Rose found not liable: Update pg. 62

[trophywinner]

You know how sometimes you'll put something off or just not get around to doing something and then it completely comes back to bite you in the ass? This is basically what seems to have happened with Rose. If he had bought her a few things and maintained the obvious "quid pro quo" agreement with this woman she never would have taken it this far.

She's obviously money hungry and Rose is obviously a freaking moron that isn't apparently that street smart either. As I keep saying both of them look like complete idiots. She's a money and fame hungry call girl basically and Derrick has the IQ of a tree stump.

lol, rose didn't owe her anything. there was no agreement. she was a side-chick and he treated her as such. maybe rose isn't the one who has some catching up to do.

If you treat people like ****, you shouldn't be surprised when they eventually return the favor. Even if the accusations are 100% false, Derrick has no one but himself to blame for this mess.

ummm but he didn't treat her like ****? he bought her a laptop, flew her places, invited her to his LA parties. he gave her a taste of his life. if you read her summary of their relationship, she makes it very clear that rose was always great to her, and it's even printed in court documents where the accuser states that she had hopes of him proposing because she "would've married rose".

Even if the accusations are 100% false, Derrick has no one but himself to blame for this mess

lol bro what? nope, no one is deserving of these kinds of accusations if they are false. and it's a shame false rape accusations go unpunished.

[nykfan42]

Where's the pic of the chick with Earl? My friends were asking me for it but i can't find it in any of the threads.

[Flopper]

lol, rose didn't owe her anything. there was no agreement. she was a side-chick and he treated her as such. maybe rose isn't the one who has some catching up to do.

If you treat people like ****, you shouldn't be surprised when they eventually return the favor. Even if the accusations are 100% false, Derrick has no one but himself to blame for this mess.

ummm but he didn't treat her like ****? he bought her a laptop, flew her places, invited her to his LA parties. he gave her a taste of his life. if you read her summary of their relationship, she makes it very clear that rose was always great to her, and it's even printed in court documents where the accuser states that she had hopes of him proposing because she "would've married rose".

Even if the accusations are 100% false, Derrick has no one but himself to blame for this mess

lol bro what? nope, no one is deserving of these kinds of accusations if they are false. and it's a shame false rape accusations go unpunished.

Please tell me where I used the word "deserved". My point is that he made poor decisions that put him in a position where someone felt they had the leverage to exploit him. I'm a fan of Derrick the player and wish him the best on the court, but making all these excuses and calling him a victim is some of the dumbest **** I've ever seen on RealGM. He played with fire by having an extended relationship with a women who makes a hobby out of screwing NBA players and he's now paying the price. Bad things happens when you associate yourself with bad people.

[Riot Randolph]

Lol Flopper sounds like 1 of those crazy feminists, making excuses for her even if she filed false charges? Stop being such a cuck bro.

Female empowerment does not mean blind support ....

[HarthorneWingo]

LAPD made this info available today. Why would they want to help the plaintiff's civil case?

no they didn't. they made this available weeks ago. the accuser's lawyers had been threatening rose with this for some time now.

another thing, look at the date on the letter, 9/22/16. that was last thursday. today is monday 9/26/16. also knick's media day. they had been holding onto this for this very day.

It's a violation of the Attorney Rules of Professional Responsibility to use the threat of filing a criminal proceeding in order to settle a civil case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/fed-judge-derrick-rose-rape-case-orders-bickering-article-1.2811948

Judge Michael Fitzgerald issued a temporary gag order barring all parties from making public statements that bash anyone related to the case, discussing testimony or revealing evidence not admissible at trial.

"I am really fed up with both of you," Fitzgerald said to the lawyers on opposing sides of the courtroom.

He said it was "particularly egregious" and "borderline unethical" that Rose’s accuser's lawyers filed paperwork earlier this week that revealed a letter from the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed a criminal investigation of Rose for the alleged sexual assault.

"That was absolutely calculated to obtain a settlement in the case," the judge said, claiming Knicks President Phil Jackson and Rose's business partners were the intended target audience for the information.

[Riot Randolph]

no they didn't. they made this available weeks ago. the accuser's lawyers had been threatening rose with this for some time now.

another thing, look at the date on the letter, 9/22/16. that was last thursday. today is monday 9/26/16. also knick's media day. they had been holding onto this for this very day.

It's a violation of the Attorney Rules of Professional Responsibility to use the threat of filing a criminal proceeding in order to settle a civil case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/fed-judge-derrick-rose-rape-case-orders-bickering-article-1.2811948

Judge Michael Fitzgerald issued a temporary gag order barring all parties from making public statements that bash anyone related to the case, discussing testimony or revealing evidence not admissible at trial.

"I am really fed up with both of you," Fitzgerald said to the lawyers on opposing sides of the courtroom.

He said it was "particularly egregious" and "borderline unethical" that Rose’s accuser's lawyers filed paperwork earlier this week that revealed a letter from the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed a criminal investigation of Rose for the alleged sexual assault.

"That was absolutely calculated to obtain a settlement in the case," the judge said, claiming Knicks President Phil Jackson and Rose's business partners were the intended target audience for the information.

Judge looks at accusers team "I'm disgusted by you're borderline unethical practices" looks at defendants team "and you im displeased with your ineptitude "

[Bill Pidto]

Sounds like this judge is a Knicks fan. Let's wrap this thing up...

[br7knicks]

i didn't read the whole thing, and not sure how relevant this is, but:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-big-lie-about-the-woman-accusing-derrick-rose-of-gang-rape-b6929a7c05f6#.ktraci6ch

[NYKAL]

as long as he's not convicted in a criminal case, then like Kobe, all he has to do is WIN.

[ZeroStatic2]

Watch on YouTube

[postcall]

I mean it takes 5 seconds to find out who it was anyway. The internet everyone.

[Jalen Bluntson]

i didn't read the whole thing, and not sure how relevant this is, but:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-big-lie-about-the-woman-accusing-derrick-rose-of-gang-rape-b6929a7c05f6#.ktraci6ch

It doesn't explain away the direct statements that she made about Doe saying she wasn't raped. So it really doesn't help her case IMO.

[don't panac]

i didn't read the whole thing, and not sure how relevant this is, but:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-big-lie-about-the-woman-accusing-derrick-rose-of-gang-rape-b6929a7c05f6#.ktraci6ch

It doesn't explain away the direct statements that she made about Doe saying she wasn't raped. So it really doesn't help her case IMO.

well, it does,
because half of the case she is just a gold-digger is built on those texts and on the word of her "friend".
now this new evidence clearly shows that these text don't refer to the rose case, and that she has been trying to screw her over and was in league with rose's lawyer. which completely undermines anything else she has to say on the case.

[Jalen Bluntson]

i didn't read the whole thing, and not sure how relevant this is, but:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-big-lie-about-the-woman-accusing-derrick-rose-of-gang-rape-b6929a7c05f6#.ktraci6ch

It doesn't explain away the direct statements that she made about Doe saying she wasn't raped. So it really doesn't help her case IMO.

well, it does,
because half of the case she is just a gold-digger is built on those texts and on the word of her "friend".
now this new evidence clearly shows that these text don't refer to the rose case, and that she has been trying to screw her over and was in league with rose's lawyer. which completely undermines anything else she has to say on the case.

Fair point. I am not sure what to believe and I hope we don't have a rapist on the team. I just want to watch some damn basketball.

[Keller61]

i didn't read the whole thing, and not sure how relevant this is, but:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-big-lie-about-the-woman-accusing-derrick-rose-of-gang-rape-b6929a7c05f6#.ktraci6ch

It doesn't explain away the direct statements that she made about Doe saying she wasn't raped. So it really doesn't help her case IMO.

well, it does,
because half of the case she is just a gold-digger is built on those texts and on the word of her "friend".
now this new evidence clearly shows that these text don't refer to the rose case, and that she has been trying to screw her over and was in league with rose's lawyer. which completely undermines anything else she has to say on the case.

Some of the texts (which were left out of that article) were clearly referring to the Rose case:

“Ok lets keep it at 90 then thats 6 months. Lol and i can even pay the whole couch off around xmas my dad gives me money not presents for xmas every year. then u just give me payment and since we finally filed against derrick we soon will be will be returning his tv and ill get us a Plasma.”

But anyway, the "friend" who released those texts (Keyana LaVergne) isn't the one who said that Doe told her she wasn't raped (Gabriela Chavez), so this doesn't affect Rose's best evidence.

[Jalen Bluntson]

It doesn't explain away the direct statements that she made about Doe saying she wasn't raped. So it really doesn't help her case IMO.

well, it does,
because half of the case she is just a gold-digger is built on those texts and on the word of her "friend".
now this new evidence clearly shows that these text don't refer to the rose case, and that she has been trying to screw her over and was in league with rose's lawyer. which completely undermines anything else she has to say on the case.

Some of the texts (which were left out of that article) were clearly referring to the Rose case:

“Ok lets keep it at 90 then thats 6 months. Lol and i can even pay the whole couch off around xmas my dad gives me money not presents for xmas every year. then u just give me payment and since we finally filed against derrick we soon will be will be returning his tv and ill get us a Plasma.”

But anyway, the "friend" who released those texts (Keyana LaVergne) isn't the one who said that Doe told her she wasn't raped (Gabriela Chavez), so this doesn't affect Rose's best evidence.

So there are two "friends" testifying? I thought it was just the one. So no matter what this amounts to....the second testimony really matters most.

[JXL]

It seems Rose's lawyers are dragging this out until later today, but the accuser's lawyers wants Rose to settle it outside of court. Are they afraid this will go to trial, or are they becoming more confident that if this goes to trial, Rose will get grilled?

[Rotten Apple]

Sounds like this judge is a Knicks fan. Let's wrap this thing up...

He's definitely a Knicks fan.

[F N 11]

I hope some hug news comes out and she loses. Rose seems way too confident that he's innocent. Im sure he has some of the best lawyers.

[trophywinner]

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