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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Zero Tolerance, Kop Legend, Tyler Durden 

Post#361 » by KopLegend » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:38 pm

About to head to bed. Anyone not in the league I can trust to send my pick to?
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Zero Tolerance, Kop Legend, Tyler Durden 

Post#362 » by Stix » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:52 pm

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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Zero Tolerance, Kop Legend, Tyler Durden 

Post#363 » by KopLegend » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:56 pm

Yup still around. I'll take Aaron Gordon and call it a night!
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Zero Tolerance, Kop Legend, Tyler Durden 

Post#364 » by Stix » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:05 pm

KopLegend wrote:Yup still around. I'll take Aaron Gordon and call it a night!



Niiiice, I was really tempted to take him or another UofA alum but my FG% sucks and Kanter is my best hope in fixing that.

I also really wanted to take Greg Monroe this round, but that dream got killed long ago... :-?
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Zero Tolerance, Kop Legend, Tyler Durden 

Post#365 » by sunskerr » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:08 pm

Gordon is nice. Not too sold on him though because he's playing out of position and doesn't have a jump shot. Then again I'm not exactly sold on Parsons either.
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Re: RE: Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Safety Pickle, Biz Markieff , Safety Pickle 

Post#366 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:04 pm

TASTIC wrote:
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wheezy wrote:I'm amazed Deandre lasted this long.


Me too. My plan was to grab Gallo, as he shoots and makes a very high amount of FT's per game (7out of 8 per game) to offset Jordans horrible FT%. With news that Drummond has really been working on his FT's this season, i figured my other players like Westbrook/Melo/Love would make more than enough to help cover Drummond, making my team somewhere in the middle with the FT category, while still being at the top in the cats they they bring (FG%/REB/BLKS).

But since Gallo got snatched, i had to find another player that shoots and makes a lot of FT's, and thats Wade. He was 3rd on the list in that category, and i also needed a SG. It also helps that i have Rondo, so if Wade does go down, i know Rondo will be there to benefit from it.

Im still mad i didnt get Gallo. Once again, i was tttttttttthhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssss close.

Don't wanna burst your bubble mate but even adding Gallo, DeRozan, Durant, IThomas, Harden AND Russ to DeAndre and Andre would give you under 75% total. Jordan's FT% literally can't be hidden, even with basically the 5 best FTA/FTM around.

At the moment your team's average is 25/40 at the line...64%. Might set the all-time rebounding record though! Averaging over 9 a game as a team...that is insane. Everything else about average/where you wanna be, but that FT% is an absolute crippler.

Some very interesting stat lines here that's for sure :D

I think you need a very specific roster construction to have jordan or Drummond. I dont like pairing them with the super elite ft guys like harden or russ because if you have those guys you should try to win that category. Best case is finding high ft usage guys who shoot in the 70s where the volume raises the bad ft shooters but their % wasnt going to be good enough to win it anyway.
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Re: RE: Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Safety Pickle, Biz Markieff , Safety Pickle 

Post#367 » by Kerrsed » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:13 pm

TASTIC wrote:Don't wanna burst your bubble mate but even adding Gallo, DeRozan, Durant, IThomas, Harden AND Russ to DeAndre and Andre would give you under 75% total. Jordan's FT% literally can't be hidden, even with basically the 5 best FTA/FTM around.

At the moment your team's average is 25/40 at the line...64%. Might set the all-time rebounding record though! Averaging over 9 a game as a team...that is insane. Everything else about average/where you wanna be, but that FT% is an absolute crippler.


Once again, you are going off last seasons FG% numbers, which is understandable, as its pretty much what we have to look at, but you are also not factoring in the new rule change for this season, which is aimed to halt teams from intentionally fouling poor FT shooters like Drummond/Jordan. With that new rule in place, their FTA per game will be dropping, lessening their poor FTM% on fantasy teams. If they average around 2 or 3 less FT per game like i believe they will, im golden.

Poor FT% + 8 attempts per game = Death on team averages

Poor FT% + 5 attempts per game = Not the Death Sentence it once was.

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I think you need a very specific roster construction to have jordan or Drummond. I dont like pairing them with the super elite ft guys like harden or russ because if you have those guys you should try to win that category. Best case is finding high ft usage guys who shoot in the 70s where the volume raises the bad ft shooters but their % wasnt going to be good enough to win it anyway.


Which is why i was targeting Gallo. Drummond and Jordan average 8 FTA per game, and thats with them being fouled INTENTIONALLY. With the new Hack-a-Shaq rule in effect this year, the amount of intentional fouls should drop and Drummond/Jordan should be down to around 5 or 6 FTA per game. Gallo takes 8 FTA per game and hits around 6. The kid gets fouled alot and makes a good percentage of his attempts. I think he would have really balanced it out pretty damn good.
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Tyler Durden, B-Ball, Bwgood77 

Post#368 » by MathiasPW » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:25 pm

Except that Gallo will have reduced playing time and playmaker responsibilities this year with the amount of competition he has on the roster. I think his number of FT will also drop.
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Tyler Durden, B-Ball, Bwgood77 

Post#369 » by Kyler Murray » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:01 pm

I'll take a risk with DeMarre Carroll, amazing stls, 3p outputs, and he can't shoot that horribly again, can he?
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Re: RE: Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Safety Pickle, Biz Markieff , Safety Pickle 

Post#370 » by TASTIC » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:10 pm

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TASTIC wrote:Don't wanna burst your bubble mate but even adding Gallo, DeRozan, Durant, IThomas, Harden AND Russ to DeAndre and Andre would give you under 75% total. Jordan's FT% literally can't be hidden, even with basically the 5 best FTA/FTM around.

At the moment your team's average is 25/40 at the line...64%. Might set the all-time rebounding record though! Averaging over 9 a game as a team...that is insane. Everything else about average/where you wanna be, but that FT% is an absolute crippler.


Once again, you are going off last seasons FG% numbers, which is understandable, as its pretty much what we have to look at, but you are also not factoring in the new rule change for this season, which is aimed to halt teams from intentionally fouling poor FT shooters like Drummond/Jordan. With that new rule in place, their FTA per game will be dropping, lessening their poor FTM% on fantasy teams. If they average around 2 or 3 less FT per game like i believe they will, im golden.

Poor FT% + 8 attempts per game = Death on team averages

Poor FT% + 5 attempts per game = Not the Death Sentence it once was.

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I think you need a very specific roster construction to have jordan or Drummond. I dont like pairing them with the super elite ft guys like harden or russ because if you have those guys you should try to win that category. Best case is finding high ft usage guys who shoot in the 70s where the volume raises the bad ft shooters but their % wasnt going to be good enough to win it anyway.


Which is why i was targeting Gallo. Drummond and Jordan average 8 FTA per game, and thats with them being fouled INTENTIONALLY. With the new Hack-a-Shaq rule in effect this year, the amount of intentional fouls should drop and Drummond/Jordan should be down to around 5 or 6 FTA per game. Gallo takes 8 FTA per game and hits around 6. The kid gets fouled alot and makes a good percentage of his attempts. I think he would have really balanced it out pretty damn good.

Let's say they both drop a combined 5 FTA off their totals...that's still 25/35, 71%.

The rule change will stop DAJ having those ridiculous 8-20 games, but he's still going to be doing 2/6 most nights. Rondo isn't overly flash but doesn't take many, while Wade's not likely to repeat last year's second highest career mark of 79% - last 4 seasons combined he's 76%, which is good, but what you want your bigs to shoot not your high volume SG.

If it works I'll eat humble pie for sure...I'd move one of them midseason though for FT% like DeRozan or Gallo and hope they can save you a point or two in FT%...
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - B-Ball, Bwgood77, Kobe>Jordan>God 

Post#371 » by Kerrsed » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:27 pm

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TASTIC wrote:Don't wanna burst your bubble mate but even adding Gallo, DeRozan, Durant, IThomas, Harden AND Russ to DeAndre and Andre would give you under 75% total. Jordan's FT% literally can't be hidden, even with basically the 5 best FTA/FTM around.

At the moment your team's average is 25/40 at the line...64%. Might set the all-time rebounding record though! Averaging over 9 a game as a team...that is insane. Everything else about average/where you wanna be, but that FT% is an absolute crippler.


Once again, you are going off last seasons FG% numbers, which is understandable, as its pretty much what we have to look at, but you are also not factoring in the new rule change for this season, which is aimed to halt teams from intentionally fouling poor FT shooters like Drummond/Jordan. With that new rule in place, their FTA per game will be dropping, lessening their poor FTM% on fantasy teams. If they average around 2 or 3 less FT per game like i believe they will, im golden.

Poor FT% + 8 attempts per game = Death on team averages

Poor FT% + 5 attempts per game = Not the Death Sentence it once was.

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I think you need a very specific roster construction to have jordan or Drummond. I dont like pairing them with the super elite ft guys like harden or russ because if you have those guys you should try to win that category. Best case is finding high ft usage guys who shoot in the 70s where the volume raises the bad ft shooters but their % wasnt going to be good enough to win it anyway.


Which is why i was targeting Gallo. Drummond and Jordan average 8 FTA per game, and thats with them being fouled INTENTIONALLY. With the new Hack-a-Shaq rule in effect this year, the amount of intentional fouls should drop and Drummond/Jordan should be down to around 5 or 6 FTA per game. Gallo takes 8 FTA per game and hits around 6. The kid gets fouled alot and makes a good percentage of his attempts. I think he would have really balanced it out pretty damn good.

Let's say they both drop a combined 5 FTA off their totals...that's still 25/35, 71%.

The rule change will stop DAJ having those ridiculous 8-20 games, but he's still going to be doing 2/6 most nights. Rondo isn't overly flash but doesn't take many, while Wade's not likely to repeat last year's second highest career mark of 79% - last 4 seasons combined he's 76%, which is good, but what you want your bigs to shoot not your high volume SG.

If it works I'll eat humble pie for sure...I'd move one of them midseason though for FT% like DeRozan or Gallo and hope they can save you a point or two in FT%...


Im fine with 2/6 most nights. I mean i have both Jordan and Drummond, so i can evaluate them accordingly and not have to play them both every game. Hell, i could use Jordan or Drummond as a back-up C if need be and let one ride the bench, while others would be (in-a-way) forced to start them as their starting C. It also takes away someone else being a major threat to me in the rebound category.

I look at it this way, Jordans FTA's are skewed by intentional fouls. He averaged 8 FTA per game, so its safe to say that games where he had, say 10 or more FTA, were the result of intentional fouling. He had 30 games last season where he attempted over 10 FT's. 10 of those games he attempted over 15 FT's. 4 of those he attempted over 20! Cutting the crap will definitely make him a much much more manageable player to deal with.
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - B-Ball, Bwgood77, Kobe>Jordan>God 

Post#372 » by b-ball forever » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:36 pm

Good potential of a 2nd breakout year in a row for Otto Porter. Gimme the Wizard
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Bwgood77, Kobe>Jordan>God, Squad Goals 

Post#373 » by bwgood77 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:34 pm

After much deliberation, I gotta go with Marvin Williams.
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - B-Ball, Bwgood77, Kobe>Jordan>God 

Post#374 » by TASTIC » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:44 pm

*Edited.

I'm being a know it all d1ck here Kerrsed, my bad!
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Kobe>Jordan>God, Squad Goals, Road House 

Post#375 » by Stix » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:04 am

TASTIC wrote:Nothing Easy has Howard, but surrounding him with elite FT% like DeRozan and Bledsoe means he's (on last year's stats) sitting at 74%.


Uhh.. I don't have Howard. :-?
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Kobe>Jordan>God, Squad Goals, Road House 

Post#376 » by TASTIC » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:06 am

Zero Tolerance wrote:
TASTIC wrote:Nothing Easy has Howard, but surrounding him with elite FT% like DeRozan and Bledsoe means he's (on last year's stats) sitting at 74%.


Uhh.. I don't have Howard. :-?

Apologies - my spreadsheet hadn't updated after your trade...Move along, my bad :wink:
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Kobe>Jordan>God, Squad Goals, Road House 

Post#377 » by Kobe>Jordan>God » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:27 am

Kent Bazemore

Not excited about this pick, but he fills a need...
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Kobe>Jordan>God, Squad Goals, Road House 

Post#378 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:35 am

Kobe>Jordan>God wrote:Kent Bazemore

Not excited about this pick, but he fills a need...


I had switched from Williams to Bazemore and was all set to take him but at the last minute had to go with Williams. So he was almost gone the pick before you.
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Kobe>Jordan>God, Squad Goals, Road House 

Post#379 » by Kobe>Jordan>God » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:43 am

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Kobe>Jordan>God wrote:Kent Bazemore

Not excited about this pick, but he fills a need...


I had switched from Williams to Bazemore and was all set to take him but at the last minute had to go with Williams. So he was almost gone the pick before you.


I'm glad at least Bazemore was still there. My list for this pick has been decimated with nearly every pick in this round being a forward. Chandler Parsons was the guy I was really hoping would fall to me, but even names like DeMarre Carroll and Otto Porter were off the board before my pick.
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Re: **Fantasy: Premier League thread - Squad Goals, Road House, Washington Generals 

Post#380 » by Superhuman » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:58 am

I'll take Jordan Clarkson!

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