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Jikkle wrote:
Maybe not a certainty that Kap is going to start but if the timing of restructuring the contract would suggest they are at least strongly considering putting Kap in there.
ChrisPozz wrote:ChrisPozz wrote:SOURCES: PONDER HAS SUPPORT IN LOCKER ROOM
http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/sources-ponder-has-support-locker-room/
I'm sure he's had support from the get go but if this is the start of something more than lukewarm team support, it sort of feels like the same kind of situation they found themselves in with Blaine Gabbert last year when players began to rally around him. Similar work ethics, similar personalities, similar leadership traits, etc.. At least to me.
A couple more thoughts.
This brings almost the exact same ceiling that Gabbert gave you, too. IMO. One of the only extra things this does for you if you're the coach or an assistant coach is it gives in to any player calls that you're willing to try something different and not keep ramming your head into the same brick walls.
Unfortunately, it's like I keep saying over and over. If you play Gabbert, the negatives will be like having an awful pain in your arm. If you play Kaepernick, the negatives will be like having an awful pain in your side. If you turn to Ponder for some reason, the negatives will be like having an awful pain in your eye.
It just depends on your pain preference and if you're ready for a different kind of pain for a while.
I can't begin to have an accurate picture of the majority of the positives or negatives each guy gives you but if it's Kaepernick's time again, the most concerning part about all of that other than the injury stuff is his inability almost since day one to take a group of guys and be the ultimate unifying personality and constant of a group despite what your shortcomings are on the field. This is where Gabbert and maybe to a slightly larger extent, Ponder kind of makes up for their shortcomings.
I'm not one of those guys that thinks Kaepernick doesn't work hard. I think at least until he got hurt he always worked hard (plenty of instances of that). I just don't know how smart he works. The types of things he does in close concert with the things he lacks as a passer. That's always been one of my biggest concerns wanting to put up with him over a long term time period, especially since all this garbage happened.
If that's always going to be there with him, and at this point I think it's safe to say he's not changing or just plain can't anymore, I'd rather not even try lining up everything else around him just to see if he can be passable even in a Kelly scheme. On the other hand, if the demand by the players is so high that you have to try something different or else you start to lose your key guys, you may have to take on the different pain for a while and hopefully reset everything at the end of the year (where there may only be one long term hope available AT MOST IMO). If I didn't think so highly of Kelly I probably wouldn't worry about the coach losing anybody but right now, until the FO structure is better, Kelly is about as good of a coach as this structure and owner is going to get IMO.
ChrisPozz wrote:Jason La Canfora:
As part of the Kaepernick restructure, the 49ers are now in line to get a compensatory pick when he signs elsewhere in 2017
NinerSickness wrote:ChrisPozz wrote:Jason La Canfora:
As part of the Kaepernick restructure, the 49ers are now in line to get a compensatory pick when he signs elsewhere in 2017
Did the restructure make the deal end in 2016? Because if they cut him, they don't get a compensatory pick.
thesack12 wrote:Colin Kaepernick has a better career completion percentage, yards per attempt, TD/INT ratio, and QB rating than Andrew Luck.
Am I saying Kaep is a better QB than Luck, no.
My point is that perception shapes a lot of people's opinions on players. The current perception of each of these guys are that Kaepernick sucks and Luck is elite. Looking a little deeper would lead you to believe that Kaep isn't as bad as people think and Luck isn't as good as people think.
CalamityX12 wrote:http://ninernoise.com/2016/10/10/san-francisco-49ers-5-shake-ups-chip-kelly-needs-week-6/
While i understand #4 it still doesnt make sense to me... why force someone injured in for the sake of changing?
Jikkle wrote:CalamityX12 wrote:http://ninernoise.com/2016/10/10/san-francisco-49ers-5-shake-ups-chip-kelly-needs-week-6/
While i understand #4 it still doesnt make sense to me... why force someone injured in for the sake of changing?
#2 for sure #1 at this point I'm split on because the fan in me wants to win and the smarter fan in me wants to lose out the rest of the year to ensure that Baalke is likely gone and they have the #1 or #2 pick which guarantees them Garrett or the best QB in the draft.
#4 to me it's obvious Dorsey would be starting if they felt he could handle the work load but his knee probably is keeping him at limited snaps.
thesack12 wrote:Also, I'm pretty sure Kaep was injured last season as well, but I guess the injury excuse only qualifies for the guy you don't have an agenda against.
