Can Trump wiggle out of this one?

[KingDavid]

The President can bypass congress by executive order something Obama has done more the all the presidents combined....pretty much what a dictator would do.

To abolish an amendment?

Congress may overturn an Executive order by a two-thirds vote. The United States Supreme Court can declare that an Executive order is unconstitutional and unenforceable. Additionally, a subsequent president can reverse an Executive order.

So knowing that Congress would likely never, ever allow a repeal of the 2nd amendment to pass, why is that a big deal?

The next President gets to pick the next 3 Supreme court justices and if Clinton is elected its a given they will be against the 2nd amendment because she is.

So what? Congress alone can overturn any executive order by a 2/3rds vote. The supreme court can deem an EXECUTIVE ORDER unconstitutional and unenforceable. Not the other way around.

An executive order to repeal the second amendment would never get past congress.

[CJackson]

Amazing that there is a significant portion of the population babbling about losing their right to bear arms as if Clinton is going to do that

You don't need to change the constitution to not sell guns to people on the terrorist watch list, people released from mental institutions or to institute 48 hour background checks. It is just pure silliness all of this babbling about repealing amendments.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Ignorance is bliss (and apparently way more harmful than I ever thought before). Also, we don't need guns. It's never gonna happen, and I'm sure many will disagree, but I'm fully against allowing citizens to have guns. If they are allowed, there should be an incredibly thorough backround check.

[N Y K]

Ignorance is bliss (and apparently way more harmful than I ever thought before). Also, we don't need guns. It's never gonna happen, and I'm sure many will disagree, but I'm fully against allowing citizens to have guns. If they are allowed, there should be an incredibly thorough backround check.

and only a select number of allowable firearm types...

[BKlutch]

Why do you feel sorry for me???Trump said pussy end of the world Clintons have killed people robbed people and committed treason by allowing top secret emails thru a private server and collecting the money from her charity....and you feel sorry for me????Do you know how close we are to war with Russia?No am sure you don't because that main stream media is not reporting on it....kinda strange don't you think??

Years ago, when Hillary first spoke of a vast, right-wing conspiracy, I never thought that if she'd only added the words, "of lunatics," that it was absolutely true.

WTF are you talking about.You have to start throwing out names??These aren't conspiracy as much as you want them to be...The Clintons are crooks and should be in jail.

hehe, just mention what she said about the right wing (lunatic) conspiracy, and they come out of the woodwork.

[DrCoach]

I miss Obama already

[Knicks_Fan2]

Could be the end of the GOP...

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[GONYK]

Could be the end of the GOP...

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It would be sad if true. The American political system needs both parties to be strong and viable, to keep each other innovative and on their toes.

At the same time, the GOP did this to themselves, so I can't really shed too many tears.

[DrCoach]

^^^^No, Trump said " I can grab a woman by her Pussy, I can do anything, because I'm famous"

Totally different , it not about the word

Yeah and he was obviously exaggerating . Come on now. Unless you think he actually grabs women by their pussies, ha. He's a rich and famous billionaire my friend. Any NBA player will tell you how easy it is when it comes to women. KP could grab any pussy he wants in NYC lol. Be real. The only people who care about this are people who weren't voting for Trump anyway and just want to act all offended. The Knick RealGM forum of all places wants to get on their high horse, which is cute.

All Hillary has is stupid stuff like this on Trump that he said decades ago. The Miss Universe thing was pathetic too when you figured out how messed up that woman was/is. How she married a cartel drug lord, drove the getaway car in a murder attempt, threatened a judge, lied about Trump causing her eating disorder when she had it years before, and how Trump saved her job after she gained 60 pounds. Yet that was all over the news for weeks, just like this will, while Trump has real crimes and quotes against Hillary that heavily affect(ed) our lives.

BTW... I thought this place wasn't allowing political threads? Shall I start a new one with all of the wikileaks that actually matter? Hmm.

No, he wasn't, he's obviously done it before. He has been accused a groping women before, there is even a rumour about a rare case.

And you are bring hypocritical by saying he is exaggerating and in the same breath saying any rich guy can do it .

And wrong again, high ranking Republicans have condemned him and cancelled events with him

[Rasho Brezec]

If Hillary is able to claim pneumonia makes her pass out in public and remain unaffected by tons of her dirt exposed by Wikileaks every day, then Trump should get away with this. There's something wrong with people who claim moral superiority because offensive vocabulary is more important to fight against than actual harmful decision making that affects others.

[GONYK]

Why are people in this thread saying that Trump's only crimes are that he says mean things?

- His business is indebted to foreign criminals
- He may have used his charity's funds in illegal ways
- He broke the US embargo with Cuba
- He was accused by his first wife of rape
- He was sued for discriminatory practices
- He may have bribed public officials

So really, people have more reasons to dislike him other than the "mainstream media" focusing on his inarticulate moments.

[KNIXFAN_83]

This will not change anyone's mind. In fact people have to understand the dynamics. He never was truly a republican candidate. He just ran in the party. He's to extreme to be a republican. So he's proved that his following is stronger then the entire GOP. The country is starting to be divided up into separate movements. Who ever liked him from day one still does and he's gained followers along the way.

Also I find it comical that the Republican Party is up in arms over this tape and everyone for that manner. If you weren't screaming apology and drop from the ticket with build a wall your part of the problem. Trump has been disrespectful to multiple groups and at no time did he ever apologize. In fact it was often justified. People who couldn't see this from the beginning can't be for human rights. You have to support all not just pick and choose because it's only relative to your own argument.


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[Knicks_Fan2]

Why are people in this thread saying that Trump's only crimes are that he says mean things?

- His business is indebted to foreign criminals
- He may have used his charity's funds in illegal ways
- He broke the US embargo with Cuba
- He was accused by his first wife of rape
- He was sued for discriminatory practices
- He may have bribed public officials

So really, people have more reasons to dislike him other than the "mainstream media" focusing on his inarticulate moments.

So many more to add as well, including proposing the banning of an entire religion from entering this country.

[Knicks_Fan2]

This will not change anyone's mind. In fact people have to understand the dynamics. He never was truly a republican candidate. He just ran in the party. He's to extreme to be a republican. So he's proved that his following is stronger then the entire GOP. The country is starting to be divided up into separate movements. Who ever liked him from day one still does and he's gained followers along the way.

Also I find it comical that the Republican Party is up in arms over this tape and everyone for that manner. If you weren't screaming apology and drop from the ticket with build a wall your part of the problem. Trump has been disrespectful to multiple groups and at no time did he ever apologize. In fact it was often justified. People who couldn't see this from the beginning can't be for human rights. You have to support all not just pick and choose because it's only relative to your own argument.


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You're delusional if you think this, whether it should or not given what was already out there, will not change anyone's mind. The voters at issue for Trump are those that did not want to vote for him but reluctantly decided to because it was for the good of the party, not hardcore trump supporters; they will obviously still vote for him.

[BKlutch]

Could be the end of the GOP...

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It would be sad if true. The American political system needs both parties to be strong and viable, to keep each other innovative and on their toes.

At the same time, the GOP did this to themselves, so I can't really shed too many tears.

You're right and you're wrong. Where you're right is we DO need both parties -- without a viable alternative, the part in power gets fat and complacent, and probably corrupt. But Trump killing the GOP is exactly what it needed. It has been a coalition of principled conservatives, right wing Christians, the Tea baggers, and the undereducated rural Red state dwellers. Add in a flavor of KKK and other extremists, and it's really not viable. The only way they could assert their power was to shut down the government and oppose Obama on everything he did.

Let their party do a complete rebuild, and it might add some good ideas to the mix. There is also a possibility that the upcoming changes in the part could cause a realignment of groups in the way that Nixon's souther strategy realigned the previous Democratic coalition. Since so many of us have been unhappy with politics, let's see if something better can come of all this. But whatever it is, nobody needs a pedophilic mysogynist racist demagogue, even if he does have the most perfectly orange skin.

[BKlutch]

Why are people in this thread saying that Trump's only crimes are that he says mean things?

- His business is indebted to foreign criminals
- He may have used his charity's funds in illegal ways
- He broke the US embargo with Cuba
- He was accused by his first wife of rape
- He was sued for discriminatory practices
- He may have bribed public officials

So really, people have more reasons to dislike him other than the "mainstream media" focusing on his inarticulate moments.

And going up to non-consenting women and kissing them, tic-tac or not, and grabbing their genitals is exactly sexual assault. A number of women have already filed complaints about this, and cases are pending.

[HarthorneWingo]

Amazing that there is a significant portion of the population babbling about losing their right to bear arms as if Clinton is going to do that

You don't need to change the constitution to not sell guns to people on the terrorist watch list, people released from mental institutions or to institute 48 hour background checks. It is just pure silliness all of this babbling about repealing amendments.

It's so ironic that the pro-gun rights supporters who cling to the 2nd Amendment are also "originalist" interpreters of the Constitution. So I say, let them have up to 5 muskets per person so long as you register your weapons, go for yearly training and take out a policy of insurance covering the owner for accidental and catastrophic injuries and property damage. The muskets would have to be of a type/model that was manufactured around the time of the signing of the 2nd Amendment into law.

[thebuzzardman]

Could be the end of the GOP...

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It would be sad if true. The American political system needs both parties to be strong and viable, to keep each other innovative and on their toes.

At the same time, the GOP did this to themselves, so I can't really shed too many tears.

You're right and you're wrong. Where you're right is we DO need both parties -- without a viable alternative, the part in power gets fat and complacent, and probably corrupt. But Trump killing the GOP is exactly what it needed. It has been a coalition of principled conservatives, right wing Christians, the Tea baggers, and the undereducated rural Red state dwellers. Add in a flavor of KKK and other extremists, and it's really not viable. The only way they could assert their power was to shut down the government and oppose Obama on everything he did.

Let their party do a complete rebuild, and it might add some good ideas to the mix. There is also a possibility that the upcoming changes in the part could cause a realignment of groups in the way that Nixon's souther strategy realigned the previous Democratic coalition. Since so many of us have been unhappy with politics, let's see if something better can come of all this. But whatever it is, nobody needs a pedophilic mysogynist racist demagogue, even if he does have the most perfectly orange skin.

Except there is really only one party now anyway

[HarthorneWingo]

Could be the end of the GOP...

Read on Twitter

It would be sad if true. The American political system needs both parties to be strong and viable, to keep each other innovative and on their toes.

At the same time, the GOP did this to themselves, so I can't really shed too many tears.

You're right and you're wrong. Where you're right is we DO need both parties -- without a viable alternative, the part in power gets fat and complacent, and probably corrupt. But Trump killing the GOP is exactly what it needed. It has been a coalition of principled conservatives, right wing Christians, the Tea baggers, and the undereducated rural Red state dwellers. Add in a flavor of KKK and other extremists, and it's really not viable. The only way they could assert their power was to shut down the government and oppose Obama on everything he did.

Let their party do a complete rebuild, and it might add some good ideas to the mix. There is also a possibility that the upcoming changes in the part could cause a realignment of groups in the way that Nixon's souther strategy realigned the previous Democratic coalition. Since so many of us have been unhappy with politics, let's see if something better can come of all this. But whatever it is, nobody needs a pedophilic mysogynist racist demagogue, even if he does have the most perfectly orange skin.

I say the republican party did this to themselves. Trump is an extension of what that party has been brewing for the past 15 years at least. Some would argue, reasonably, that it goes back to Reagan and his "states rights" agenda. The republican party, as a party, never put the brakes on this movement when it started. Rather, it fed that fire.

[CJackson]

After Trump, Giuliani is one the biggest tools on the planet. Saying this is about the outsiders vs. the insiders totally validates the psychological profile of Trump I wrote up today. These are trivial people fighting the sand castles in their own minds.