Devin Booker

jonjames · Post #81 » by **jonjames** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 9:02 pm

Pleasant surprise for his rookie season, kid has a really smooth game and has all star potential, but he's not a true 1st option. Good 2nd option great 3rd option on championship team. Suns should keep Knight and trade bledsoe imo.

blazeyo · Post #82 » by **blazeyo** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 9:18 pm

Bad defense, extremely good offense.
He is automatic from midrange coming off screens, the guy just never misses and he has good understanding of situations the problem is ........... his defense, cant wait to see him in the playoffs soon and see if he steps it up.

MrMiyagi · Post #83 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 9:28 pm

jonjames wrote:Pleasant surprise for his rookie season, kid has a really smooth game and has all star potential, but he's not a true 1st option. Good 2nd option great 3rd option on championship team. Suns should keep Knight and trade bledsoe imo.

You must not watch many Suns games...

Blame Rasho · Post #84 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 9:51 pm

I remember a game where the Suns didn't have point guards or power forwards during the game... and was the only reason the Suns looked like an NBA team, and that was with him playing the point.

HotelVitale · Post #85 » by **HotelVitale** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 9:55 pm

guille_4 wrote:
Patsfan1081 wrote:He's been really impressive with his scoring at such a young age but he's also still pretty raw...Booker wasn't the most efficient shooter his rookie season, especially after Knight and Bledsoe went down(he did shoot below 30% from three the second half). He's young so that's to be expected and a good sign is he'a still getting plenty of looks while I there with both Knight and Bledsoe this preseason. But also this preseason his efficiency hasn't been great and will be something he'll most likely improve on with experience.

He's been pretty efficient in the 2 pre-season games he's played so far. 13 points on 3-9 FG, 1-3 3 PT, 3-4 FT, 4 rebounds, 3 assists with 0 TOs and 1 steal in 20 minutes. 34 points on 15-23 FG, 1-3 PT, 3-4 FT, 3 rebounds, 5 assists with 4 TOs and 3 steals in 29 minutes.

I'm pretty hyped on Booker, but note that his preseason looks great basically because of one quarter (the 3rd quarter of last game). He was like 8/10 that quarter, take it away and he's at below average TS%. From what I can tell he's a fairly streaky player, which could end up being a weakness but could just be a young thing. He's also got a great feel and reads plays well, which bodes well for him when his shot's not falling. Anyone who's seen him shoot shouldn't be worrying about that, though. And he's definitely not just a good stats/bad team player.

blazeyo wrote:Bad defense, extremely good offense.He is automatic from midrange coming off screens, the guy just never misses and he has good understanding of situations the problem is ........... his defense, cant wait to see him in the playoffs soon and see if he steps it up.

He shot 37% from midrange last year, so he missed 63% of the time. He couldn't miss two days from midrange but last year that was by far his most inefficient range/type of shot.

HotelVitale · Post #86 » by **HotelVitale** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 10:15 pm

LV-Suns wrote:People that still compares him to JJ just simply hasn't seen him play. He just scored 34 points while only hitting one 3 and most of his shots coming unassisted. Both of them have an amazing shot from outside and that's where that comparison ends.

Careful here, this risks looking like you didn't see Redick play in his prime. He was an elite midrange shooter and was fairly good at creating and reading plays off the bounce. Booker's more agile and better with the ball, better athlete too, and he definitely has a higher ceiling. But gotta give Redick his due as a shooter--dude's over 41% from 3 (on over six attempts per 36), and better from midrange too. Booker needs to earn that before we can start saying he's slick with the ball and off screens etc AND equivalent to Redick as a shooter.

Post #87 » by **Quotatious** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 10:52 pm

He reminds me of Brandon Roy. He'll be a stud, multiple time All-Star if he stays healthy.

Damkac · Post #88 » by **Damkac** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 11:16 pm

Booker is 2, maybe even 3 inches taller than JJ. That alone makes them different.

John Murdoch · Post #89 » by **John Murdoch** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 11:17 pm

He's already on par with a guy like Beal imo

jonjames · Post #90 » by **jonjames** » Sun Oct 9, 2016 11:24 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
jonjames wrote:Pleasant surprise for his rookie season, kid has a really smooth game and has all star potential, but he's not a true 1st option. Good 2nd option great 3rd option on championship team. Suns should keep Knight and trade bledsoe imo.

You must not watch many Suns games...

Knight is underrated he's not a good decision maker with the ball but he can score on fairly efficient level and can come off the bench as a super sixth man. Bledsoe albiet talented is so injury prone at this point Suns aren't gonna make it with him as the floor general might as well cash in and trade him while he still has value and let ulis start. If that experiemtn fails the suns still have a chance to land one of the great pgs in the upcoming draft.

CodyB_ · Post #91 » by **CodyB_** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:39 am

One thing about him that stands out to me is his aggressiveness finishing under the hoop. He is obviously quite strong physically and will absorb contact and try to finish almost look a PF or Centre would. The fact he has an amazing shot and is turning into a great passer as well makes me feel like he will be a very unique offensive player.

Flash4thewin · Post #92 » by **Flash4thewin** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:42 am

From what everyone has seen of Booker would you take him over Justice Winslow?

EH15 · Post #93 » by **EH15** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:46 am

Flash4thewin wrote:From what everyone has seen of Booker would you take him over Justice Winslow?

They're not even in the same level...

Booker has a chance to be a top 5 player in this league. Winslow has a chance to make a handful of all star games.

MrMiyagi · Post #94 » by **MrMiyagi** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:49 am

Flash4thewin wrote:From what everyone has seen of Booker would you take him over Justice Winslow?

I have no seen enough of Justise Winslow, but it's probably too early to say who will be the better player long term. As a Phoenix fan, I would not be happy if we accepted a Justise Winslow for Booker trade, because Booker fits better with the young guys we have. We need an offensive initiator for the long-term (Bledsoe's knees and all). TJ Warren has a bit of that Shawn Marion offensive game where he doesn't necessarily need the ball to score because he cuts so well and has a nose for the ball. We don't really know what Bender is going to end up being, but it is possible he becomes a very good perimeter defender with his length and lateral quickness.

Now, that being said, we need Booker and TJ to become better defenders, much like I am sure Miami wants Winslow to become a better offensive player. They seem to be in similar, but opposite predicaments, and I wouldn't begrudge anyone who would pick Winslow over Booker.

guille_4 · Post #95 » by **guille_4** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:27 am

jonjames wrote:Pleasant surprise for his rookie season, kid has a really smooth game and has all star potential, but he's not a true 1st option. Good 2nd option great 3rd option on championship team. Suns should keep Knight and trade bledsoe imo.

He's 19.

Isn't it a tad early to make such predictions? Let him play 3 seasons before we determine whether he's a 1st option or not.

Post #96 » by **Quotatious** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:21 am

By the way, guys - found an interesting pic:

Might end up being just as random as Larry Johnson/Anthony Bennett similarities (undersized PFs born on March 14, played at UNLV, drafted 1st overall), but I hope not.

HotelVitale · Post #97 » by **HotelVitale** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:51 pm

Damkac wrote:Booker is 2, maybe even 3 inches taller than JJ. That alone makes them different.

Did Booker grow a bunch? They were both just about the same height in combine measurements (Booker was 0.5 inches taller).

guille_4 · Post #98 » by **guille_4** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:17 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
Damkac wrote:Booker is 2, maybe even 3 inches taller than JJ. That alone makes them different.

Did Booker grow a bunch? They were both just about the same height in combine measurements (Booker was 0.5 inches taller).

In Combine measurements Booker was only slightly taller (1 inch) than JJ, however:

- JJ Redick's wingspan was 6'3.25 and his standing reach 8'1.5
- Devin Booker's wingspan was 6'8.25 and his standing reach 8'6.5

That's a 5 inch difference in wingspan and standing reach. Whilst Booker's measurements are slightly above average of NBA Draft Combine's for a SG, Redick's are very below average.

There was a report saying Booker had grown 1 inch over the past season, not sure whether I believe that since he hadn't grown at all in the 2 years prior to the draft.

HotelVitale · Post #99 » by **HotelVitale** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:37 pm

guille_4 wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:
Damkac wrote:Booker is 2, maybe even 3 inches taller than JJ. That alone makes them different.
Did Booker grow a bunch? They were both just about the same height in combine measurements (Booker was 0.5 inches taller).
In Combine measurements Booker was only slightly taller (1 inch) than JJ, however:
- JJ Redick's wingspan was 6'3.25 and his standing reach 8'1.5
- Devin Booker's wingspan was 6'8.25 and his standing reach 8'6.5

Good pt on length, it was one of the things that had people excited about him as more than just a set shooter before the draft. You can definitely see why Booker's much better getting to the paint in transition (where Redick struggles, though he generally just runs to the corner for a 3).

But the height is a half inch--never use the 'height in shoes' measurement to compare guys, it's obviously measuring the shoes they wore that day and not the bodies they'll be in their whole lives.

Damkac · Post #100 » by **Damkac** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:36 pm

Most sites has JJ as 6'4 and Booker as 6'6. Supposedly Booker is 6'7 now but I don't know is this true.