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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#21 » by samwana » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:25 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Honestly have we ever seen a dumber athlete than drose??


This from a Bulls fan. He is definitely in the running. DRose himself is not very bright and it seems he didn't choose the right people to handle this case either. If you ask me, there are a lot of people in there for the money in this case not only on the other side of the case. And I guess most of them will get that money, Rose will pay way more than when he had settled this case long time ago.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#22 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:27 pm

Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.
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Post#23 » by Jay10 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:34 pm

gavran wrote:Why can a woman accuse a man of rape and be anonymus at the same time? Either both are anonymus, or neither. If the accusation turns out fake, Rose's reputation is gone, while she faces no scrutiny? Doesn't seem to equal to me.


While also asking for Rose's entire year's salary. :lol:
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#24 » by Riot Randolph » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:36 pm

wait till LAPD interview the roommate...
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#25 » by Johnny Hoops » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:37 pm

robbysteinz wrote:Oh boy. LAPD confirms.


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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#26 » by Johnny Hoops » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:39 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Honestly have we ever seen a dumber athlete than drose??


Eddy Curry where are you when we need you? OJ - how about you?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#27 » by Dkillanyk4lyf » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:53 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.


Suspension?? Relax buddy it hasn't reached that point yet.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#28 » by ezmoney707 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:55 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.

C'mon I have yet to see you say single good word about this man since he was traded here, and I would expect that being your a law student you would take the time to actually look at this from an objective standpoint. Considering the document was nor a press release nor was groundbreaking news in the case outside of the public pressure.

Of course there was an Open crimimal investigation, there had to be one ever since she went to the authorities doesn't mean the accuser wanted to file actually criminal charges.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#29 » by ezmoney707 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:01 pm

Especially with the timing it's clear since the accuser''s name must be revealed once the trial begins, the ruling made by the judge last week , that her lawyers are doing everything to prevent that.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#30 » by ChicagoTRS » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:02 pm

Rose buried himself during the civil questioning. His own words basically confirmed she was raped. I predicted the criminal case would be reopened after I read the Rose testimony. He should fire all of his lawyers - Rose should have learned the words "I do not recall".
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#31 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:12 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.


Suspension?? Relax buddy it hasn't reached that point yet.


League doesn't need to wait for the court system to finish before they can make a judgment. If they think it makes the league look bad, they can take action. I took an entire course specifically on sports law with a section on the powers of commissioner. It all comes down to whether or not Silver wants to take action, not whether or not he has the power to.

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.

C'mon I have yet to see you say single good word about this man since he was traded here, and I would expect that being your a law student you would take the time to actually look at this from an objective standpoint. Considering the document was nor a press release nor was groundbreaking news in the case outside of the public pressure.

Of course there was an Open crimimal investigation, there had to be one ever since she went to the authorities doesn't mean the accuser wanted to file actually criminal charges.


I don't need to say anything good about someone if I don't like him. I've pointed out my issues with his on the court game and it's clear as day, even without a criminal case, that he's not intelligent. (See my post above on whether or not a suspension can come - that is not me speaking with dislike towards Rose, it's me speaking objectively.)

LAPD investigating the case doesn't mean there will be, but the fact that they're doing it does raise some eyebrows - most notably, they wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't a suspicion or legitimate question as to whether or not he did anything. If the LAPD proceeds, the state files the action.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#32 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:13 pm

trophywinner wrote:
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Jay10 wrote:This could've been released on a Friday, but it being released on a Monday(will get an entire week of coverage), and especially Knicks media day says this is being done purposely to put pressure on Rose.


LAPD made this info available today. Why would they want to help the plaintiff's civil case?


no they didn't. they made this available weeks ago. the accuser's lawyers had been threatening rose with this for some time now.

another thing, look at the date on the letter, 9/22/16. that was last thursday. today is monday 9/26/16. also knick's media day. they had been holding onto this for this very day.


It's a violation of the Attorney Rules of Professional Responsibility to use the threat of filing a criminal proceeding in order to settle a civil case.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#33 » by trophywinner » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:18 pm

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LAPD made this info available today. Why would they want to help the plaintiff's civil case?


no they didn't. they made this available weeks ago. the accuser's lawyers had been threatening rose with this for some time now.

another thing, look at the date on the letter, 9/22/16. that was last thursday. today is monday 9/26/16. also knick's media day. they had been holding onto this for this very day.


It's a violation of the Attorney Rules of Professional Responsibility to use the thread of filing a criminal proceedings in order to settle a civil case.


so? why are you telling me. read the emails between the accuser's lawyers and rose's regarding the open criminal investigation. go see for yourself.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#34 » by Dkillanyk4lyf » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:18 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.


Suspension?? Relax buddy it hasn't reached that point yet.


League doesn't need to wait for the court system to finish before they can make a judgment. If they think it makes the league look bad, they can take action. I took an entire course specifically on sports law with a section on the powers of commissioner. It all comes down to whether or not Silver wants to take action, not whether or not he has the power to.

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.

C'mon I have yet to see you say single good word about this man since he was traded here, and I would expect that being your a law student you would take the time to actually look at this from an objective standpoint. Considering the document was nor a press release nor was groundbreaking news in the case outside of the public pressure.

Of course there was an Open crimimal investigation, there had to be one ever since she went to the authorities doesn't mean the accuser wanted to file actually criminal charges.


I don't need to say anything good about someone if I don't like him. I've pointed out my issues with his on the court game and it's clear as day, even without a criminal case, that he's not intelligent. (See my post above on whether or not a suspension can come - that is not me speaking with dislike towards Rose, it's me speaking objectively.)

LAPD investigating the case doesn't mean there will be, but the fact that they're doing it does raise some eyebrows - most notably, they wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't a suspicion or legitimate question as to whether or not he did anything. If the LAPD proceeds, the state files the action.


I get that, but I dont believe adam silver will do anything until a verdict is reached. Which is why i said we haven't reached that point yet.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#35 » by ChicagoTRS » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:19 pm

LAPD/prosecutors initially investigated and determined there was not enough evidence to move forward with a criminal investigation. What changed that is Rose's testimony during the civil proceedings. I do not think her attorneys have anything to do with the criminal case - new evidence is what has forced the criminal case open.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#36 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:19 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
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Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Suspension?? Relax buddy it hasn't reached that point yet.


League doesn't need to wait for the court system to finish before they can make a judgment. If they think it makes the league look bad, they can take action. I took an entire course specifically on sports law with a section on the powers of commissioner. It all comes down to whether or not Silver wants to take action, not whether or not he has the power to.

ezmoney707 wrote:C'mon I have yet to see you say single good word about this man since he was traded here, and I would expect that being your a law student you would take the time to actually look at this from an objective standpoint. Considering the document was nor a press release nor was groundbreaking news in the case outside of the public pressure.

Of course there was an Open crimimal investigation, there had to be one ever since she went to the authorities doesn't mean the accuser wanted to file actually criminal charges.


I don't need to say anything good about someone if I don't like him. I've pointed out my issues with his on the court game and it's clear as day, even without a criminal case, that he's not intelligent. (See my post above on whether or not a suspension can come - that is not me speaking with dislike towards Rose, it's me speaking objectively.)

LAPD investigating the case doesn't mean there will be, but the fact that they're doing it does raise some eyebrows - most notably, they wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't a suspicion or legitimate question as to whether or not he did anything. If the LAPD proceeds, the state files the action.


I get that, but I dont believe adam silver will do anything until a verdict is reached. Which is why i said we haven't reached that point yet.


Right, but my point was that Silver doesn't need to wait until a verdict is reached - he can take action before if, for example, he thinks it is tarnishing the image of the league.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#37 » by blueNorange » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:21 pm

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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#38 » by duetta » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:22 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:Saw this coming a mile away. Next up, suspension.

:lol: What a **** idiot. Low IQ on court, low IQ off court.


Yep. At the time of the trade, the only way this one made sense to me was as a salary dump of Lopez - which I couldn't figure the rationale for.

Let's hope Jennings has his head on straight.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#39 » by blueNorange » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:28 pm

gavran wrote:Why can a woman accuse a man of rape and be anonymus at the same time? Either both are anonymus, or neither. If the accusation turns out fake, Rose's reputation is gone, while she faces no scrutiny? Doesn't seem to equal to me.

perhaps she doesn't want her friends and family to know her temple was used by a group of men.

that happens in many rape cases, and why it takes awhile to just tell someone. its a humiliating act that just devalues you. many go into depression and pick up an addiction to cope with the pain.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#40 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:33 pm

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gavran wrote:Why can a woman accuse a man of rape and be anonymus at the same time? Either both are anonymus, or neither. If the accusation turns out fake, Rose's reputation is gone, while she faces no scrutiny? Doesn't seem to equal to me.

perhaps she doesn't want her friends and family to know her temple was used by a group of men.

that happens in many rape cases, and why it takes awhile to just tell someone. its a humiliating act that just devalues you. many go into depression and pick up an addiction to cope with the pain.


How does that play against "the presumption of innocence" and the stigma that goes along with being accused of rape?

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