2016 Official Speculation Thread: Episode V - The Preseason Strikes Back

[MagicStarwipe]

Harris always had a positive Can do attitude and didn't guve a crap about his critics. He even talked **** to Lebron James and showed him he didn't give a crap about his reputation or any of that nonsense. The guy was not that talented, true but you gotta respect his never say die mentality.

Definitely. But after Harris talked that trash, LeBron made him his bitch. I respect Tobias and he gets the most out of his abilities, but those abilities aren't all that impressive at the end of the day.

[Skin]

Good to see his form and accuracy improving off the inbounds pass... but it's still a very slow developing motion. Guys like Klay are lightning quick. They can maintain their form even off the dribble. As a wing Gordon will have to create open looks more than he did as a stretch 4. Don't get me wrong, you have to start with the fundamentals and this is all great developments... but it's just a good start so we need to keep that in mind if he starts to have 0-4 shooting nights from 3.

[OrlandO]

Victor with the Orlando rebuild ghosts still chasing him. Leading the game comfortably, only to lose the lead and finally the game in OT. Yet another good stats game gone to waste.

Typical. You rely on him too much and you will lose. Last season in the games we gave him a lot of shots we lost nearly every game.

I'm not sure that's Victor's fault though...

It was his fault. He pounded the rock into the ground and forced shots he couldn't make. He was terrible in the clutch. He was too inconsistent to rely on. And before you blame it on the roster... Vuc led us to wins when we gave him a lot of shots, so it's not like it wasn't possible for a top option to make a positive impact.

[Orlwillbeback]

Harris always had a positive Can do attitude and didn't guve a crap about his critics. He even talked **** to Lebron James and showed him he didn't give a crap about his reputation or any of that nonsense. The guy was not that talented, true but you gotta respect his never say die mentality.

Definitely. But after Harris talked that trash, LeBron made him his bitch. I respect Tobias and he gets the most out of his abilities, but those abilities aren't all that impressive at the end of the day.

That was going to happen anyway! Of course it didn't phaze Lebron, LBJ is the best player in the league, possibly the most naturally gifted basketball player of all time and he's trying to build up enough credentials to be remembered as the true GOAT. Of course Tobias doesn't hold a candle to him. That wasn't the point. The point was that he showed Lebron that he didn't give a **** about his status in the league or anything else he had done up until that point and challenged him. That showed heart and it showed he didn't fear him.

[OrlandO]

Gordon made LeBron his bitch last year.

[MagicStarwipe]

Typical. You rely on him too much and you will lose. Last season in the games we gave him a lot of shots we lost nearly every game.

I'm not sure that's Victor's fault though...

It was his fault. He pounded the rock into the ground and forced shots he couldn't make. He was terrible in the clutch. He was too inconsistent to rely on. And before you blame it on the roster... Vuc led us to wins when we gave him a lot of shots, so it's not like it wasn't possible for a top option to make a positive impact.

He's so focused on being "great" but the problem is he thinks being great is being the guy that has the ball all the time and takes all the shots. If he'd just play to his strengths, his efficiency would go way up and he'd be a better overall player.

[Dennis Reynolds]

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This is really encouraging.. really hope we see a big jump in his 3pt shooting this year.

me likey

[MagicStarwipe]

Gordon made LeBron his bitch last year.

Was going to say that. That one game where we put AG on LeBron for a stretch late in the game and he shut him down. Tobias isn't the only fearless competitor on our team. Guys like that are who Hennigan goes after. Now it's time to let the more talented ones take over (if they can ever be healthy at the right time!).

[Orlwillbeback]

He's so focused on being "great" but the problem is he thinks being great is being the guy that has the ball all the time and takes all the shots. If he'd just play to his strengths, his efficiency would go way up and he'd be a better overall player.

Whoaa there you think his efficiency could be higher than it was? it was already pretty good, around 54-55 ts%, and you think it "way up" if he did some things differently?

Damn, now you're the Tobias homer and I'm the hater.

This kind of flips things on it's head considering you're obsessed with Payton who is still a good 3 points away from cracking 50ts%!

Who are you and what have you done with MagicStarswipe!?

[MagicStarwipe]

He's so focused on being "great" but the problem is he thinks being great is being the guy that has the ball all the time and takes all the shots. If he'd just play to his strengths, his efficiency would go way up and he'd be a better overall player.

Whoaa there you think his efficiency could be higher than it was? it was already pretty good, around 54-55 ts%, and you think it "way up" if he did some things differently?

Damn, now you're the Tobias homer and I'm the hater.

This kind of flips things on it's head considering you're obsessed with Payton who is still a good 3 points away from cracking 50ts%!

Who are you and what have you done with MagicStarswipe!?

I was talking about Oladipo.

[Orlwillbeback]

He's so focused on being "great" but the problem is he thinks being great is being the guy that has the ball all the time and takes all the shots. If he'd just play to his strengths, his efficiency would go way up and he'd be a better overall player.

Whoaa there you think his efficiency could be higher than it was? it was already pretty good, around 54-55 ts%, and you think it "way up" if he did some things differently?

Damn, now you're the Tobias homer and I'm the hater.

This kind of flips things on it's head considering you're obsessed with Payton who is still a good 3 points away from cracking 50ts%!

Who are you and what have you done with MagicStarswipe!?

I was talking about Oladipo.

oops, sorry

[Bensational]

I'm not sure that's Victor's fault though...

It was his fault. He pounded the rock into the ground and forced shots he couldn't make. He was terrible in the clutch. He was too inconsistent to rely on. And before you blame it on the roster... Vuc led us to wins when we gave him a lot of shots, so it's not like it wasn't possible for a top option to make a positive impact.

He's so focused on being "great" but the problem is he thinks being great is being the guy that has the ball all the time and takes all the shots. If he'd just play to his strengths, his efficiency would go way up and he'd be a better overall player.

He's a guy who will figure it out in his late 20's and then be a key part of a contending team for his late career, I reckon. But now, he's young, he's talented, he wants to be a star and he wants a big pay day.

[NavalAviator94]

It was his fault. He pounded the rock into the ground and forced shots he couldn't make. He was terrible in the clutch. He was too inconsistent to rely on. And before you blame it on the roster... Vuc led us to wins when we gave him a lot of shots, so it's not like it wasn't possible for a top option to make a positive impact.

He's so focused on being "great" but the problem is he thinks being great is being the guy that has the ball all the time and takes all the shots. If he'd just play to his strengths, his efficiency would go way up and he'd be a better overall player.

He's a guy who will figure it out in his late 20's and then be a key part of a contending team for his late career, I reckon. But now, he's young, he's talented, he wants to be a star and he wants a big pay day.

The nerve of that guy!


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[Andre Roberstan]

Typical. You rely on him too much and you will lose. Last season in the games we gave him a lot of shots we lost nearly every game.

I'm not sure that's Victor's fault though...

Then who's fault is it? if he can't put the ball in the hoop, find someone who can.

VO doesn't like to defer.

I assume OKC lost after being up? VO is a talented player, but yeah, i think that we need to stop living in denial about what he can cost you in games simply to support the idea that we had a bad offseason.

I mean, if you close out the game with Kanter, Abrines, Ilyasova, Singler and Huestis on the floor with him and Westbrook only plays 2 quarters he's probably not gonna look great

[EAS Law]

I'm not sure that's Victor's fault though...

Then who's fault is it? if he can't put the ball in the hoop, find someone who can.

VO doesn't like to defer.

I assume OKC lost after being up? VO is a talented player, but yeah, i think that we need to stop living in denial about what he can cost you in games simply to support the idea that we had a bad offseason.

I mean, if you close out the game with Kanter, Abrines, Ilyasova, Singler and Huestis on the floor with him and Westbrook only plays 2 quarters he's probably not gonna look great

I watched him from before his draft. I thought he was going to be a player he wasn't. I watched him try and try and try to become what Russ is for you guys, what D-Wade was for Miami, what Harden is for Houston and was for you guys--he's just not that player.

For all the talent he has--his athleticism, his length, quickness, tenacity, he has a difficult time closing it out when it matters and he will often try too hard to force a play that isn't there.

I see he put up 34, and I'm not trying to start yet another argument with you guys about the trade or the players involved. He's going to have lots of nights where he is going to get you VERY excited about being on the team, but once the novelty wears thin, you'll understand.

My post was directed toward the many posters within the Magic forum, that are now to a point where they virtually root against the team because they must be correct in their assertion that we had a terrible offseason, and that Hennigan has no clue what he's doing.

[Andre Roberstan]

Then who's fault is it? if he can't put the ball in the hoop, find someone who can.

VO doesn't like to defer.

I assume OKC lost after being up? VO is a talented player, but yeah, i think that we need to stop living in denial about what he can cost you in games simply to support the idea that we had a bad offseason.

I mean, if you close out the game with Kanter, Abrines, Ilyasova, Singler and Huestis on the floor with him and Westbrook only plays 2 quarters he's probably not gonna look great

I watched him from before his draft. I thought he was going to be a player he wasn't. I watched him try and try and try to become what Russ is for you guys, what D-Wade was for Miami, what Harden is for Houston and was for you guys--he's just not that player.

For all the talent he has--his athleticism, his length, quickness, tenacity, he has a difficult time closing it out when it matters and he will often try too hard to force a play that isn't there.

I see he put up 34, and I'm not trying to start yet another argument with you guys about the trade or the players involved. He's going to have lots of nights where he is going to get you VERY excited about being on the team, but once the novelty wears thin, you'll understand.

My post was directed toward the many posters within the Magic forum, that are now to a point where they virtually root against the team because they must be correct in their assertion that we had a terrible offseason, and that Hennigan has no clue what he's doing.

If he's what Dion Waiters thinks he is I'll be happy. Not expecting him to be an allstar.

[Mc-o]

I'm not sure that's Victor's fault though...

Then who's fault is it? if he can't put the ball in the hoop, find someone who can.

VO doesn't like to defer.

I assume OKC lost after being up? VO is a talented player, but yeah, i think that we need to stop living in denial about what he can cost you in games simply to support the idea that we had a bad offseason.

I mean, if you close out the game with Kanter, Abrines, Ilyasova, Singler and Huestis on the floor with him and Westbrook only plays 2 quarters he's probably not gonna look great

He looks the same as he always has , that's Dipos game the way he played , he has moments where he is amazing and then other moments where he makes bad decision and unfortunately for him he usually makes the mistakes in the clutch , just like he did in the end of regulation Last night when he drove into a crowd , ignored his teammates and air balled that layup .

[bondom34]

Shoulda passed to Singler.

[EAS Law]

I mean, if you close out the game with Kanter, Abrines, Ilyasova, Singler and Huestis on the floor with him and Westbrook only plays 2 quarters he's probably not gonna look great

I watched him from before his draft. I thought he was going to be a player he wasn't. I watched him try and try and try to become what Russ is for you guys, what D-Wade was for Miami, what Harden is for Houston and was for you guys--he's just not that player.

For all the talent he has--his athleticism, his length, quickness, tenacity, he has a difficult time closing it out when it matters and he will often try too hard to force a play that isn't there.

I see he put up 34, and I'm not trying to start yet another argument with you guys about the trade or the players involved. He's going to have lots of nights where he is going to get you VERY excited about being on the team, but once the novelty wears thin, you'll understand.

My post was directed toward the many posters within the Magic forum, that are now to a point where they virtually root against the team because they must be correct in their assertion that we had a terrible offseason, and that Hennigan has no clue what he's doing.

If he's what Dion Waiters thinks he is I'll be happy. Not expecting him to be an allstar.

haha, he is worlds better than what Dion Waiters even thinks he is.

I hate to make it about this, but if Oladipo begins to enjoy the benefit of the whistle and wearing an OKC uniform (popular team)-- he will actually probably make the all-star team.

If he were able to get to the line more, an area in which he struggled while in Orlando, he would have put up incredible numbers and never been traded.

Enjoy the games where he gets to throw down some impressive dunks (like he did the other night). It's very exciting, and I'm sure he's probably planning on making an impression on the fans in OKC.

[Mc-o]

Shoulda passed to Singler.

Touchè lmao