Rose found not liable: Update pg. 62

[Swoosh_Stripes]

Texts from that night, we're limiting it to that now? How about the countless texts where she keeps stating that she's not comfortable with group sex and she only wants to be with him, I guess those don't matter.

As for Rose's actions being normal, please spare me, I know plenty of pro athletes, baseball to be exact (who are the most notorious cheaters in pro sports), not one of them has ever asked for a woman to let them run a train on them. But lets assume this is normal, when asked if she consented and you answer "she was coming to my place at 1AM she knew what was going to happen", that's a bad look and I doubt it plays well in a court.

yup, they don't matter. rose broke off the relationship when he sensed she wasn't completely down with the groupsex thing. he had cut communication. Doe was the one who reached out and opened with





women get train ran on them all the time, wake up. and you should probably read up more on the details, m8. how mad are you right now?

The texts you posted was her telling him she only wants to have sex with him and not his boys, which is what I have been saying all along, so thanks for confirming what I have been saying all along. As for women having trains ran on them I'm well aware that happens, but how does that relate to this case?

By the way, you're confusing being disgusted with anger, like I said from the get go, I don't know if he raped her, but what is being posted here is very primitive thinking about rape and sexuality assault victims. This whole notion that she's a freak so she couldn't be raped is ass backwards.

[trophywinner]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/derrick-rose-rape-accuser-asked-pay-sex-toy-belt-gift-article-1.2821819?cid=bitly

Derrick Rose flipped the script on his rape accuser Friday — testifying she took advantage of him before initiating a steamy poolside threesome.

On the stand for the first time in the civil trial, Rose said the 30-year-old woman texted him she was feeling “horny” before coming over to his Beverly Hills mansion and pouncing on him.

“She came into the room and started to try to grab me, started to try to kiss me, and that's something I'm not used to," the 28-year-old NBA star said. "I just don't like being forced into the issue."

Rose said that shortly after the woman left the room, he looked out of the window and spotted her having poolside sex with his pal and co-defendant Randall Hampton.

Rose said the sight of his friend copulating with his on-again-off-again girlfriend didn’t bother him.

“Our relationship was sexual and it wasn't exclusive," he said.

The defendants’ lawyers also presented numerous text messages that painted the woman in a poor light.

“I need a very wealthy good man. We should go find one,” read one of the texts.

[Newyorknick94]

What does she look like?

[Smash3]

What does she look like?

[CJackson]

Texts from that night, we're limiting it to that now? How about the countless texts where she keeps stating that she's not comfortable with group sex and she only wants to be with him, I guess those don't matter.

As for Rose's actions being normal, please spare me, I know plenty of pro athletes, baseball to be exact (who are the most notorious cheaters in pro sports), not one of them has ever asked for a woman to let them run a train on them. But lets assume this is normal, when asked if she consented and you answer "she was coming to my place at 1AM she knew what was going to happen", that's a bad look and I doubt it plays well in a court.

yup, they don't matter. rose broke off the relationship when he sensed she wasn't completely down with the groupsex thing. he had cut communication. Doe was the one who reached out and opened with





women get train ran on them all the time, wake up. and you should probably read up more on the details, m8. how mad are you right now?

The texts you posted was her telling him she only wants to have sex with him and not his boys, which is what I have been saying all along, so thanks for confirming what I have been saying all along. As for women having trains ran on them I'm well aware that happens, but how does that relate to this case?

By the way, you're confusing being disgusted with anger, like I said from the get go, I don't know if he raped her, but what is being posted here is very primitive thinking about rape and sexuality assault victims. This whole notion that she's a freak so she couldn't be raped is ass backwards.

You are getting righteous without having a full deck it seems unless you feel it is irrelevant the defense has a deposition from a friend of the plaintiff saying she admitted they didn't rape her AND admitting she is doing this because she's broke.

Nothing I hate more than pointing fingers at women who claim they were raped and assuming they are lying, but in this case she seems to be a liar.

We are not cavemen. We are responding to the evidence presented and she looks like a gold digger. Deal with it, but don't make us out to be trogs for being frank about what is going on here.

[Swoosh_Stripes]

yup, they don't matter. rose broke off the relationship when he sensed she wasn't completely down with the groupsex thing. he had cut communication. Doe was the one who reached out and opened with





women get train ran on them all the time, wake up. and you should probably read up more on the details, m8. how mad are you right now?

The texts you posted was her telling him she only wants to have sex with him and not his boys, which is what I have been saying all along, so thanks for confirming what I have been saying all along. As for women having trains ran on them I'm well aware that happens, but how does that relate to this case?

By the way, you're confusing being disgusted with anger, like I said from the get go, I don't know if he raped her, but what is being posted here is very primitive thinking about rape and sexuality assault victims. This whole notion that she's a freak so she couldn't be raped is ass backwards.

You are getting righteous without having a full deck it seems unless you feel it is irrelevant the defense has a deposition from a friend of the plaintiff saying she admitted they didn't rape her AND admitting she is doing this because she's broke.

Nothing I hate more than pointing fingers at women who claim they were raped and assuming they are lying, but in this case she seems to be a liar.

We are not cavemen. We are responding to the evidence presented and she looks like a gold digger. Deal with it, but don't make us out to be trogs for being frank about what is going on here.

I did not know there was a deposition from a friend of the accuser, you are the first one to mention that, all I've read is people bringing up her pasts history as a reason for her not having credibility. Like I said I don't know what happened, I never said that Rose raped her, I just found it disgusting that her not being a shy prude means that she has no credibility.

[CJackson]

The texts you posted was her telling him she only wants to have sex with him and not his boys, which is what I have been saying all along, so thanks for confirming what I have been saying all along. As for women having trains ran on them I'm well aware that happens, but how does that relate to this case?

By the way, you're confusing being disgusted with anger, like I said from the get go, I don't know if he raped her, but what is being posted here is very primitive thinking about rape and sexuality assault victims. This whole notion that she's a freak so she couldn't be raped is ass backwards.

You are getting righteous without having a full deck it seems unless you feel it is irrelevant the defense has a deposition from a friend of the plaintiff saying she admitted they didn't rape her AND admitting she is doing this because she's broke.

Nothing I hate more than pointing fingers at women who claim they were raped and assuming they are lying, but in this case she seems to be a liar.

We are not cavemen. We are responding to the evidence presented and she looks like a gold digger. Deal with it, but don't make us out to be trogs for being frank about what is going on here.

I did not know there was a deposition from a friend of the accuser, you are the first one to mention that, all I've read is people bringing up her pasts history as a reason for her not having credibility. Like I said I don't know what happened, I never said that Rose raped her, I just found it disgusting that her not being a shy prude means that she has no credibility.

Well we've been talking about this for weeks now and you jumped in and made some of your own harsh assumptions about our character. We may make jokes and be naughty critters too, but if you are really paying attention and were up to speed you would realize almost all of the harshest criticisms made of her have been grounded in actual context whereas your comments were not.

For instance, you immediately assumed we are making a case that a woman has to be prim and proper to be believable when she makes a rape accusation. And based on that assumption of yours you proceeded to call us dirtbags.

Now how the heck did you come to that conclusion? Did you literally not even bother to read the past three pages of the thread? Because if you had you would see quite clearly the clarification is about how SHE and HER COUNSEL chose to present her, not us.

I have spent weeks watching this on the sidelines and have said all along nobody will get the absolute truth, but we'll have a very clear idea on what the truth really is. She never went to the police and there is no physical evidence. This is a civil trial, not a criminal trial. Los Angeles LAPD and AG declined to file criminal charges. And there is one, maybe two now, witnesses who know the plaintiff who have given their depositions that she is a liar.

So, no, her being a skank is not proof that she is either honest or lying.

But if you want to play that game, then you have to play it with Rose too who is also a skank.

We're talking about two skanky people here. One of them is lying.

[trophywinner]

I did not know there was a deposition from a friend of the accuser, you are the first one to mention that, all I've read is people bringing up her pasts history as a reason for her not having credibility. Like I said I don't know what happened, I never said that Rose raped her, I just found it disgusting that her not being a shy prude means that she has no credibility.

bro i did tell you to read more on the details, didn't i?

and mind blown at how some are just completely missing the point of the defense attorneys presenting evidence of her lifestyle in court. credibility is near everything in a lot of cases, especially in one's where there is absolutely no evidence incriminating the defendant. such as this one.

her attorneys and think progress throughout have projected her as one thing, yet her actions (party lifestyle, goals to find and marry a wealth man, sexual relationships with pro athletes) suggest the contrary. so how the hell is a jury supposed to believe someone who claims she's one thing, but is out doing the complete opposite? someone who tried to con rose for money by fabricating a story about going to a sex store and buying a toy? that's why it's important for rose's defense that they can bring up nick young, her trips to vegas, drug abuse, etc.

if her attorneys and thinkprogress had never painted her as shy, prude, naive, lacking real world experience, lives under a rock, "she didn't know better", "rose took advantage of her" this wouldn't be a big deal. her attorneys have lied & portrayed her to the media as something she's clearly not, to further help her case and damage rose. thank god for nick young.

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

Roses lawyer asks judge for a mistrial....

[trophywinner]

Doe hid a text. she got mad at rose for not having sex with her friend. rose's attorney asks mistrial.

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[Knicksfan1992]

Doe hid a text. she got mad at rose for not having sex with her friend. rose's attorney asks mistrial.

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Yup all of her credibility just went flying out the window. I knew it was fishy that she could only get a real estate lawyer to take this case. After the Think Progress article it just seemed too slanted in her favor to have all criminal lawyers and lawyers in this field pass up on it. I knew there had to be some things missing.

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[trophywinner]

Yup all of her credibility just went flying out the window. I knew it was fishy that she could only get a real estate lawyer to take this case. After the Think Progress article it just seemed too slanted in her favor to have all criminal lawyers and lawyers in this field pass up on it. I knew there had to be some things missing.

inb4 "b-but just because there's proof now that she is hiding crucial evidence damning her entire case doesn't mean she wasn't raped"

lol, seriously man can't make this crap up. some people..

[Phish Tank]

Rose better skip the game on Monday. He can close this trial out on Tuesday

[Swoosh_Stripes]

Well we've been talking about this for weeks now and you jumped in and made some of your own harsh assumptions about our character. We may make jokes and be naughty critters too, but if you are really paying attention and were up to speed you would realize almost all of the harshest criticisms made of her have been grounded in actual context whereas your comments were not.

For instance, you immediately assumed we are making a case that a woman has to be prim and proper to be believable when she makes a rape accusation.

I made no assumptions, I responded to what I read, in some cases people were saying her being with other guys ruined her credibility.

And based on that assumption of yours you proceeded to call us dirtbags.

Show me where I called you a dirtbag, talk about sensitive, what you're attributing to me is in you mind and that's on you not me.

Now how the heck did you come to that conclusion? Did you literally not even bother to read the past three pages of the thread? Because if you had you would see quite clearly the clarification is about how SHE and HER COUNSEL chose to present her, not us.

Ok, her counsel chose to present her that way and she is not shy or a prude, does that change anything? Promiscuous women can be/are raped and often times women do try to hide their sexual history because of the stigma.

So, no, her being a skank is not proof that she is either honest or lying.

But if you want to play that game, then you have to play it with Rose too who is also a skank.

We're talking about two skanky people here. One of them is lying.

I have given Rose the same consideration I have given her, everything I said about Rose revolves around his own comments which make him come across as an unsympathetic to put it mildly.

[CJackson]

Well we've been talking about this for weeks now and you jumped in and made some of your own harsh assumptions about our character. We may make jokes and be naughty critters too, but if you are really paying attention and were up to speed you would realize almost all of the harshest criticisms made of her have been grounded in actual context whereas your comments were not.

For instance, you immediately assumed we are making a case that a woman has to be prim and proper to be believable when she makes a rape accusation.

I made no assumptions, I responded to what I read, in some cases people were saying her being with other guys ruined her credibility.

And based on that assumption of yours you proceeded to call us dirtbags.

Show me where I called you a dirtbag, talk about sensitive, what you're attributing to me is in you mind and that's on you not me.

Now how the heck did you come to that conclusion? Did you literally not even bother to read the past three pages of the thread? Because if you had you would see quite clearly the clarification is about how SHE and HER COUNSEL chose to present her, not us.

Ok, her counsel chose to present her that way and she is not shy or a prude, does that change anything? Promiscuous women can be/are raped and often times women do try to hide their sexual history because of the stigma.

So, no, her being a skank is not proof that she is either honest or lying.

But if you want to play that game, then you have to play it with Rose too who is also a skank.

We're talking about two skanky people here. One of them is lying.

I have given Rose the same consideration I have given her, everything I said about Rose revolves around his own comments which make him come across as an unsympathetic to put it mildly.

It is the first post on this page. You wrote:

"I don't know if he raped her, but what is being posted here is very primitive thinking about rape and sexuality assault victims. This whole notion that she's a freak so she couldn't be raped is ass backwards."

I'm not being sensitive. I was pointing out how you were uninformed and without context and casting aspersions on people posting here.

Making an assessment that she is FOS is not being primitive, it is called realism.

[Drun53]

Does a mistrial mean the case is thrown out entirely, or just delayed?

[trophywinner]

Well we've been talking about this for weeks now and you jumped in and made some of your own harsh assumptions about our character. We may make jokes and be naughty critters too, but if you are really paying attention and were up to speed you would realize almost all of the harshest criticisms made of her have been grounded in actual context whereas your comments were not.

For instance, you immediately assumed we are making a case that a woman has to be prim and proper to be believable when she makes a rape accusation.

I made no assumptions, I responded to what I read, in some cases people were saying her being with other guys ruined her credibility.

it does ruin her credibility. this entire time, from her pre-trial media tour & thinkprogress crusade, she was portrayed to the public as being naive, sexually inexperienced, prude, very timid etc..someone reading that description may think "wow, no way would a person like that ever consent to groupsex", and get the impression that she's someone not capable of doing freaky stuff like that.

But, her lifestyle and background say different. parties, drugs, sexual relations with multiple nba'ers, texts about her wanting to trap a wealthy man, etc. As a jury how are you going to believe someone who says one thing, but is shown to do the complete opposite. Actions > Words. Had her attorneys been upfront about her lifestyle and not try to make up some facade, we wouldn't be talking about this.

this whole thing is proving to 100% be a sham now with the news that she withheld texts/critical info that effectively harm her case. if this goes to mistrial, she will drop it. no lawyer will go anywhere near this case.

[CJackson]

Does a mistrial mean the case is thrown out entirely, or just delayed?

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[BKlutch]

Does a mistrial mean the case is thrown out entirely, or just delayed?

It means this trial is over and they have to start again from the beginning. Given all that has happened, and the fact that Rose can reveal that she hid a text message, means that the next risk would be harder for her. I think they believe her attorneys see the writing in the wall and will not be foolish enough to seek a second trial. Or they will settle for peanuts. I'm thinking this is worth about $3.49 to settle at this point.