last season. Telle should change that a lot more than Delly will. Delly is strictly an open shooter with zero ability to create his own shot. If you get near him, he won't take the shot; Tely will.

Parker might become the biggest problem on the team. He has got to become a 3 point shooter. But even if he does, his defense is mind-bogglingly bad – whether he’s a 3 or a 4. Supposedly he’s lost some weight, and they think he can play the 3, but he’s a tweener in the bad way. The majority of Bucks fans see him as 1b with Giannis as the foundation. That’s supposedly a reason they signed Giannis to 4 years – so they’d have the option to sign Parker for 5 – which seems crazy to me. Giannis is a foundation guy. Parker is not. Losing Middleton for the year might be a good thing, because they could use more ping pong balls to get a top-notch guard.

I'm calling stereotype police. White players are generally the ones who get the "try harder" label.

I'm hoping (another non-athletic player) Trey Burke can try hard.

I think it's fairly applied here. He's got minimal athletic talent. It's obvious watching him on the court he's busting his a** nonstop.

I wouldn't put Burke in that category. Russell Westbrook belongs in that category but he's also a much better athlete. Tony Allen too. Bruce Bowen was a similarly limited athlete like Delly who made the most of what he had.

Delly f's with minds.

He plays uber aggressively. He gets in guys' personal space. Dude's talent is he is a knock down shooter. His temperament might reflect his nationality/route to the league.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Dellavedova

His father, Mark, grew up playing Australian rules football and his mother, Leanne, played netball. Dellavedova began playing basketball at the age of four. He attended Maryborough Regional College and played junior basketball for the Maryborough Blazers and played in under-12 and under-14 Bendigo Braves squads.[2][3] Along with basketball, he played Australian rules football at the junior level. He played the position of wing and kicked a total of 32 goals in 26 games between 1999 and 2001,[4] but gave the game away to focus solely on basketball.[5] Despite giving the game away at a young age, he is an avid supporter of the Collingwood Magpies in the Australian Football League.

To say the guy has no talent to me plays into a stereotype commonly associated solely with non-black NBA players.

His parents were both athletic. HE is athletic. Maybe not a high jumper but the dude is very physical and plays with a high motor. He's a shooter. Yes, he's a gamer, too. He plays with minds out there.

[AFM]

But massa da blacks run fasta an jumps higha! Da whites only shoot da three pointas!

[Ruzious]

CCJ, if you ever catch me calling Meyers Leonard a crafty hustling smart player, then you can imply whatever you want about me. Until then, not so much. Btw, I'm assuming you were at least half-kidding. Right?

Man, you should know me by now. I didn't even attribute anything to your statement other than my first impression.

Delly is somewhat like Morris Almond, only he learned to play with guile to make up for the stiffness/lack of athleticism. YES, I guess the guy is smart and hustles. But to me, Mo Almond could have made it in the league if he played a bit dirty.

Like Delly.

Crafty for sure, Ruz. No offense intended.

What do you think your first impression implied about me? I'm the one who should be saying You should know me by now. I agree that Delly plays overly aggressive, but he IS below average physically/athletically for an NBA player, and there's nothing in the world that's wrong with saying that. Almond was too, if it makes you feel better.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

How do you feel about Meyers Leonard?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

But massa da blacks run fasta an jumps higha! Da whites only shoot da three pointas!

Name a black, NBA role player who is often referred to as smart and who hustles but has very limited athleticism.

(Wondering when this thread gets testy and locked. )

[AFM]

But massa da blacks run fasta an jumps higha! Da whites only shoot da three pointas!

Name a black, NBA role player who is often referred to as smart and who hustles but has very limited athleticism.

(Wondering when this thread gets testy and locked. )

Garret Temple? Although he's like, Tiger Woods/Obama black.

Drew Gooden? Guy can barely jump.

[payitforward]

White players are not good athletes. Especially, players with long Italian names are known to be athletically deficient. This is commonly accepted and explains why, for example, the Lopez twins changed their names from Lottopessolino. The long names were slowing them down. Mirza Teletovic is rumored to be considering a name change to "More TV."

It is also well worth noting that the darker a black player is the better athlete he is. Indeed, it is said that some black players are so dark, that they absorb all nearby light and their moves can't be seen at all (although for obvious reasons, this cannot be confirmed). They are said to be called "quick" instead of "ebony" in order to avoid the charge of racism. Indeed their absolute darkness is often obfuscated by calling them lightning quick -- a contradiction so obvious that anyone can see straight through it. By the way, their invisibility may explain why these players never get any calls.

As well, everyone is aware that black players who are actually from Africa are not as young as they claim to be.

Less well known, however, is the fact that many white players seek out skin-darkening procedures in the hope of "passing" (i.e. being thought to be black). Some light-skinned black players have even been rumored to receive this treatment. This may be because they are bothered by the internals of the phrase itself: "light-skinned black."

White players are often called "crafty" in addition to being described as trying hard. Black players, on the other hand, are not allowed to be called "crafty," as this term has been trademarked by White Players of America. Instead, they are to be called "slippery."

Chinese players are often described as "unfair trading partners," although commentators have not yet agreed what this phrase implies about their play. A crack team of linguists (on crack) are attempting to crack this code as I write these very words -- actually this one, this word... now!

In a final note, players of any color who are married (to women, that is) but also rumored to be gay -- and are known to play well both on offense and defense -- are said to "go both ways."

[montestewart]

But massa da blacks run fasta an jumps higha! Da whites only shoot da three pointas!

Name a black, NBA role player who is often referred to as smart and who hustles but has very limited athleticism.

(Wondering when this thread gets testy and locked. )

You might be right about the "often referred to" part. There have been quite a few black NBA players that seem to get by more on grit and savvy than on athleticism, but they often aren't discussed in those terms. Wes Unseld is my favorite player ever, and I've heard people wonder how he got it done or why he managed to play as long as he did considering his lack of athleticism, as if there was no explanation other than athleticism.

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[AFM]

White players are not good athletes. Especially, players with long Italian names are known to be athletically deficient. This is commonly accepted and explains why, for example, the Lopez twins changed their names from Lottopessolino. The long names were slowing them down. Mirza Teletovic is rumored to be considering a name change to "More TV."

It is also well worth noting that the darker a black player is the better athlete he is. Indeed, it is said that some black players are so dark, that they absorb all nearby light and their moves can't be seen at all (although for obvious reasons, this cannot be confirmed). They are said to be called "quick" instead of "ebony" in order to avoid the charge of racism. Indeed their absolute darkness is often obfuscated by calling them lightning quick -- a contradiction so obvious that anyone can see straight through it. By the way, their invisibility may explain why these players never get any calls.

As well, everyone is aware that black players who are actually from Africa are not as young as they claim to be.

Less well known, however, is the fact that many white players seek out skin-darkening procedures in the hope of "passing" (i.e. being thought to be black). Some light-skinned black players have even been rumored to receive this treatment. This may be because they are bothered by the internals of the phrase itself: "light-skinned black."

White players are often called "crafty" in addition to being described as trying hard. Black players, on the other hand, are not allowed to be called "crafty," as this term has been trademarked by White Players of America. Instead, they are to be called "slippery."

Chinese players are often described as "unfair trading partners," although commentators have not yet agreed what this phrase implies about their play. A crack team of linguists (on crack) are attempting to crack this code as I write these very words -- actually this one, this word... now!

In a final note, players of any color who are married (to women, that is) but also rumored to be gay -- and are known to play well both on offense and defense -- are said to "go both ways."

You're just inviting a Nate rant, complete with graphs and charts!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

But massa da blacks run fasta an jumps higha! Da whites only shoot da three pointas!

Name a black, NBA role player who is often referred to as smart and who hustles but has very limited athleticism.

(Wondering when this thread gets testy and locked. )

Garret Temple? Although he's like, Tiger Woods/Obama black.

Drew Gooden? Guy can barely jump.

Drew Gooden. His moms is from Finland.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

White players are not good athletes. Especially, players with long Italian names are known to be athletically deficient. This is commonly accepted and explains why, for example, the Lopez twins changed their names from Lottopessolino. The long names were slowing them down. Mirza Teletovic is rumored to be considering a name change to "More TV."

It is also well worth noting that the darker a black player is the better athlete he is. Indeed, it is said that some black players are so dark, that they absorb all nearby light and their moves can't be seen at all (although for obvious reasons, this cannot be confirmed). They are said to be called "quick" instead of "ebony" in order to avoid the charge of racism. Indeed their absolute darkness is often obfuscated by calling them lightning quick -- a contradiction so obvious that anyone can see straight through it. By the way, their invisibility may explain why these players never get any calls.

As well, everyone is aware that black players who are actually from Africa are not as young as they claim to be.

Less well known, however, is the fact that many white players seek out skin-darkening procedures in the hope of "passing" (i.e. being thought to be black). Some light-skinned black players have even been rumored to receive this treatment. This may be because they are bothered by the internals of the phrase itself: "light-skinned black."

White players are often called "crafty" in addition to being described as trying hard. Black players, on the other hand, are not allowed to be called "crafty," as this term has been trademarked by White Players of America. Instead, they are to be called "slippery."

Chinese players are often described as "unfair trading partners," although commentators have not yet agreed what this phrase implies about their play. A crack team of linguists (on crack) are attempting to crack this code as I write these very words -- actually this one, this word... now!

In a final note, players of any color who are married (to women, that is) but also rumored to be gay -- and are known to play well both on offense and defense -- are said to "go both ways."

Jimmy the Greek is loving this in his grave.