PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6

[IllmaticHandler]

one of the things not being talked about enough is that coach made good offensive adjustments. Its clear to me, that Jeff will adapt very fast. Last year...Fisher would have forced the triangle all game. Once the knicks get more time together the offense will look solid.

[Capn'O]

The Second Unit:
Brandon Jennings: To sum it up in a word, pressing. He got into the lane a LOT which is promising but he tried to force both his shots and some passes along the way. He hit a nice jumper but bricked a bit also. Overall, this one felt like a player who wanted to do too much too soon. His ability to get inside and willingness to pass though were both good signs as the rust comes off.

Honestly, I loved it. He looked to me like a guy that just got his speed back and is trying some stuff. He needs reps and this is a perfect time to do it. But I was really happy at how his condition looked. He looks fast again.

Jennings has always been able to get into the lane. Being able to finish or making a smart decision is what has kept him from being a good player. I don't see that changing. He is what he is. An inefficient chucker.

Coming back from his Achilles injury, he was not.

[F N 11]

Get use to KP shooting 50 % folks. Its gunna be lit. He's ready to let it go. Unlike last year when he was trying to fit in and be a rookie.

[F N 11]

I kind of expected defense to look like trash especially with Noah out. Team defense is like 75% communication and chemistry, rest is a mix of individual effort and talent. With the roster turnover and the most vocal defensive captain out it wasn't gonna look good. My biggest concerns for season are depth and offensive philosophy. I am still not clear what kind of offense knicks are trying to run really. The media is full of so many ignorant people though and many who are ex players which is alarming. For example a common trope is that anything that looks bad = triangle, lmao.

Harden made KP and Kyle move and used their own body against them. Harden is a master of manipulating the pick and roll. We will be okay.

[HEZI]

Nah I'm good, that brand needs a bunch of tweaks & potent consistency for it to smell anything like a rose.

Well if you never give it a sniff then you will never know what it smells like

All I need is a whiff I don't need to puff it

All I am saying is, even Melo recognizes that he never played with a PG like Derrick Rose before ever in his career. I'm also pretty sure he never played with a 7'3" unicorn either. What I am saying is, let's not pretend like these guys are Raymond Felton or Jose Calderon and Nene or Kenyon Martin or Amare Stoudemire. Let's accept it for what it is, Melo is in a new environment now and the talent around him is better than ever, the sooner he embraces it the better it will be for the team.

[CJackson]

I've said this the last two years. It all starts with iso melo. The reason why he plays so well in the Olympics is because he's not a first option. He has to transfer that into the nba. He's not a top scorer nightly anymore. And offensively he's clearly the third option. Both kp and rose are better play makers overall offensively. When he learns how to play team ball the Knicks will then be contenders. Kp is the future and anyone who can't see that is just not keeping it real.

Melo's comfort zone is to dribble the ball to be in his own rhythm before he puts up a shot. Other guys just shoot when they get the ball. Last night illustrated how a player's tempo may not be in sync with his team's tempo. First game though, so it is a stretch to say the Knicks were in sync, because they were not.

But you can say their pace was generally high and Melo's was slower compared to his teammates. Melo does need to go outside of his comfort zone and figure out how to find spots on the floor where he can catch and shoot, because demanding the ball and going into ISO won't mesh with the team most of the time.

It is important to be able to back down a man and get off a shot which Melo does as it is sometimes what needs to happen, but in general that is not going to be the identity of this team on offense so Melo will need to adjust.

KP's super quick release was pretty amazing and shows what could happen with this offense not just for him, but for Melo too. When you add in our other shooters, there are plenty of options to get open looks looks with quick releases due to having legit penetration and PnR options in Rose and BJ.

We have shooters who can feed off the slash and kickout and PnR including KP, Melo, Lee, Kuz. Basically, we should be able to have at least two legit deep shooters on the floor at any time to complement our slashers.

[F N 11]

one of the things not being talked about enough is that coach made good offensive adjustments. Its clear to me, that Jeff will adapt very fast. Last year...Fisher would have forced the triangle all game. Once the knicks get more time together the offense will look solid.

A ton of down screens for KP to get open for 3 and 2 man game with KP and Rose once he got hot. Hardly saw that last year.

[moocow007]

Next game is against the Nets so let's hope that they do better.

[Sark]

Honestly, I loved it. He looked to me like a guy that just got his speed back and is trying some stuff. He needs reps and this is a perfect time to do it. But I was really happy at how his condition looked. He looks fast again.

Jennings has always been able to get into the lane. Being able to finish or making a smart decision is what has kept him from being a good player. I don't see that changing. He is what he is. An inefficient chucker.

Coming back from his Achilles injury, he was not.

His healed Achilles didn't heal his brain. He was and will continue to be a low bball IQ, inefficient chucker.

[F N 11]

Q- What can we expect from you this year

KP- I'm just going to let my game do the talking.

Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[F N 11]

Say what yall want about Jennings. He made a lot happen. Guys missed a ton of shots he made for them and or started with him.

[CJackson]

one of the things not being talked about enough is that coach made good offensive adjustments. Its clear to me, that Jeff will adapt very fast. Last year...Fisher would have forced the triangle all game. Once the knicks get more time together the offense will look solid.

The subs were uneven, but I took note of it immediately when the first wave of subs were three guys coming in to play with two of the starters, KP and Lee, who were the most effective starters at the beginning of the game. That showed awareness of who was playing better on Jeff's part.

[CJackson]

Say what yall want about Jennings. He made a lot happen. Guys missed a ton of shots he made for them and or started with him.

He was dynamic and showed definite signs of the value he can bring to the team

[NOOB77]

Interesting to see what coach does with KP and Noah on defense with a line-up like the Rockets? Would he put Noah outside on Anderson? Seems like Noah would be better guarding the 1/5 pick and roll. Are people like Anderson always going to give us problem at the 4?

[MaseInYourFace]

Interesting to see what coach does with KP and Noah on defense with a line-up like the Rockets? Would he put Noah outside on Anderson? Seems like Noah would be better guarding the 1/5 pick and roll. Are people like Anderson always going to give us problem at the 4?

Like I said earlier in this thread it is something we will have to continue to watch because Knicks might have an issue there especially if Noah is out. Noah needs to be the guy to come out to close out and he's gonna have to do it against 4's quite a bit as well. There really aren't too many people on this roster who can do that. It is Noah, KP (who is still learning), and LT (but depending on matchups you may want him guarding other players). KOQ and Willie cannot be relied on to close out stretch 4's. Melo ehh it's gonna depend on how his legs are that particular game, I am not counting on him to do it game to game.

[Capn'O]

Jennings has always been able to get into the lane. Being able to finish or making a smart decision is what has kept him from being a good player. I don't see that changing. He is what he is. An inefficient chucker.

Coming back from his Achilles injury, he was not.

His healed Achilles didn't heal his brain. He was and will continue to be a low bball IQ, inefficient chucker.

So basically, I'm right but a point I did not make is wrong. Find somebody making that point and I'm sure they'd be happy to oblige.

[Capn'O]

Next game is against the Nets so let's hope that they do better.

We may even be ECF contenders after that one

[NOOB77]

Interesting to see what coach does with KP and Noah on defense with a line-up like the Rockets? Would he put Noah outside on Anderson? Seems like Noah would be better guarding the 1/5 pick and roll. Are people like Anderson always going to give us problem at the 4?

Like I said earlier in this thread it is something we will have to continue to watch because Knicks might have an issue there especially if Noah is out. Noah needs to be the guy to come out to close out and he's gonna have to do it against 4's quite a bit as well. There really aren't too many people on this roster who can do that. It is Noah, KP (who is still learning), and LT (but depending on matchups you may want him guarding other players). KOQ and Willie cannot be relied on to close out stretch 4's. Melo ehh it's gonna depend on how his legs are that particular game, I am not counting on him to do it game to game.

I think we will be OK if Noah is out we can turn around and play small against a line-up like that. We would rotate our line-ups based on match-ups if Noah is out for a long period of time I would think. So it would be Thomas or Melo. I wouldn't have a problem with Melo guarding Anderson.

[Rotten Apple]

I get that we haven't seen basketball since April but there's way too much overanalysis going on.

[HEZI]

Interesting to see what coach does with KP and Noah on defense with a line-up like the Rockets? Would he put Noah outside on Anderson? Seems like Noah would be better guarding the 1/5 pick and roll. Are people like Anderson always going to give us problem at the 4?

The thing I saw was the Knicks desperately trying to protect the paint to a fault. This is where team scouting comes into play and they didn't do that for the first preseason game. Jeff just let them go out there and play off instincts and their instincts showed that they just wanted to protect the paint which the Rockets took advantage of and just picked them apart from the outside.

Now if this was not an exhibition game and the game mattered, the strategy should have been pretty simple. Stay home on the shooters, drop back off of James Harden and give him all the off the dribble jumpers that he wants. The Knicks decided to play Harden tight, which is wrong because he will just use his strength and ball handling ability to get to the basket at will. You want him taking jumpers, as far away from the basket as possible. So on those 1/4 pick and rolls, DO NOT trap him and leave the shooter because he will easily find him, and DO NOT play Harden tight. Instead, tell the guard who is assigned to Harden to sag off and cut off his lane to the basket and tell the man guarding Anderson (KP) to not help over on Harden and not to contest his shot and just stay tight on his man. Let James Harden take that deep shot and live with it. This allows you to protect the paint and not give him layups and AND1 opportunities and doesn't put him on the line for easy free throw points. You live with James Harden taking jumpers, even if he is a lights out shooter, you are keeping the other players from getting in rhythm and opening up the floor for Harden to get into the paint. Even if Harden insists on driving to the basket and bullying you, you stay in front and keep your hands up and you don't swipe at the ball or reach in and you give him a layup. Let Harden carry that entire offense if he wants, but you have to stop his passing and him finding other guys to help him put points up on the board.

On the other side, the Knicks can easily run the same plays with Rose and KP. 1/4 pick and pop all day and counter. The Knicks didn't do that in the first half and you saw how effective it can be when they actually do run it.