Rose found not liable: Update pg. 62

[BKlutch]

The scary thing is without the texts she could have him by the ballz and he'd be facing possible jail time if she put on a convincing performance. Hope he learns from this

I'm sure she also learns from this. Next time, she'll be careful what she texts. Then she'll have a better chance of winning $$$.

[StephNYKurry]

Just a lot of people in this thread waxing poetic who aren't the slightest bit familiar with group sex activity or any understanding of how some people choose to live their lives.

Just because this overblown super left and liberal feminist crap is running rampant, don't let it confuse you from the fact that there are vindictive, scheming, and conniving women in this world. Women are not immune to being of a questionable character. You simply shouldn't be ASSUMED to be of a lesser character because you ARE a woman, but you should still be held accountable for your behavior and reputation. The same way a man should be held accountable for his.

How's that for "feminism?"

[taikibansei]

what do you mean? you posted the tweet saying Rose and his buddies were acting all celebratory after her cross-examination, essentially behaving like frat boy jackasses (which is not far from what they are being accused of). Rose and his friends have to be morons to be acting out in the courtroom like that. The only thing they need to do is sit on their damn hands and zip their stupid mouths and let the process be completed

did you miss the part where his lawyers were involved? rose didn't say anything.

Backslapping, sounds idiotic. I've already wondered if Rose's lawyers are incompetent and holding a victory party in the middle of the courtroom or at least not telling Rose and his pals to zip it and STFU are clearly signs of incompetence.

Rose showed up 40 minutes late. Any competent lawyer would want Rose on lockdown and being as demure as possible.

I agree with you on this. Not actually being there, it's difficult (and probably unfair) to judge...but my first reaction was WTF were they thinking?!

[NYKBaller]

One thing rose did good was getting a good attorney http://schlaw.com/#/ from what I read Lisa cohen and her practice are more than qualified to handle this

[taikibansei]

Y'all ever been in a court room?

You ever been accused of rape and showed up 40 minutes late to your own trial?

Well I was not referencing that but sides celebrate all the time in court rooms Rose did nothing wrong but of course his name is not Porzingis so he's open for verbal attacks on here.

On the first day of a rape trial, sides form victory huddles with backslapping to celebrate "all the time"? WTF?!

None of us were there, so we really can't tell how accurate this description is. But if true...what a moron....

[Carl_Karlson]

You guys gotta mellow out, here´s the live footage of Rose´s Attorney after the cross examination:

[taikibansei]

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I'll be surprised if rose loses this case at this point

She can't recall if she asked him to stop? Can't she even lie now and say she told him to stop? No is No, but if she didn't say no, after all those inviting texts we saw, how is this non-consensual?

As I've posted before, both the plaintiff and the defendant continue to come off as shallow, somewhat mentally challenged individuals. I mean, most of Doe's best "evidence" is stupid stuff Rose said during the deposition. Similarly, Rose's best evidence is Doe's own words, both in emails to friends and now on the stand.

My only remaining worry about this case is if/when Rose testifies. Hopefully he won't say anything stupid again.....

[boomann21]

Rose crazy for that and its not against the law to celebrate in the court room nor can the jury hold that against the defense

Actually when I went to court and won custody of my son, the judge looked me dead in the eye and said there will be no celebrating in my court room. Dont know about Civil court, but they frown on fist pumps and wild facial expressions when one is winning in family court.

[Drun53]

Definitely a good sign for Rose that Doe had a lot of inconsistencies between the deposition and testimony.

I'm just afraid that Rose will say something stupid and the trial will swing back in her favor, since yanno, he doesn't exactly speak well.

[Rotten Apple]

Rose crazy for that and its not against the law to celebrate in the court room nor can the jury hold that against the defense

Actually when I went to court and won custody of my son, the judge looked me dead in the eye and said there will be no celebrating in my court room. Dont know about Civil court, but they frown on fist pumps and wild facial expressions when one is winning in family court.

Depends on the judge of course but in this case I'm sure the reporter would have stated whether the judge was turned off by the celebratory huddle.

[trophywinner]

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I'll be surprised if rose loses this case at this point

She can't recall if she asked him to stop? Can't she even lie now and say she told him to stop? No is No, but if she didn't say no, after all those inviting texts we saw, how is this non-consensual?

As I've posted before, both the plaintiff and the defendant continue to come off as shallow, somewhat mentally challenged individuals. I mean, most of Doe's best "evidence" is stupid stuff Rose said during the deposition. Similarly, Rose's best evidence is Doe's own words, both in emails to friends and now on the stand.

My only remaining worry about this case is if/when Rose testifies. Hopefully he won't say anything stupid again.....

i think the texts are the most damning evidence towards doe. that's really all there is go off of, besides the he said, she said, is the texts. this whole entire time think progress and her attorneys have painted her as this innocent, naive, timid, living under a rock, sexually inexperienced person. but, the texts depict quite the opposite. the texts show that she would initiate rose with extremely sexually suggestive messages "you're the reason why i wake up horny"... texts show she's quite the sexual deviant herself. maybe think progress failed to see these? or more likely just ignored them because they didn't fit the agenda

screenshots of texts: http://imgur.com/a/lSvZz

another thing which the texts should dispute is the claim that they broke into her home. rose's attorney has set up her up pretty well. he's already got her to admit that she's lied multiple times. doe claims rose and his friends broke in, doe lives in an apartment complex, the texts show that she sent rose her address at 2am to come over, but she never texted him her apt number....so rose and friends went door to door, broke into and searched every single apt until they found her lying in her bed, blacked out in her room? defense will tell that doe met them, let them in and led them to her apt.

i agree, only way rose loses this is by him or his friends **** up at the stand by saying some dumb chit. that's where their lawyers have to do their jobs in prep.

[trophywinner]

Thanks man I literally just wanted a source to read for myself. I didn't mean to imply anything lol.

i know, i just found it interesting that her testimony is largely based on her background & personality. being timid, naive, non-sexual, almost prudish. yet her texts to rose show her as a freak, deviant, and vulgar. she's crazy.

She isn't crazy. She is a freak who made a decision to present herself as a timid, naive young woman to win a settlement from a rich BF who didn't give her what she wanted. Her investment was walking out the door. She even had sex with other guys for him, and he still didn't give her what she wanted.

How can she testify about what happened when she says she didn't remember it? Nothing seems to make sense.

Both of them made really poor choices and both got snared by the complications of a very bad relationship. I hope he learns from this.

Obviously, I'm basing this on the evidence we've seen so far. If he had forced her or if evidence showed he had raped her, there would be no excuses and i'd agree he should pay. But so far, nothing presented by the plaintiff has shown this.

i agree. and this would be the quickest open/shut case in a criminal trial. which is why the threat of a criminal investigation/trial was always a joke. it was doe's attorney's sad attempt at scaring rose into settlement a week before trial, and it was the media baiting for clicks. anyone who's read the details knows there's nothing. actually, the only "evidence" there is (texts), disproves the plaintiff's claims.

another thing that was mentioned some pages back is the jury needs to be unanimous for rose to be liable, 8-0.

[madvillian]

Just a lot of people in this thread waxing poetic who aren't the slightest bit familiar with group sex activity or any understanding of how some people choose to live their lives.

Just because this overblown super left and liberal feminist crap is running rampant, don't let it confuse you from the fact that there are vindictive, scheming, and conniving women in this world. Women are not immune to being of a questionable character. You simply shouldn't be ASSUMED to be of a lesser character because you ARE a woman, but you should still be held accountable for your behavior and reputation. The same way a man should be held accountable for his.

How's that for "feminism?"

brave stance...

[madvillian]

Thing is, if she says "yes, I told him to stop": it immediately puts her earlier statements regarding her level of intoxication into question, eg, "How can you recall so clearly this moment when earlier you testified ___________".

It's an obvious but well executed line of questioning by Rose's team.

Honestly I feel bad for her and Rose. Two star crossed people.

[taikibansei]

i think the texts are the most damning evidence towards doe. that's really all there is go off of, besides the he said, she said, is the texts. this whole entire time think progress and her attorneys have painted her as this innocent, naive, timid, living under a rock, sexually inexperienced person. but, the texts depict quite the opposite. the texts show that she would initiate rose with extremely sexually suggestive messages "you're the reason why i wake up horny"... texts show she's quite the sexual deviant herself. maybe think progress failed to see these? or more likely just ignored them because they didn't fit the agenda

screenshots of texts: http://imgur.com/a/lSvZz

another thing which the texts should dispute is the claim that they broke into her home. rose's attorney has set up her up pretty well. he's already got her to admit that she's lied multiple times. doe claims rose and his friends broke in, doe lives in an apartment complex, the texts show that she sent rose her address at 2am to come over, but she never texted him her apt number....so rose and friends went door to door, broke into and searched every single apt until they found her lying in her bed, blacked out in her room? defense will tell that doe met them, let them in and led them to her apt.

i agree, only way rose loses this is by him or his friends **** up at the stand by saying some dumb chit. that's where their lawyers have to do their jobs in prep.

The coverage at Think Progress (and Yahoo Sports) has been horrible from the beginning. Basically, their position throughout has been "Damn ethics, damn neutrality, and damn the evidence--he's a black male, so let's call him guilty."

I'd posted here months ago excerpts from a Chicago Tribune article that highlighted various inconsistencies in her testimony. These inconsistencies were there from the beginning--if not for Rose's own stupidity (the deposition comments and his victory huddle crap in court yesterday being examples), the outcome of this case would not be in question.

No more of this "we men" crap, and no more high fives. He needs to take this seriously--there's a jury of mainly women watching him too.

[MetaKnick13]

Just a lot of people in this thread waxing poetic who aren't the slightest bit familiar with group sex activity or any understanding of how some people choose to live their lives.

Just because this overblown super left and liberal feminist crap is running rampant, don't let it confuse you from the fact that there are vindictive, scheming, and conniving women in this world. Women are not immune to being of a questionable character. You simply shouldn't be ASSUMED to be of a lesser character because you ARE a woman, but you should still be held accountable for your behavior and reputation. The same way a man should be held accountable for his.

How's that for "feminism?"

Beautifully put.

[F N 11]

Damn this is swinging in Rose's favor fast.

[E-Balla]

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I'll be surprised if rose loses this case at this point

She can't recall if she asked him to stop? Can't she even lie now and say she told him to stop? No is No, but if she didn't say no, after all those inviting texts we saw, how is this non-consensual?

As I've posted before, both the plaintiff and the defendant continue to come off as shallow, somewhat mentally challenged individuals. I mean, most of Doe's best "evidence" is stupid stuff Rose said during the deposition. Similarly, Rose's best evidence is Doe's own words, both in emails to friends and now on the stand.

My only remaining worry about this case is if/when Rose testifies. Hopefully he won't say anything stupid again.....

Rose doesn't have to testify. He probably won't. He'll lose his own case because she's winning it for him. On a sidenote Rose's lawyer is hilarious from what I've read about the cross examination.

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I'll be surprised if rose loses this case at this point

She can't recall if she asked him to stop? Can't she even lie now and say she told him to stop? No is No, but if she didn't say no, after all those inviting texts we saw, how is this non-consensual?

Isn't the whole basis of her argument that she was too drunk/drugged to consent, her answers are in line with her story. I have no clue whether he did it or not, but let's hold off on painting her as some lying money grabbing scam artists, Rose's own words put him in an extremely bad light.

[Riot Randolph]

Just a lot of people in this thread waxing poetic who aren't the slightest bit familiar with group sex activity or any understanding of how some people choose to live their lives.

Just because this overblown super left and liberal feminist crap is running rampant, don't let it confuse you from the fact that there are vindictive, scheming, and conniving women in this world. Women are not immune to being of a questionable character. You simply shouldn't be ASSUMED to be of a lesser character because you ARE a woman, but you should still be held accountable for your behavior and reputation. The same way a man should be held accountable for his.

How's that for "feminism?"

i dont think you know what feminism's is...it is not the blind condoning of all females behavior; inversely it is looking for equal treatment...while i agree this rose case is a cash grab to label this as a by product of feminism is just showing your ignorance...