Clippers using Biometrics sports system to determine who plays

[OkcSinceSGA]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-sp-clippers-report-20161007-snap-story,amp.html?client=ms-android-att-us

http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/682133686/sports-biometrics-makes-waves-in-the-nba

Pretty high tech and controversial. Doc Rivers said today that he will NOT challenge the guy leading the Clippers new Biometric analysis department regarding sitting guys or not. If the data says a player's body needs rest or is taking on too much of a load he will DNP them.

This is really interesting IMO. JJ Redick said it's a double edged sword that he's weary of after being forced to sit 2nd preseason game. Do you guys see the benefit of this? Is it a bad idea in your view?

This program can assess injury risk on a daily basis and accumulative body fatigue etc. Seems like the next evolution in sports.


"According to a recent study by Rotowire, the average NBA team hemorrhages about $10 million in guaranteed salary from games missed due to injury alone.

Using micro sensors to gather biometrics data such as heart rate, body temperature, analysis of blood samples from players, to measure endurance and exhaustion limits of each player, and even using motion capture videos to analyze human movement in-game, sports biometrics has come into its own as a highly advanced method for managing player performance during the NBA season.


Included as part of the team's training staff, individual player health data is gathered via medical testing, and non-invasive body patch sensors (measuring heart rate) to build a database that could be reviewed then prescriptive solutions are given for each player to allow them optimal rest and movement training. Algorithms could be generated from each players' health data to provide the best pre-emptive treatment profiles. To prevent injuries from being aggravated, avoid burn out due to exhaustion, improve nutrition regimens, and let players play their best.

The new, miniaturized technology is there to guide a player's sleeping habits, record his physical movements, appraise his diet and test his blood is now one of the most amazing wonders of medical science and biotechnology."

[AkelaLoneWolf]

just in time to get us the better clippers pick for next year.

[OkcSinceSGA]

just in time to get us the better clippers pick for next year.

Imagine if this costs Redick like 50 games due to his "work load" and injury prone ways. It's seriously something to discuss (especially if other teams start doing this to save money).

[TinmanZBoy]

haha... it will be hilarious to see the red light on CP3 with a playoff game 7 on the line...

[og15]

I'm assuming Doc will abandon this in the post-season

[Goudelock]

I didn't know that Chip Kelly coaches the Clippers.

[OkcSinceSGA]

I'm assuming Doc will abandon this in the post-season

He said he's going to take it as Dr orders basically but I'm sure in game 7 of the playoffs or a tied series he may back off this as you said.

[OkcSinceSGA]

I didn't know that Chip Kelly coaches the Clippers.

I don't watch football anymore. Did it seem to help at all? At this point I just want the team to stop constantly getting injured.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

just in time to get us the better clippers pick for next year.

Imagine if this costs Redick like 50 games due to his "work load" and injury prone ways. It's seriously something to discuss (especially if other teams start doing this to save money).

I'm not sure there's any program out there that can micromanage someone's health. Any attempt to categorize players in with these criteria will backfire spectacularly.
And If Doc wants to give up Redick to the Raps for a second round pick, I'm all game.

[Reeko]

Conversation between Doc and Chris Paul

Doc: Chris the machine says you need to rest..

CP: Man **** that machine!

[Roscoe Sheed]

They do have a deep bench especially at the guard positions. Up front isn't bad either with Speights, Bass, and Johnson. It would probably be best to give the bench guys some substantial minutes. jj and cp3 are both over 30

[Dynamix]

Someone needs to rig that machine when it comes to Jamal.

[prech]

Sounds very similar to the monitors GSW have been using last few years, albeit not allowed during games, but during practice/D-League.

Imagine LAC will have scheduled losses as a result, with Redick, Paul, and the other older guys being "forced" to rest, perhaps more, than last season. Who knows, maybe will result in fewer games lost to injury

[og15]

I'm assuming Doc will abandon this in the post-season

He said he's going to take it as Dr orders basically but I'm sure in game 7 of the playoffs or a tied series he may back off this as you said.

There are no imminent future games to protect players from if you lose those games, so I think that would be the exception

[Devils Advocate]

This is stupid... hope they move on from this fast.

[Slava]

Gary Vitti and the Lakers actually adapted something like this last season, which prompted them to sit Kobe for a bunch of games. It worked out well considering they were among the league leaders in least games missed by players due to injuries. If it pays similar dividends for the Clippers, that would go a long way towards keeping their entire roster healthy for a full season.

[Winsome Gerbil]

The new, miniaturized technology is there to guide a player's sleeping habits, record his physical movements, appraise his diet and test his blood is now one of the most amazing wonders of medical science and biotechnology."[/i]

Yeah...no.

If I am a player I tell them to stick Big Medical Brother right where the sun don't shine.

[qm22]

This seems cool, but I wonder about it's readiness or precision. If it is just going to more aggressively monitor players for early red flags, it's very reasonable, but if it wants to calculate a precise optimum time to rest, I expect it's performance is problematic. Is there any big data source to train this advice? I also wonder about the ability to advise precisely when most NBA players are outliers and there is a lack of ways to optimize. It seems more experimental, which seems still cool, because they will probably err on the safe side. Mostly, anyway. I'd expect this type of analysis to insist on resting LeBron heavily in 2008-2012, and that would have been a disaster. I'd also expect it would have given more rest to Blake Griffin the past few years, which would have been great for the Clips in the POs...

Hopefully someone can fill me in if I'm wrong about it being overstated. (I can't access the articles from my current location...) Statements from the quoted article like " sports biometrics has come into its own as a highly advanced method for managing player performance during the NBA season." seem like hype. How has it "come into its own" when it seems new to the NBA? Unless that is now a journalistic phrase to indicate "being used".

I read earlier that the Clippers had guest advisers from Stanford (IIRC) to talk about improving sleep. A simple thing like that could be quite beneficial, so, most likely, the increased monitoring will be beneficial, potentially very much IMO.

Also- questionable to say an average loss of $10 mil due to injury from the sound of that. If it was calculated from salary*fraction-of-games-played, it would be a quite roughshod analysis since teams won't lose revenue from an average player's occasional missed games.

[YogurtProducer]

The new, miniaturized technology is there to guide a player's sleeping habits, record his physical movements, appraise his diet and test his blood is now one of the most amazing wonders of medical science and biotechnology."[/i]

Yeah...no.

If I am a player I tell them to stick Big Medical Brother right where the sun don't shine.

And they will remind you that you get paid millions to play basketball and they will tell you to shut the **** up

[Warriorfan]

Does it measure mental fatigue and focus.