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Re: Fantasy H2H and Dynasty leagues 

Post#21 » by Stix » Sun Oct 9, 2016 1:03 pm

Ulquiorra wrote:In for dynasty, hate espn tho :lol:


Ditto.
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Post#22 » by edurham88 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 5:01 pm

I'm in for dynasty too. I prefer head to head, but rotisserie works. And I like yahoo much better than ESPN.
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Post#23 » by bwgood77 » Sun Oct 9, 2016 5:24 pm

If anyone wants to run the league in yahoo (at least the dynasty league), speak up and we can do that.. I've only run leagues in espn, prefer it, and am going to stick with that if I run it.

I think the only reason some prefer yahoo is because that is what they are used to.
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Post#24 » by NTB » Sun Oct 9, 2016 5:28 pm

I like ESPN too.
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Post#25 » by TASTIC » Sun Oct 9, 2016 11:50 pm

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KopLegend wrote:Hmm maybe for dynasty I'd love to know more about it


Well, TASTIC says it's best with about 7 or 8 keepers, so you draft thinking about the future and not only this year and you are committed to play in future seasons. Future drafts will be mostly for rookies, players who break out, and end of the rotation guys.

Another cool thing you can do it keep the player where you (or someone else) picked them.

So say you added Jokic off waivers last year you could keep this year as your last pick in the draft the following season.

Or if you drafted say Buddy Hield in Rd 8 this year, you could keep him in Rd 8 for next year's draft.
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Post#26 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:24 am

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KopLegend wrote:Hmm maybe for dynasty I'd love to know more about it


Well, TASTIC says it's best with about 7 or 8 keepers, so you draft thinking about the future and not only this year and you are committed to play in future seasons. Future drafts will be mostly for rookies, players who break out, and end of the rotation guys.

Another cool thing you can do it keep the player where you (or someone else) picked them.

So say you added Jokic off waivers last year you could keep this year as your last pick in the draft the following season.

Or if you drafted say Buddy Hield in Rd 8 this year, you could keep him in Rd 8 for next year's draft.


It's hard enough to get through a draft here and to keep everyone on the same page and engaged. I think at least in year one, we need to simply just pick a number of keepers and leave it at that. I like stuff like that but running these drafts and keeping track of everyone is crazy and sometimes painful enough as it is.

If one person in the league isn't on the same page as everyone else, even that throws everything off big time. I don't need to mention a good example from a couple years ago.
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Post#27 » by Phystic » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:39 am

I'd have some interest in a dynasty league, depending on some of the details
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Re: Fantasy H2H and Dynasty leagues 

Post#28 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:47 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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bwgood77 wrote:
Well, TASTIC says it's best with about 7 or 8 keepers, so you draft thinking about the future and not only this year and you are committed to play in future seasons. Future drafts will be mostly for rookies, players who break out, and end of the rotation guys.

Another cool thing you can do it keep the player where you (or someone else) picked them.

So say you added Jokic off waivers last year you could keep this year as your last pick in the draft the following season.

Or if you drafted say Buddy Hield in Rd 8 this year, you could keep him in Rd 8 for next year's draft.


It's hard enough to get through a draft here and to keep everyone on the same page and engaged. I think at least in year one, we need to simply just pick a number of keepers and leave it at that. I like stuff like that but running these drafts and keeping track of everyone is crazy and sometimes painful enough as it is.

If one person in the league isn't on the same page as everyone else, even that throws everything off big time. I don't need to mention a good example from a couple years ago.

I mean, isn't dynasty supposed to resemble the real NBA, where your players tend to stay the same, building through the draft? It wouldn't make sense to me to have a draft round associated with a player, and by keeping that player means that's the pick you don't make. It's easier and makes more sense to have your 7 or 8 keepers and then have a draft with 4 or 5 rounds (we'd do 12 players per team, right?).
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Re: Fantasy H2H and Dynasty leagues 

Post#29 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:55 am

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TASTIC wrote:Another cool thing you can do it keep the player where you (or someone else) picked them.

So say you added Jokic off waivers last year you could keep this year as your last pick in the draft the following season.

Or if you drafted say Buddy Hield in Rd 8 this year, you could keep him in Rd 8 for next year's draft.


It's hard enough to get through a draft here and to keep everyone on the same page and engaged. I think at least in year one, we need to simply just pick a number of keepers and leave it at that. I like stuff like that but running these drafts and keeping track of everyone is crazy and sometimes painful enough as it is.

If one person in the league isn't on the same page as everyone else, even that throws everything off big time. I don't need to mention a good example from a couple years ago.

I mean, isn't dynasty supposed to resemble the real NBA, where your players tend to stay the same, building through the draft? It wouldn't make sense to me to have a draft round associated with a player, and by keeping that player means that's the pick you don't make. It's easier and makes more sense to have your 7 or 8 keepers and then have a draft with 4 or 5 rounds (we'd do 12 players per team, right?).


Yes, originally I was thinking in dynasty you kept everyone but then I figured the rookies would have to be drafted, so basically it is a keeper league, but with more keepers, so yes, a smaller draft.
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Post#30 » by wordsenuff » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:26 am

I'm down for some dynasty!!
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Post#31 » by Qwigglez » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:46 am

Down for Dynasty if it's Yahoo.
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Post#32 » by Calvin Klein » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:58 pm

Also interested in Dynasty!
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Post#33 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:01 pm

OK, so for Dynasty interest we have:

Ulquiorra wrote:I'd love a dynasty league, and since you've been running these leagues for years you already know whos gonna be active year after year.


edurham88 wrote:I'd love a dynasty league also. I've been in one for 5 years and it is by far my favorite league. I would love to join another one. I haven't been around here for long but I'm about as active as they come.


Phystic wrote:Never done a dynasty league but have been curious to try it


WeekapaugGroove wrote:Id be in on a dynasty league.


Kerrsed wrote:Im down for the Dynasty Keeper League


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NTB wrote:I can participate in both H2H and dynasty.
me too


MrMiyagi wrote:The whole Keeper/Dynasty Auction League is incredibly enticing. I would play Fantasy Basketball again in that scenario. Deal me in boys.


KopLegend wrote:Hmm maybe for dynasty I'd love to know more about it


wordsenuff wrote:I'm down for some dynasty!!


Zero Tolerance wrote:I would be interested in either Keeper or Dynasty if we can get like 12 teams. I just think its a really interesting concept and we have a lot of guys who are perennial fantasy players here so it shouldn't be hard to get the teams filled. :dontknow:


MathiasPW wrote:I'm willing to play other leagues, too. I understand the concept of dynasty league. Is there a difference to keepers league ?


kennydorglas wrote:I'm in for some dynasty/keepers.


So that's 15 if you count me and TASTIC. Qwigglez only would do it if yahoo, but he would have made 16. Phystic is somewhat interested depending on details (stated in another post).

If auction, we'd have to do a live draft, which seems impossible given that people are spread out all over the world, so it would have to be snake draft.

We also HAVE to have really active participants and people have to draft fairly quickly as the season starts in only a couple of weeks. We would have to shorten the time to make your pick and make sure some email me. Some of the above would take a while sometimes. If you are going to sleep and are within the next 7 or 8 picks, it's best to send a list to someone.

As I mentioned before, if someone else wants to run it, and do it in yahoo, I'm all for that, as I already run quite a few fantasy leagues and have to do stuff on the forums here, and yes, a real job too. But I will run it on espn if there is enough interest (which is where I run all the fantasy leagues I run). I'm not sure if I missed anyone, so if there was anyone else, respond here.
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Post#34 » by MathiasPW » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:30 pm

I'm OK with all requests
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Post#35 » by TASTIC » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:38 pm

I don't think there's time to organise an auction one considering there are so many people and we're all in different time-zones with different stuff on.

So as Bwgood said, offline is the best bet, with a strictly enforced 12hr time limit.

We need to sort out roster size/make-up and keeper rules obviously before we start. And then draft order for both this season (Fantasy Toolbox gets my vote) and then how we're going to determine it for following seasons - random again or reverse standings etc?

Weighted draft order isn't a bad idea either - maybe something like 15th team gets 15 chances, 10th gets 10, 1st gets 1 shot at top pick etc.

So I'll chime in with my thoughts:

- 15 or 16 team is good - means you really have to find future talent late and not just lazily draft Joe Johnson in the 12th for example. Unless you're in win now mode obviously, and there's always a few teams who land elite talent ahead of reaching for youth. That's actually half the fun is seeing who's win now and who's building. And then trading them a mediocre vet for a high upside young gun at 'mate's rates' as we say in NZ. :)

- Keeper amount. I'm in one that keeps 5 (with weird rules like 2 players must have <4yr NBA experience...meh) and another that keeps 7. OR, we go full dynasty and keep everyone. My preference would be keep 6-7-8 so at least there's some decent talent in the draft and any picks traded do have SOME value at least.

- Roster size. I'd suggest we don't go any more than 12-13 players. That's a player pool size of 180 deep for 15 teams w/ 12 man, and a max of 16 teams w/ 13 man at 208 deep. I think we keep it simple like Yahoo's standard (PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTL, UTL, BN, BN, BN). Also suggest 2x IL spots as you definitely need those for dynasty.

I'd love to run this but only a month into the new job and this would be my 7th league....Also in this cool one of Australia vs New Zealand, with two of the Basketball Monster guys (Josh Lloyd and Matt Smith) repping Oz and a well known sports anchor in NZ is on our side, should be fun!

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Post#36 » by kennydorglas » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:12 am

Full dynasty would be really interesting.
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Post#37 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:00 am

kennydorglas wrote:Full dynasty would be really interesting.


I think 7 or 8 makes sense so you could basically drop 4 or 5 as they get older and with 60 rookies coming in, that means with 12 teams, if everyone took 5, or 3 rookies (36 total) and maybe a couple of vets or 2nd/3rd year guys that broke out or something, or guys they expect to break out, it works out pretty well.
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Post#38 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:01 am

TASTIC wrote:- Roster size. I'd suggest we don't go any more than 12-13 players. That's a player pool size of 180 deep for 15 teams w/ 12 man, and a max of 16 teams w/ 13 man at 208 deep. I think we keep it simple like Yahoo's standard (PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTL, UTL, BN, BN, BN). Also suggest 2x IL spots as you definitely need those for dynasty.


I did CBA in espn and we kept the same positions as other leagues and 1 IR, but I'd rather have 2 IR spots anyway because someone will get really screwed with injuries.
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Post#39 » by wordsenuff » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:25 am

I'm down!! if i can't make a pick myself ill send you (bwgood) a short list, if thats cool.
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Post#40 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:31 am

wordsenuff wrote:I'm down!! if i can't make a pick myself ill send you (bwgood) a short list, if thats cool.


That's good, and if I draft right around you and you'd rather not me get the idea to take him (although I likely wouldn't unless I was already planning on doing so, you could send it to someone else).

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