Can Trump wiggle out of this one?
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The old guard/Northeast Republicans do not have a voice anymore. They are just the group that funds the GOP these days. I wouldn't say it was the old guards looking for rural rednecks, bible thumpers, teabaggers and racists. It was more of an arranged marriage for the GOP since Lyndon Johnson. Republicans didn't have anywhere to go, they just started pulling further to the crazy rights as time went on.
Today's Republicans are not the Republicans from the 50s or 60s or even the 80s. These Republicans wants to win at all cost and are willing to destroy half of America to get it. There is no such thing as compromise for the greater good anymore. It's my way or the highway.
And that's why I can't talk to today's so called Republicans. They feel that everything is corrupted, country has gone down the **** and does not care to educate themselves. I don't see how the Old Guard Republicans can just leave that brand. Maybe the bible thumpers and those ilk will break away from the Republicans.
Today's Republicans are not the Republicans from the 50s or 60s or even the 80s. These Republicans wants to win at all cost and are willing to destroy half of America to get it. There is no such thing as compromise for the greater good anymore. It's my way or the highway.
And that's why I can't talk to today's so called Republicans. They feel that everything is corrupted, country has gone down the **** and does not care to educate themselves. I don't see how the Old Guard Republicans can just leave that brand. Maybe the bible thumpers and those ilk will break away from the Republicans.
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I find it laughable that these GOPs are jumping ship NOW. How many blunders and scandals did it take for them to finally jump off that boat?! Liberals should always remind the GOPers that supported Trump's campaign. How could we trust you with the country when you couldn't even figure out that Trump is a textbook sociopath.
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Jeffrey wrote:I find it laughable that these GOPs are jumping ship NOW. How many blunders and scandals did it take for them to finally jump off that boat?! Liberals should always remind the GOPers that supported Trump's campaign. How could we trust you with the country when you couldn't even figure out that Trump is a textbook sociopath.
What is surprising about it?
It is purely proof of their self-interest at work. They rode the fence on Trump until they fell to one side or another. Now they are on the other side of the fence from Trump.
I never voted Republican, but I lost even more respect for McCain (picking Palin was certainly another bad moment) when he grudgingly supported Trump out of zero conviction. The punk insulted you like nobody ever has and any person who has reverence for military service who delusionally speaks of Trump as someone who supports our troops is so FOS I can't believe anything they say.
So McCain running in the other direction as soon as his overlords in the GOP say let's bail is almost comical.
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Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
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This is actually terrible for the GOP because there will be people now who will still vote for Trump but are pissed off at the other congressional candidates who are disavowing him.
The irony of this was unforeseeable probably, but the GOP abandoning Trump may backfire once more and hand the Senate to the democrats because those Trump voters may pull the lever for Trump and decline to vote for other candidates in protest.
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Not a Trump fan, but find it funny how this blows up into a huge issue in the media yet all of the corrupt nonsense Hillary is involved in just gets swept under the rug. It's sickening, the media doesn't even try to be fair and balanced anymore.
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mrcalzone wrote:Not a Trump fan, but find it funny how this blows up into a huge issue in the media yet all of the corrupt nonsense Hillary is involved in just gets swept under the rug. It's sickening, the media doesn't even try to be fair and balanced anymore.
There has been no more heavily scrutinized politician in this century than Hillary Clinton
The scrutiny on Trump has only just begun so get used to it. After the election, he will be under investigation or continue to be on trial for numerous illegal actions including bribing politicians, paying himself out of moneys donated to charity, using his non-profit foundation to launder money, breaking the Cuban embargo, Trump University and rape allegations that may still be prosecuted.
She's dealt with everything that has come her way. Now he has to deal with it too. His sleaze far exceeds her, yet she's been under attack for two decades so give him some time to catch up with dealing with that kind of scrutiny and we'll see who is still standing in two years.
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CJackson wrote:mrcalzone wrote:Not a Trump fan, but find it funny how this blows up into a huge issue in the media yet all of the corrupt nonsense Hillary is involved in just gets swept under the rug. It's sickening, the media doesn't even try to be fair and balanced anymore.
There has been no more heavily scrutinized politician in this century than Hillary Clinton
The scrutiny on Trump has only just begun so get used to it. After the election, he will be under investigation or continue to be on trial for numerous illegal actions including bribing politicians, paying himself out of moneys donated to charity, using his non-profit foundation to launder money, breaking the Cuban embargo, Trump University and rape allegations that may still be prosecuted.
She's dealt with everything that has come her way. Now he has to deal with it too. His sleaze far exceeds her, yet she's been under attack for two decades so give him some time to catch up with dealing with that kind of scrutiny and we'll see who is still standing in two years.
We probably know more about Hillary Clinton than we have ever known about any politician running for President
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GONYK wrote:Why are people in this thread saying that Trump's only crimes are that he says mean things?
Don't know about you, but my countrymen lived in a country where "saying mean things" was a crime and entire generations of once affluent and educated people were forced to emigrate because of it. That is, if they were lucky they didn't end up in a labour camp or in some mass grave in the woods or mineshafts before.

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I have noticed the common defense of Trump is to deflect to some other thing, as in Billy and his interns. Both of them are punks, but they need to take ownership for what Trump actually said/did and stop with the "But Bill.....!" nonsense.
Of course that is simply their defense mechanism because supporting Trump puts you in a position to defend the indefensible.
Of course that is simply their defense mechanism because supporting Trump puts you in a position to defend the indefensible.

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CJackson wrote:aj49689 wrote:Every time I turn the TV on, its crazy how the media is so biases. It constantly seems like they are grouping race's of people in a category of expectancy on who to vote for. HILLARY this HILLARY that, oh and once in a while a trump supporter. I run into thousands of people who speak their mind and not many of them like Hillary. Trump fills stadium's while Hillary had high school GYM's half way filled. When you listen to people about why they are voting for Hillary, its for all the wrong reasons. Its clear that America has been breeding morons, do I dare say that? In real life, I am not part of the crowd, I stand alone most of the time. Its clear that Trump is more intelligent then Hillary and she needs all the help she can get to cheat her way to the top. Electing her is like having a crack head mom that would sell you up the river when she comes down.
I don't care if you support Trump, but that is the silliest thing to say
You always stand inverted to what I say, no surprise. I'm not biases when I say that, and I am not alone when I say it either.
If you want, to destroy my sweater. Pull this "Thread" as I walk away.
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Ignitowsky wrote:aj49689 wrote:Knickerbock wrote:I can't really understand all these people... They point out every flaw possible of an opponent, but are oblivious to the glaring problems of their own candidate. These people are not necessarily unintelligent, but there is a problem with how they think. You cannot have an intellectual debate with these people.
Isn't it crazy how much a simple conversation can supposedly change the out come of an election which is based on nothing really all that important? I still think what trump said is no big deal compared to leaked classified information and other such things. It shocking, and I agree about how they go about these debates.
I guess being racist/racist/misogynistic/xenophobe pales in comparison to supposed crimes that were committed yet didn't meet any legal threshold for an indictment at any level.
What ever you say, while your at it, slap a racist on everyone that has said similar things and there you go, everyone is racist.
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aj49689 wrote:CJackson wrote:aj49689 wrote:Every time I turn the TV on, its crazy how the media is so biases. It constantly seems like they are grouping race's of people in a category of expectancy on who to vote for. HILLARY this HILLARY that, oh and once in a while a trump supporter. I run into thousands of people who speak their mind and not many of them like Hillary. Trump fills stadium's while Hillary had high school GYM's half way filled. When you listen to people about why they are voting for Hillary, its for all the wrong reasons. Its clear that America has been breeding morons, do I dare say that? In real life, I am not part of the crowd, I stand alone most of the time. Its clear that Trump is more intelligent then Hillary and she needs all the help she can get to cheat her way to the top. Electing her is like having a crack head mom that would sell you up the river when she comes down.
I don't care if you support Trump, but that is the silliest thing to say
You always stand inverted to what I say, no surprise. I'm not biases when I say that, and I am not alone when I say it either.
aj49689 wrote:Ignitowsky wrote:aj49689 wrote:
Isn't it crazy how much a simple conversation can supposedly change the out come of an election which is based on nothing really all that important? I still think what trump said is no big deal compared to leaked classified information and other such things. It shocking, and I agree about how they go about these debates.
I guess being racist/racist/misogynistic/xenophobe pales in comparison to supposed crimes that were committed yet didn't meet any legal threshold for an indictment at any level.
What ever you say, while your at it, slap a racist on everyone that has said similar things and there you go, everyone is racist.
There's so much irony between your post and the demographic of his supporters. Bad grammar...
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republican party is **** -ed. It's going to be really interesting to see where it ends up after this charade of a election is all over.
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Knicks_Fan2 wrote:KNIXFAN_83 wrote:This will not change anyone's mind. In fact people have to understand the dynamics. He never was truly a republican candidate. He just ran in the party. He's to extreme to be a republican. So he's proved that his following is stronger then the entire GOP. The country is starting to be divided up into separate movements. Who ever liked him from day one still does and he's gained followers along the way.
Also I find it comical that the Republican Party is up in arms over this tape and everyone for that manner. If you weren't screaming apology and drop from the ticket with build a wall your part of the problem. Trump has been disrespectful to multiple groups and at no time did he ever apologize. In fact it was often justified. People who couldn't see this from the beginning can't be for human rights. You have to support all not just pick and choose because it's only relative to your own argument.
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You're delusional if you think this, whether it should or not given what was already out there, will not change anyone's mind. The voters at issue for Trump are those that did not want to vote for him but reluctantly decided to because it was for the good of the party, not hardcore trump supporters; they will obviously still vote for him.
That's what I said. His support is not going to decrease only increase. His supporters are not going to change. The problem is this man has been on record as a sexual predator bigot and a racist. At what point do trump voters say this might not be the best option moving forward.
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LOL sexual predator.. This is the same shyt you say when you are around your boys. Its guy talk. Take the bunch out your panties. Billy boy did and said worse about women (and probably hilary did too) but hey lets pretend like this is some horrible act right. An unacceptable act would like something like disclosing classified info that got people killed, selling her time to the highest crook (oops I mean bidder), and the bengazi incident. Still dont know how shes not locked up yet but its despicable how her supporters latch on to every machismo word trump says instead. Like people really care about that stuff
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HighRyzer83 wrote:LOL sexual predator.. This is the same shyt you say when you are around your boys. Its guy talk. Take the bunch out your panties. Billy boy did and said worse about women (and probably hilary did too) but hey lets pretend like this is some horrible act right. An unacceptable act would like something like disclosing classified info that got people killed, selling her time to the highest crook (oops I mean bidder), and the bengazi incident. Still dont know how shes not locked up yet but its despicable how her supporters latch on to every machismo word trump says instead. Like people really care about that stuff
This isn't a isolated incident. Talking about a woman's body is one thing from a mans perspective. Talking about sexual assault is another. Again, these actions are going to be justified because that's all the media has done. No one is saying Hilary is clean. This topic isn't about Hilary. Again how can someone say that their voting trump, when on record he can be classified as a sexual predator bigot and a racist?
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HighRyzer83 wrote:LOL sexual predator.. This is the same shyt you say when you are around your boys. Its guy talk. Take the bunch out your panties. Billy boy did and said worse about women (and probably hilary did too) but hey lets pretend like this is some horrible act right. An unacceptable act would like something like disclosing classified info that got people killed, selling her time to the highest crook (oops I mean bidder), and the bengazi incident. Still dont know how shes not locked up yet but its despicable how her supporters latch on to every machismo word trump says instead. Like people really care about that stuff
I'm sorry but grab em by the pussy isn't guy talk at all. I've never heard that. Trump literally described sexual assault, said he gets away with it because he's famous, and did it once he got out the bus.













