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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#481 » by 2010 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:30 pm

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2010 wrote:If Chasson Candle wins the 3rd string PG spot, then the battle for 15th man comes down to Plumlee vs. Amundson at 3rd string C. And I prefer Plumlee due to his wreckless energy, athleticism, and potential to injure opponents


That's crazy! Amundson has the goon thing going plus experience with the league and group. Amundson >>>>> Plumlee.

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I liked Plumlee's goon style too. Just trying to make waves. Long time til' next game.


Yes, I feel you bro. Can't wait til Saturday.

I prefer Plumlee cuz he is younger, can finish above the rim, is bigger, and appears stronger too.

I thought he was a waste of a guaranteed deal initially but I didn't realize his strengths until watching him last game. Thought he was the typical white stiff, or Chris Dudley as someone called him. But nah, this cat goes MAD HARD, lol! Dude was playing like he wants to hold off on that Army Reserve commitment as long as possible, lol. Dude was playing for his life, haha. Challenging everything and throwing that retotted man wiry strength around everywhere. This dude has potential to injure Lebron, bro. I'm tellin' ya.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#482 » by ctorres » Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:37 pm

Knicks are fine bruh!

I might have posted this earlier but I couldn't find my post so maybe I didn't. Anyways, Rockets aren't a good measuring stick for the Knicks right now. I know a 30 point blowout might look concerning, but the Rockets might be the only team that you just can't take seriously, ESPECIALLY in a pre-season game. Just laugh it off, especially for the fact that they're coached by D'Antoni.

Rockets have 4 potential 40% 3pt shooters in the starting lineup with the green light to jack up 6-8 threes per game each and COMPLETELY ignore playing on the defensive end. Most teams in the league aren't built like the Rockets and most aren't going to play with as much reckless abandon as them.

Rockets are going to have games were they play like chickens with their heads cut off and will still win games. They will literally give you a layup just so they quickly inbound the ball on the other end and take a quick three. Harden could look worse than he did last year and it won't matter, that's how hilarious I expect them to be.

This is as pure of a D'Antoni team as you can get:
- One point guard who will dominate the ball.
- Three spot up shooters unlikely to dribble the ball much for the point guard to kick it out to on the off-chance he decides not to shoot the ball himself.
- One pick and roll center with no post game who will do all the rebounding and defending for the entire team, and embrace his 10+ ppg/60%+ fg's/10+ rpg/2+ bpg numbers that come as a result of playing at D'Antoni's pace and not necessarily because he's actually that good of a center.

Don't get me wrong though, I expect them to be super entertaining to watch and would pick them any chance I get in NBA2K17.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#483 » by CJackson » Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:39 pm

2010 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:If Chasson Candle wins the 3rd string PG spot, then the battle for 15th man comes down to Plumlee vs. Amundson at 3rd string C. And I prefer Plumlee due to his wreckless energy, athleticism, and potential to injure opponents


That's crazy! Amundson has the goon thing going plus experience with the league and group. Amundson >>>>> Plumlee.

Spoiler:
I liked Plumlee's goon style too. Just trying to make waves. Long time til' next game.


Yes, I feel you bro. Can't wait til Saturday.

I prefer Plumlee cuz he is younger, can finish above the rim, is bigger, and appears stronger too.

I thought he was a waste of a guaranteed deal initially but I didn't realize his strengths until watching him last game. Thought he was the typical white stiff, or Chris Dudley as someone called him. But nah, this cat goes MAD HARD, lol! Dude was playing like he wants to hold off on that Army Reserve commitment as long as possible, lol. Dude was playing for his life, haha. Challenging everything and throwing that retotted man wiry strength around everywhere. This dude has potential to injure Lebron, bro. I'm tellin' ya.


While Plumlee was largely dismissed until now, I had no real opinion because I did feel we had to wait and see what it was the team saw in him because they obviously had some feeling he might be useful. They knew more than us basically.

The only thing that I was able to pick on prior to this was he has a very powerful looking body and I figured if he was a goon that he might be a very athletic one. I thought you could see from his build and from how he moves (limited, I don't watch college ball) that he might be able to body up, get to loose balls quickly and if he had any court sense he might be able to play in the PnR.

If his arms weren't T-Rexian he'd probably have a much higher ceiling, but he might be of more value than Lou based on the first look. I like having a wrecking ball on the team. He might be that guy.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#484 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:45 pm

2010 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:If Chasson Candle wins the 3rd string PG spot, then the battle for 15th man comes down to Plumlee vs. Amundson at 3rd string C. And I prefer Plumlee due to his wreckless energy, athleticism, and potential to injure opponents


That's crazy! Amundson has the goon thing going plus experience with the league and group. Amundson >>>>> Plumlee.

Spoiler:
I liked Plumlee's goon style too. Just trying to make waves. Long time til' next game.


Yes, I feel you bro. Can't wait til Saturday.

I prefer Plumlee cuz he is younger, can finish above the rim, is bigger, and appears stronger too.

I thought he was a waste of a guaranteed deal initially but I didn't realize his strengths until watching him last game. Thought he was the typical white stiff, or Chris Dudley as someone called him. But nah, this cat goes MAD HARD, lol! Dude was playing like he wants to hold off on that Army Reserve commitment as long as possible, lol. Dude was playing for his life, haha. Challenging everything and throwing that retotted man wiry strength around everywhere. This dude has potential to injure Lebron, bro. I'm tellin' ya.


I had the same reaction. I wanted nothing to do with it but he was winning me over. Might be a scrub but he's a straight goon.

Dudley was the same... he just subbed in for Patrick **** Ewing so it was hard to appreciate. Plus, he had the Yale face.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#486 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:49 pm

Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
That's crazy! Amundson has the goon thing going plus experience with the league and group. Amundson >>>>> Plumlee.

Spoiler:
I liked Plumlee's goon style too. Just trying to make waves. Long time til' next game.


Yes, I feel you bro. Can't wait til Saturday.

I prefer Plumlee cuz he is younger, can finish above the rim, is bigger, and appears stronger too.

I thought he was a waste of a guaranteed deal initially but I didn't realize his strengths until watching him last game. Thought he was the typical white stiff, or Chris Dudley as someone called him. But nah, this cat goes MAD HARD, lol! Dude was playing like he wants to hold off on that Army Reserve commitment as long as possible, lol. Dude was playing for his life, haha. Challenging everything and throwing that retotted man wiry strength around everywhere. This dude has potential to injure Lebron, bro. I'm tellin' ya.


I had the same reaction. I wanted nothing to do with it but he was winning me over. Might be a scrub but he's a straight goon.

Dudley was the same... he just subbed in for Patrick **** Ewing so it was hard to appreciate. Plus, he had the Yale face.


moar goonz.

dudley was appreciated in portland. knick fans can suck sometimes. governor dudley used to lay fools out for us on the low. he loved the no layup rule. not a bad job, really. basketball tough was a nice way to make high 6 figures in the 90s.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#487 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:54 pm

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Post#488 » by Rotten Apple » Thu Oct 6, 2016 6:58 pm

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You can't put Melo in the Klay role because Klay is the best since Rip Hamilton at juking defenders off the ball and coming off curls. The guy is one of the best conditioned athletes in the sport and he wears guys out with constant movement and running and dancing around them.

That's going to be Courtney Lee's role anyways, even though he wont be as effective as Klay but he will be used in a similar fashion. However, I do agree that Melo should be put in more catch and shoot opportunities so that's why I would look to run a lot of 1/3 pick and pops between him and Rose.


Roles=/= play styles

Klay and Melo are obviously different in many ways but my point was Melos catch and shoot is off the charts like if all he did was catch and shoot he'd be one of the most efficient shooters in the league probably league history. I'll find the data later but anyway I'm saying the role would similar to his Olympic role where we mix in post ups and isos on the secondary break

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Outlet to Rose
Rose attacks nothing is there
Pass out to Lee, no shot available
Kick to KP trailing the play, no shot
Melo hits pinch post on the weak side
Melo takes the one on one opportunity against an unbalance defense

You can mix up that last part by having KP hit Melo and they go to a 2 man game and if nothing is there we can hit Noah in the high post and run Rose backdoor for a lay up. With KP, Melo and Lee spacing the court there would be no help and Noah's skilled passing would give Rose a timely pass for the finish.

There's so much we can do instead of the old #1 option, # 2 option BS that's my whole argument and that's even what Phil wants. The ball will find the best shot and that's why he wants the system in place but all 5 guys have to buy in to that.


Yup that's what I'm hoping to see. Melo doesn't have to work as hard as he did in the past in order to get shots, he has the pieces around him now where he can rely more on catch and shoot plays. That's why I want to see less Iso Melo because Rose and Noah will without a doubt find ways to get him the ball unlike anybody he's ever played with before (not including the Olympics). The game will open up for him and he doesn't have to look to force anything. I'm sure there will be times where guys are cold or the defense is just that tough that they will look to Melo to create something out of nothing, but often times he just needs to let it come to him and it will.


Agreed and it will likely benefit him over the long haul of the season. So if we do go far he's not going to run out of gas.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#489 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:02 pm

Didn't Hornacek have a much better record with a Plumlee on his roster then without? He needs a token Plumlee.
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Post#490 » by xNewYorkMadex » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:05 pm

I dont have a problem with Melo Iso'ing. Melo was a hell of a passer last season and Im not even criticizing him for that. My problem with him is his efficiency. And we all know how bad he looks in certain games.

Before the Knicks fell off a cliff last season (after the Jan 20th game vs Utah), I counted Melo shooting 40% and below about 18 or 19 times. Thats way too many considering we were still in playoff contention by that time, and im not even the counting the times he shot below 40% after Jan 20th.

Im a fan of Melo, and WANT him to do very well. But he has avoided any huge criticism because in fairness the team around him has been terrible. This season he honestly needs to cut out all the times he shoots below 40%. Even though I dislike this player, Melo needs to follow in the footsteps of Paul Pierce. A couple of years before he paired up with KG, Ray and Rondo, Pierce put up FG% of 40 & 41%. In 2006-07 he shot 43% -just like Melo is right now, the year they formed the big 3 w Rondo he went up to 46%. His percentages went as high as 50% and never went back to to 43% until his last season in Boston when they were pretty much done as a team.

I dont care how many points Melo averages. Maybe he doesnt need to average 19 PPG. I think he can easily bump it back up to 24 PPG. But all Melo needs to focus on is being efficient and doing it consistently. Melo absolutely cannot fall back into shooting below 40% on many nights and act as if it isnt a big deal or act if its "just one of those nights".
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#491 » by el13adnino » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:12 pm

ctorres wrote:Knicks are fine bruh!

I might have posted this earlier but I couldn't find my post so maybe I didn't. Anyways, Rockets aren't a good measuring stick for the Knicks right now. I know a 30 point blowout might look concerning, but the Rockets might be the only team that you just can't take seriously, ESPECIALLY in a pre-season game. Just laugh it off, especially for the fact that they're coached by D'Antoni.

Rockets have 4 potential 40% 3pt shooters in the starting lineup with the green light to jack up 6-8 threes per game each and COMPLETELY ignore playing on the defensive end. Most teams in the league aren't built like the Rockets and most aren't going to play with as much reckless abandon as them.

Rockets are going to have games were they play like chickens with their heads cut off and will still win games. They will literally give you a layup just so they quickly inbound the ball on the other end and take a quick three. Harden could look worse than he did last year and it won't matter, that's how hilarious I expect them to be.

This is as pure of a D'Antoni team as you can get:
- One point guard who will dominate the ball.
- Three spot up shooters unlikely to dribble the ball much for the point guard to kick it out to on the off-chance he decides not to shoot the ball himself.
- One pick and roll center with no post game who will do all the rebounding and defending for the entire team, and embrace his 10+ ppg/60%+ fg's/10+ rpg/2+ bpg numbers that come as a result of playing at D'Antoni's pace and not necessarily because he's actually that good of a center.

Don't get me wrong though, I expect them to be super entertaining to watch and would pick them any chance I get in NBA2K17.

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Post#492 » by 2010 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:13 pm

Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
That's crazy! Amundson has the goon thing going plus experience with the league and group. Amundson >>>>> Plumlee.

Spoiler:
I liked Plumlee's goon style too. Just trying to make waves. Long time til' next game.


Yes, I feel you bro. Can't wait til Saturday.

I prefer Plumlee cuz he is younger, can finish above the rim, is bigger, and appears stronger too.

I thought he was a waste of a guaranteed deal initially but I didn't realize his strengths until watching him last game. Thought he was the typical white stiff, or Chris Dudley as someone called him. But nah, this cat goes MAD HARD, lol! Dude was playing like he wants to hold off on that Army Reserve commitment as long as possible, lol. Dude was playing for his life, haha. Challenging everything and throwing that retotted man wiry strength around everywhere. This dude has potential to injure Lebron, bro. I'm tellin' ya.


I had the same reaction. I wanted nothing to do with it but he was winning me over. Might be a scrub but he's a straight goon.

Dudley was the same... he just subbed in for Patrick **** Ewing so it was hard to appreciate. Plus, he had the Yale face.


Dudley wasn't as athletic tho. And lmao at "the Yale face" :lol:
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Post#493 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:19 pm

2010 wrote:Dudley wasn't as athletic tho. And lmao at "the Yale face" :lol:


Oh, that's for sure. Plumlee can get up there.
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Post#494 » by K_ick_God » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:19 pm

xNewYorkMadex wrote:I dont have a problem with Melo Iso'ing. Melo was a hell of a passer last season and Im not even criticizing him for that. My problem with him is his efficiency. And we all know how bad he looks in certain games.

Before the Knicks fell off a cliff last season (after the Jan 20th game vs Utah), I counted Melo shooting 40% and below about 18 or 19 times. Thats way too many considering we were still in playoff contention by that time, and im not even the counting the times he shot below 40% after Jan 20th.

Im a fan of Melo, and WANT him to do very well. But he has avoided any huge criticism because in fairness the team around him has been terrible. This season he honestly needs to cut out all the times he shoots below 40%. Even though I dislike this player, Melo needs to follow in the footsteps of Paul Pierce. A couple of years before he paired up with KG, Ray and Rondo, Pierce put up FG% of 40 & 41%. In 2006-07 he shot 43% -just like Melo is right now, the year they formed the big 3 w Rondo he went up to 46%. His percentages went as high as 50% and never went back to to 43% until his last season in Boston when they were pretty much done as a team.

I dont care how many points Melo averages. Maybe he doesnt need to average 19 PPG. I think he can easily bump it back up to 24 PPG. But all Melo needs to focus on is being efficient and doing it consistently. Melo absolutely cannot fall back into shooting below 40% on many nights and act as if it isnt a big deal or act if its "just one of those nights".


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Post#495 » by 2010 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:21 pm

On to other camp battles aside from Plumlee vs. Amundson:

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Post#496 » by K_ick_God » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:22 pm

ctorres wrote:Knicks are fine bruh!

I might have posted this earlier but I couldn't find my post so maybe I didn't. Anyways, Rockets aren't a good measuring stick for the Knicks right now. I know a 30 point blowout might look concerning, but the Rockets might be the only team that you just can't take seriously, ESPECIALLY in a pre-season game. Just laugh it off, especially for the fact that they're coached by D'Antoni.

Rockets have 4 potential 40% 3pt shooters in the starting lineup with the green light to jack up 6-8 threes per game each and COMPLETELY ignore playing on the defensive end. Most teams in the league aren't built like the Rockets and most aren't going to play with as much reckless abandon as them.

Rockets are going to have games were they play like chickens with their heads cut off and will still win games. They will literally give you a layup just so they quickly inbound the ball on the other end and take a quick three. Harden could look worse than he did last year and it won't matter, that's how hilarious I expect them to be.

This is as pure of a D'Antoni team as you can get:
- One point guard who will dominate the ball.
- Three spot up shooters unlikely to dribble the ball much for the point guard to kick it out to on the off-chance he decides not to shoot the ball himself.
- One pick and roll center with no post game who will do all the rebounding and defending for the entire team, and embrace his 10+ ppg/60%+ fg's/10+ rpg/2+ bpg numbers that come as a result of playing at D'Antoni's pace and not necessarily because he's actually that good of a center.

Don't get me wrong though, I expect them to be super entertaining to watch and would pick them any chance I get in NBA2K17.


They could win 57 and still are a pretty safe bet to flame out come playoffs. I'd rather invest in Bernie Madoff than Mike D'Antoni.

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Post#497 » by 2010 » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:26 pm

Capn'O wrote:#neverforget



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Shaq was straight disrespectful to elders lol.

And I assume that slightly crooked face/nose/mouth on a frustrated Dudley is the infamous "Yale face" lol

Do you remember when someone took a swipe at the ball and Dudley's schnowzer got in the way and they broke his nose. It was literally whacked to the side of his face looking like Daffy Duck's bill after getting blasted by Elmer Fudd.
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I wanted to point out this clip from last season because it's another way, to me, to discuss what I expect to see the knicks do this season. The Hawks were literally attempting to force "iso calderon" basically. Fight over every screen or pick because Calderon was never a threat to attack the rim. We couldn't get Melo the ball in part due to the fact that Calderon was not a threat, it was easy to double Melo, Jose would stay on the perimeter anyway. Typically, Rolo also is not a severe threat to score, but more importantly, he wasn't a threat to find cutters because we didn't have guys who cut Hard and fast so for most of this play, the hawks are playing great defense. The knicks do something, pretty much by accident, which is execute a give and go between rolo and calderon. Schroeder relaxed because as most would think "calderon aint cuttin" and then for whatever reason, he did and rolo recognized and made the pass. That play was an ANOMALY for the knicks. We rarely did it because we didn't have the personnel. Replace Calderon with Rose and Rolo with Noah and that becomes a regular occurrence. Noah is elite at passing and finding cutters and rose is always cutting, and doing so with purpose and force.

What guys here need to recognize is that from this simple action, a ton of offense will open up, much of it within the framework and spacing of the triangle. More importantly, ISO Melo becomes a stronger and more effective part of this offense. The ISO wasn't the problem, it was the reliance on it because it was essentially our most effective way to get penetration that was the problem. Melo absolutely needs to continue to post up, call for the ball and do what he does because it keeps the defense honest. What needs to happen in reality is you need players out there strong and confident enough to understand when to look him off. Noah being the elite passer he is, will find Melo. Rose will find Melo. It's just significantly easier if some of those finds, come from action taking place away from Melo. You run that same play above and instead of running over every screen, you're running under to keep rose in front. You're also likely sending 2 guys at him which, if Melo is on the wing as he was above, prevents the cheating double team they employed to deny the pass calderon initially wanted to make. With Rose, Noah, KP, Melo and Lee, the defense is instantly compromised and put in uncomfortable situations. If you focus on stopping the 2 man game between Noah and Rose (which every team in the league already knows is a must to stop due to their time in chicago) or KP and Rose (which you'll want to stop by virtue of KP's game), you're basically choosing to take a chance that Melo won't beat you. As fans, we may be comfortable with that but in the NBA, teams won't be. The same reason teams still send 2 guys to stop rose despite us all believing his knee injury cooked him, is the same reason teams won't just LET Melo have a one-one-one matchup w/o a fight: They're too good.

I say all this because through all the examination of the 1st PRESEASON game, many of us don't actually know the difference between good offense (regardless of whether the shot was made) and bad offense. It's def fair to critique the players and the game but we need to keep in mind what these guys are actually attempting to figure out. They're not looking to give Melo less opportunities to ISO, they're looking to get him EASIER iso opportunities which I saw plenty of in that first game. They're not looking to rely on MVP rose, to score 25ppg, they're looking for him to cut hard and fast, play with speed. We're not asking Noah to score 12ppg, we want him to facilitate from the post or free throw line , screen and roll. The ball doesn't stick because it went to Melo in an iso, it sticks because we're tryin so hard to get him the ball that no one else is moving. I didn't see much of that in that 1st game. Guys were moving, cutting and spacing the floor, we weren't hitting shots and playing 0 defense. We'll look much different later, and if we don't, thats when I'll be willing to write off this team as a non playoff team and this offseason as failure.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#499 » by JohnWillow » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:32 pm

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Rotten Apple wrote:How many times did KP pass the ball on Tuesday? I'll wait


Why you hate so much? I have seen you in the last 10 pages writing a hate comments towards KP because KP ISO (How many ISO did he did in the game? Max 3 there was), but Melo ISO alone gave you in the first quarter TWO offensive fouls (not saying that he does not need to do it, but I would love to see the ball movement like they did in first quarter when Rose drove to the basket and got on him 3 defenders, and he found C-Lee and passed a great pass to him from the three point line with no defender on him, he missed, but that is what I would like to see the Knicks do, play team bball) And btw just rewatched the first quarter KP got the ball in his hand 8 times only and passed it 6 times... isn't that ok? You need to be happy about that KP and Melo is in NY...


So it's hating when it's said about KP? But when it's about Melo it's the opposite. Good to know.

As for ball movement, agreed

As for KP and Melo being in NY I am happy I can call out KP for leaving his man open and slowing the offense down if I want. Guys do it to Melo so I don't see the problem if it's true. Also did you really count the passes? :lol: good job, good effort


I didn't hear you saying at game night about LFT and Kyle leaving open Anderson like 3-4 times when he shoot a tree ball, bigs need to help on Harden after pick n roll, it's gonna happen a lot man, KP was not the only one there. Team overall defense was really bad, it will be better when preseason and season progress.
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Re: PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6 

Post#500 » by Rotten Apple » Thu Oct 6, 2016 7:37 pm

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