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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1621 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:12 pm

AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

I'm pretty sure she hasn't - based on the reports I've seen on her taxes.

But if by chance she has - it's probably less than one 10,000th as large as the one he used...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1622 » by dckingsfan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:42 pm

AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

Ugh. They are both such ...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1623 » by closg00 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:46 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

Ugh. They are both such ...


Th Clintons still paid income taxes, that's the difference.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1624 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:49 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

Ugh. They are both such ...

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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1625 » by dckingsfan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:49 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:
AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

Ugh. They are both such ...

The Clintons still paid income taxes, that's the difference.

Sorry - was also referring to the Zero Hedge summary. I think I have made my views about Trump clear.

Just sad that Hillary is well... Hillary.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1626 » by AFM » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:49 pm

Ruzious wrote:
AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

I'm pretty sure she hasn't - based on the reports I've seen on her taxes.

But if by chance she has - it's probably less than one 10,000th as large as the one he used...


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump

You're right though of course, not nearly as much of a write off, since Trump is a horrible businessman. Everything he touches turns to turd.
But the hypocrisy is astounding.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1627 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:27 pm

AFM wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

I'm pretty sure she hasn't - based on the reports I've seen on her taxes.

But if by chance she has - it's probably less than one 10,000th as large as the one he used...


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump

You're right though of course, not nearly as much of a write off, since Trump is a horrible businessman. Everything he touches turns to turd.
But the hypocrisy is astounding.

No, not unless you're seeing something I'm not. I'm saying she probably has never had a net operating loss deduction and has probably paid tax every single year. IF she has taken it, it's been relatively tiny, but I doubt she has.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1628 » by Induveca » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:38 pm

AFM wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
AFM wrote:I wish Trump brought up the fact that Hillary used the exact same deduction on her tax return, instead of just saying her donors.

I'm pretty sure she hasn't - based on the reports I've seen on her taxes.

But if by chance she has - it's probably less than one 10,000th as large as the one he used...


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump

You're right though of course, not nearly as much of a write off, since Trump is a horrible businessman. Everything he touches turns to turd.
But the hypocrisy is astounding.


Ha.

One thing I found odd, when did Clinton suddenly sound like George W. Bush? No fly zones, provoking war for no reason (Russia this time), making outrageous claims (Russia hacking). Claiming Wikileaks is backed by Russian hackers. It's George W. Bush level stuff.

Clinton seems to desperately want to worsen already poor relations with Russia over Syria. Why? A no fly zone is pretty much a guaranteed accident leading to another cold war. It's not worth it for Syria, I agree with Trump here it makes more sense to let Russia do what they're doing. Maybe we make safe zones for refugees, but the safe zone shouldn't be in the US. He makes a good point concerning the rich nations in the Middle East taking them in.........

Lastly people may laugh off the Russia hacking claims, however she is actively lying (go to any programmer/hacker forum) about Russia being behind the Wikileaks hacks. She is endangering the *entire country* by endangering Russian relations for her personal political benefit. Any hacks are done with multiple VPNs, typically hackers use Russian/China proxies as they realize the US has zero chance of getting logs from either country.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1629 » by TGW » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:30 pm

Shillary wants to go to war with Russia so badly. I wonder what the defense contractors promised her in return.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1630 » by verbal8 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:58 pm

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Wizardspride wrote:Hey, President Obama.

Would you like a third term? :D


Barack might be cool with it, but Michelle has already made it clear that she wants her freedom from being the First Family.


I hope he gets a break for 2 or 3 years and then gets a seat on the Supreme Court. Or he buys the Wizards :)
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1631 » by dckingsfan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:05 pm

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Wizardspride wrote:Hey, President Obama.

Would you like a third term? :D

Barack might be cool with it, but Michelle has already made it clear that she wants her freedom from being the First Family.

I hope he gets a break for 2 or 3 years and then gets a seat on the Supreme Court. Or he buys the Wizards :)

I think she is way to level headed for that...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1632 » by FAH1223 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:35 pm

TGW wrote:Shillary wants to go to war with Russia so badly. I wonder what the defense contractors promised her in return.


For tens of thousands of casualties, We can get rid of the Russians in Syria in 48 hours.

But then you are willing to lose at least a couple dozen planes, a couple of frigates and destroyers maybe even a carrier and every US base in the Middle East hit by Kalibers and Iskandars.

So you will suffer hundreds of casualties and billions of dollars in loss in the same timeframe.

IMO not gonna happen though HRC will have neocon types in her administration fixated on killing Russians and Iranians.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1633 » by Induveca » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:36 pm

Ouch 2K more Wikileaks emails today in the Podests dump. Apparently trying to release all of them.

One email described Hillary Clinton as locking herself in a room and *personally* deleting her emails, refusing to do it with anyone else in sight.

Some other juicy stuff, but I'm too tired just check out Wikileaks' twitter.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1634 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:38 am

http://www.dailywire.com/news/9849/cue-new-sexual-harassment-allegations-hit-trump-hank-berrien

On Cue, New Sexual Harassment Allegations Hit Trump Campaign


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Now that the 2005 videotape of Donald Trump making lewd and nasty remarks has driven the last nail in the coffin of his vain attempts to evade being characterized as a misogynist, new sexual harassment charges are being hurled at Trump from all sides.


Gold Diggers and legit victims of sexual harassment are gonna reduce Donald Trump's "star" status and deplete a portion of his billions.

They won't let him do it any more. Dude better call Tiger Woods. Ain't getting it like he used to.

IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME ... Before Trump's wife, Melania, the trick who plagiarized Michelle Obama ... NO, that wasn't Christian or nice or respectful. :x

I think Melania will divorce Donald withing 6 months.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1635 » by Ruzious » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:39 am

What Trump did not mention is that he once defended Bill Clinton against the scandals — calling Clinton a “victim” and his attackers “unattractive.” “They made Watergate out of what really should have been nothing,” Trump said in a 1998 Fox News interview recently unearthed by ABC News.

How does anyone not see Trump as a 2-faced foul bully who changes his views to whatever's convenient for him at the moment?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1636 » by keynote » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:49 am

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

At a rally in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump spoke while holding a document in his hand. He told the assembled crowd that it was an email from Blumenthal, whom he called “sleazy Sidney.”

“This just came out a little while ago,’’ Trump said. “I have to tell you this.” And then he read the words from my article.  

“He’s now admitting they could have done something about Benghazi,’’ Trump said, dropping the document to the floor. “This just came out a little while ago.”

The crowd booed and chanted, “Lock her up!”

This is not funny. It is terrifying. The Russians engage in a sloppy disinformation effort and, before the day is out, the Republican nominee for president is standing on a stage reciting the manufactured story as truth. How did this happen? Who in the Trump campaign was feeding him falsehoods straight from the Kremlin? (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment).


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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1637 » by Induveca » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:26 am

keynote wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

At a rally in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump spoke while holding a document in his hand. He told the assembled crowd that it was an email from Blumenthal, whom he called “sleazy Sidney.”

“This just came out a little while ago,’’ Trump said. “I have to tell you this.” And then he read the words from my article.  

“He’s now admitting they could have done something about Benghazi,’’ Trump said, dropping the document to the floor. “This just came out a little while ago.”

The crowd booed and chanted, “Lock her up!”

This is not funny. It is terrifying. The Russians engage in a sloppy disinformation effort and, before the day is out, the Republican nominee for president is standing on a stage reciting the manufactured story as truth. How did this happen? Who in the Trump campaign was feeding him falsehoods straight from the Kremlin? (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment).


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Russians, give me a break. This was a gmail account, this was someone inside their offices.....the pattern is too obvious. These Russian claims are beyond ludicrous, and irresponsible.

Remember this isn't the Pentagon, this is some older gmail on a personal laptop. Wives/husbands expecting their spouses/children of transgressions execute these "hacks" with keyloggers.

Lastly the Newsweek article is ridiculous. They claim that a new batch of only 2000 documents, released 6-7 hours prior it was nearly impossible to find an email containing a reference to Benghazi quickly?

With tens of thousands of Wikileaks followers online digging through the emails that specific email was likely found within 1 minute of release by thousands of people, then spread like wildfire. Blumenthal is a major figure, along with Soros everyone looks for on those forums.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/
1. Click advanced search/
2. Enter "Blumenthal" in "mail is from", click search
3. The referenced email is shown as #2

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Re: RE: Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1638 » by keynote » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:53 pm

Induveca wrote:
keynote wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

At a rally in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump spoke while holding a document in his hand. He told the assembled crowd that it was an email from Blumenthal, whom he called “sleazy Sidney.”

“This just came out a little while ago,’’ Trump said. “I have to tell you this.” And then he read the words from my article.  

“He’s now admitting they could have done something about Benghazi,’’ Trump said, dropping the document to the floor. “This just came out a little while ago.”

The crowd booed and chanted, “Lock her up!”

This is not funny. It is terrifying. The Russians engage in a sloppy disinformation effort and, before the day is out, the Republican nominee for president is standing on a stage reciting the manufactured story as truth. How did this happen? Who in the Trump campaign was feeding him falsehoods straight from the Kremlin? (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment).


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Russians, give me a break. This was a gmail account, this was someone inside their offices.....the pattern is too obvious. These Russian claims are beyond ludicrous, and irresponsible.

Remember this isn't the Pentagon, this is some older gmail on a personal laptop. Wives/husbands expecting their spouses/children of transgressions execute these "hacks" with keyloggers.

Lastly the Newsweek article is ridiculous. They claim that a new batch of only 2000 documents, released 6-7 hours prior it was nearly impossible to find an email containing a reference to Benghazi quickly?

With tens of thousands of Wikileaks followers online digging through the emails that specific email was likely found within 1 minute of release by thousands of people, then spread like wildfire. Blumenthal is a major figure, along with Soros everyone looks for on those forums.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/
1. Click advanced search/
2. Enter "Blumenthal" in "mail is from", click search
3. The referenced email is shown as #2

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I can't say for certain whether this particular falsification was inserted by the Russians, or by the proverbial 400-lbs. hacker Trump referred to. But it is evidence that at least some of the leaks are tainted and manipulated. And, Republicans and Democrats alike agree with the Administration's conclusion that Russia is behind at least some of these cyber attacks.

Still. Regardless of the source of the falsified leak, we can at least agree that Trump was irresponsible in breathlessly repeating what turned out to be a false quote, no? Did Trump's campaign offer any follow-up statement of correct or clarify?


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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1639 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:58 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:http://www.dailywire.com/news/9849/cue-new-sexual-harassment-allegations-hit-trump-hank-berrien

On Cue, New Sexual Harassment Allegations Hit Trump Campaign


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USA Today, examining over 4,000 lawsuits that involve Trump, has found damning evidence corroborating perspectives that view Trump and the companies he has run as harbors for sexual harassment. The research found at least 20 different lawsuits alleging Trump and the managers at his companies sexually harassed their employees or ignored complaints of harassment.


"Trump and the companies he has run" currently involves 514 different businesses and subsidiaries and an estimated 22,000 employees (and probably over 100,000 in the past decade or two when factoring turnover). 20 sexual harassment lawsuits out of 100,000+ employees over several decades does not strike me as newsworthy. And let's not forget that lawsuits are merely allegations, not proven facts.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part X 

Post#1640 » by Wizardspride » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:41 pm

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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.

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