The Official Lin Net Thread

[GoodDayLa]

I just gotta post this because this is getting irritating. The reason why forums cant stand having Lin is because of stuff like this. Lin is a good player and here at brooklyn he has a chance to show people what he is made of. Stop saying Lin added 10-12 wins to charlotte when he was there, yes he played a pivotal role last season. And here we are at the nets the season has not even started yet and already some people have playoff aspirations because of what? Lin? im a Lin fan and i know he will be good he is not going to spoil this chance thats why he came here. But dont kid yourselves Lin is going to become Lebron overnight carrying a team only Lebron does that. im happy if he averages 15/8 for god sake those are good numbers. I'll say this if Lin takes this team to the playoffs i'll run around town naked screaming i dont know whats real anymore.

Posts likes this is exactly why I'm posting what I'm posting right now today. No you won't run around naked screaming but yes you will acknowledge you were wrong and be happy about it.

Like I said, Lin is a SCRUB if this team cannot make the playoffs. I'm am not trying to hedge my claims.

If the Nets don't make the playoffs, and Lin plays almost all 82 games, he is overrated media hype. He is a benchwarmer who got lucky because he looks different and Prokhorov wanted to sell some tickets and make money in China.

Last season, I told the NBA media guys that the Hornets would definitely make the playoffs after MKG got hurt and said they shouldn't get paid to do their jobs. They either called me looney tunes or showed me MKG's statical effects on the hornets and that it would not be possible without MKG to make the playoffs.

The purpose of my post is not to be yet another annoying Lin fan, even if that's how it comes across. I'm not someone from Asia who started watching NBA basketball in 2012 during Linsanity (not that there's anything wrong with that). I remember watching Buck Williams and Kendall Gill and Kenny Anderson and Michael Ray and D Coleman etc.

I simply believe Lin has been so unfairly treated and handled the last 4 seasons that he's good enough to make this a playoff team with some help. Make no mistake, it will take a team effort. Lin is no Lebron at PG. That title belongs to Eric Bledsoe and he ainnt doing much in Phoenix.

This is the last I will post about it. I hope if they make the playoffs, some people's eyes will open and wonder how even Vegas could peg this team at only 20 wins. If I am wrong, Lin is a scrub and should be dumped to the D-league even if he puts up worthless 20 and 10 stats on a losing team.

[ChokeFasncists]

I am a big Lin fan but cannot agree he is a creative passer. Lin is an elite offensive pressure guard with a top NBA level first step. This advantage predicates his entire game and he's smart enough to make the proper read most times in these situations and not forcing too much. Plus he's worked hard to be an effective 3 point shooter with the ability to get hot when on. It's a scary weapon he has when properly harnessed and I suspect it will be this season.

That's cool. Why don't you think he's a creative passer tho? He regularly did those wrap around passes, alley-oops, touchdown passes, no-look, thread-the-needle bounce passes, give and go etc. He toned it down quite a bit in Charlotte that's for sure. His problem is more like he isn't focused enough on protecting the ball, got TOs and become timid.

Sympathetic teammates? You mean a scheme that caters to Lin based on coaching.

That's surely not bad, but being good is good enough; more importantly teammates who cut to spaces when Lin creates and/or sees an opening rather than standing around like in Houston.

Anyways, welcome!

I don't really think of Lin as a creative passer, or really a passing PG, more of a scoring PG.
His career high in assists for a season is only 6.1 and 4.4 for his career. His career high in a game is 14 and only had 23 game in his career with 10 or more assists.

Well, his career path was a little skewed so we don't know for sure. I think he averaged around 9 assists during Linsanity. Who knows what would have happened without the Harden trade?

In his lone start last season at PG he got 8 assists.

A lot of his creative passes became TOs cuz they were too creative, only existing in his imagination.

There has been constant debate among Lin fans whether he's score-first, pass-second or he's score to draw defenders so he can pass to more open teammates. I'm squarely in the latter camp.

[ChokeFasncists]

Lol your post shows exactly how much u under value Lin. How ironic.

You just single handedly affirmed Vae Victus' post of just how badly someone like you as a Net fan underestimates Jeremy Lin having not closely paid attention to his abilty and his games. It's a full time job so dont blame you.

Eventually you will wonder how the Nets made the playoffs. Lins stats may not even look that great at 14-17 ppg,4-7 apg, 3-5 rbs but he will be why they do.

Some of you guys make me chuckle. I'm a Lin fan myself and I wish the best for him, for this season. However sometimes I get the feeling that for some fans Lin is not only a basketball player, but a god. I mean can he do wrong?
I'm not saying I know how the outcome will be, but when some of you talk of the future it just sounds so absolute.
To elaborate, I'll exagerate for a moment: "Just wait and see Lin will bring us to the promised land (if Brook rolls to the basket, even earlier;-) and will bring home a championship (next year at the latest)".
I mean, just try to be more realistic. Lin is a great player, he makes his teammates better. From my point of view he might, though not very realistic (only if some other players surprise us), even get this team to the playoffs.
I agree his stats will drastically improve, his turnovers will increase a bit (but thats ok, if he has the ball in his hands that much) and we will see lots of beautiful unselfish basketball, but don't expect too much in the sense of many wins. The other NBA teams are no scrubs. If Lin has another Cinderella story I will enjoy it just the same. Just don't forget, JLin is mortal

Just in case, are you Fair Dinkum or do you know him? (lol, sorry, old Aussie comrade defending Lin, got banned by the fascistic fansite and never heard from him again)

[ChokeFasncists]

I am a big Lin fan but cannot agree he is a creative passer. Lin is an elite offensive pressure guard with a top NBA level first step. This advantage predicates his entire game and he's smart enough to make the proper read most times in these situations and not forcing too much. Plus he's worked hard to be an effective 3 point shooter with the ability to get hot when on. It's a scary weapon he has when properly harnessed and I suspect it will be this season.

That's cool. Why don't you think he's a creative passer tho? He regularly did those wrap around passes, alley-oops, touchdown passes, no-look, thread-the-needle bounce passes, give and go etc. He toned it down quite a bit in Charlotte that's for sure. His problem is more like he isn't focused enough on protecting the ball, got TOs and become timid.

Sympathetic teammates? You mean a scheme that caters to Lin based on coaching.

That's surely not bad, but being good is good enough; more importantly teammates who cut to spaces when Lin creates and/or sees an opening rather than standing around like in Houston.

Anyways, welcome!

I dont think Lin is creative in passing. I think he just knows how to attack defenses with his PnR skill and first step drives and then he's very good at reading the situation and deciding whether to score or pass or do something else.

Creative is also tough to define. We may think about it differently. J. Will of Sacramento was a creative passer to me. Kyrie Irving is a creative dribbler, and for me, Jlin is not though Lin is totally competent at NBA dribbling and very effective with the ball.

Effectiveness and creativity are 2 different things for me. Lin is effective and makes the right play almost to the point of being methodical. And thus for me that loses creativity. It's a subjective call.

As to good coaching, I agree with you. Some guys need to cut, some guys need to stay on the corner 3s to space, but I understand what you mean is probably that Lin needs to develop ESP with certain teammates so they know when to break plays and get open to make things work with Lin when play #1 breaks down like how a receiver comes back to his QB or breaks the route to go long when a play breaks down in football. I get that as well. I think Lin will get that simply because he is the alpha dog guard on his team this year.

Well, Lin is certainly not JWill......but that doesn't mean he's not creative, how many JWills are there?

One could argue that MDA was a very sympathetic coach and very creative in terms of passing out of the PnR, whereas McFail and BS were pretty bad. Cliff is OK but he clearly values low turnovers much more than creative passing.

Well, let's see how Atkinson is. I believe it won't be bad for sure since he helped Korver and the Hawks become very good passers and helped Lin during Linsanitiy with MDA.

Didn't he get pretty creative with big Al and Hawes towards the end of the season? Unfortunately Al was missing tons of gimmes and Hawes was a bit slow.

Why would a methodical passer have so many TOs?

Agreed about the teammates thing. When he drives and draws two defenders, there must be some space open, his teammates have to know when to cut and receive the passes. Of course, they have to be able to finish them. It's always good to have a long high flying big to lob to or bail him out by just throwing it up in the air. Brook is not ideal but not bad. Lets hope CMC gets his act together quick.

[JohnStockton]

Some of yall doubling down on Lin being a scrub if this team doesn't make the playoffs are pushing reality.

The only players who could replace Lin and make this team a playoff team are Lebron, Curry, and maybe Durant.

The Nets are one of the least talented teams in the league, if not the least talented.

[Kswiss]

Some of yall doubling down on Lin being a scrub if this team doesn't make the playoffs are pushing reality.

The only players who could replace Lin and make this team a playoff team are Lebron, Curry, and maybe Durant.

The Nets are one of the least talented teams in the league, if not the least talented.

I agree, I think Lin is more of a mini-Lebron in terms of his impact which is still a great player. He elevates his teammates and is a great playmaker and decision maker. However he's not at Lebron's level of impact and even Lebron might have to go all out to bring this roster to the playoffs which I'm not sure he could do at his age for a full season. I definitely don't think Curry could make this a playoff team but that's a story for another day (I'm not that high on Curry). That said, I think 40 wins is doable and if everyone steps up, who knows playoffs are possible. But not making it doesn't mean Lin is a scrub

[TinmanZBoy]

Some of yall doubling down on Lin being a scrub if this team doesn't make the playoffs are pushing reality.

The only players who could replace Lin and make this team a playoff team are Lebron, Curry, and maybe Durant.

The Nets are one of the least talented teams in the league, if not the least talented.

I agree, I think Lin is more of a mini-Lebron in terms of his impact which is still a great player. He elevates his teammates and is a great playmaker and decision maker. However he's not at Lebron's level of impact and even Lebron might have to go all out to bring this roster to the playoffs which I'm not sure he could do at his age for a full season. I definitely don't think Curry could make this a playoff team but that's a story for another day (I'm not that high on Curry). That said, I think 40 wins is doable and if everyone steps up, who knows playoffs are possible. But not making it doesn't mean Lin is a scrub

maybe tiny tiny tiny LeBron

[Aussiemongoose]

Some of you guys make me chuckle. I'm a Lin fan myself and I wish the best for him, for this season. However sometimes I get the feeling that for some fans Lin is not only a basketball player, but a god. I mean can he do wrong?
I'm not saying I know how the outcome will be, but when some of you talk of the future it just sounds so absolute.
To elaborate, I'll exagerate for a moment: "Just wait and see Lin will bring us to the promised land (if Brook rolls to the basket, even earlier;-) and will bring home a championship (next year at the latest)".
I mean, just try to be more realistic. Lin is a great player, he makes his teammates better. From my point of view he might, though not very realistic (only if some other players surprise us), even get this team to the playoffs.
I agree his stats will drastically improve, his turnovers will increase a bit (but thats ok, if he has the ball in his hands that much) and we will see lots of beautiful unselfish basketball, but don't expect too much in the sense of many wins. The other NBA teams are no scrubs. If Lin has another Cinderella story I will enjoy it just the same. Just don't forget, JLin is mortal

Just in case, are you Fair Dinkum or do you know him? (lol, sorry, old Aussie comrade defending Lin, got banned by the fascistic fansite and never heard from him again)

No, I'm not Fair Dinkum.
This is the first forum I've started posting. I've just been reading the boards (but only from his teams) to acquire more basketball knowledge. There have been really good posters on the hornets and on this board. That is also why I started chipping in.

[anthoang]

Lin should probably sit the rest of the preseason. After today's game, I'm about 75% sure he'll make the team.... coach should think about saving Lin's hot hand for the regular season.

[Vae Victus]

Man some of you guys need to relax on these over the top predictions. I'm optimistic that Atkinson's system will get the best out of his players and Lin will drop 20/7 on good efficiency and good D. Alot of players will have career years and even BroLo will see an uptick in growth of his game as he starts trying to shoot 3s. Everyone WILL play hard or get benched for the next eager soul ready to grow their roles in the league (Booker, RHJ, CMC, etc) or doing their best to stick around (Scola, Vazquez, Hamilton). Lin is gonna move that rock around and the offense will be interesting and at times exciting to watch. Especially when Lin will sprinkle in 15-20 games of magic reminiscent of Linsanity over the season.

However the defense is gonna be putrid. This team will have to run n gun their way to wins. Thus at absolute best i only see them at 35 wins but being optimistic i predicted 32 wins. This is assuming things go swimmingly well for Lin and Kenny gets everyone to buy in. If a coupla major variables dont fall into place then it'll likely be a 25 win season which oddly enough is still an improvemtn on their expected win total.

As such, i put 2k on Nets making the over (20.5), sure they wont be good, but i HIGHLY doubt they'll suck more than last year. Lin with some crazy games will steal at LEAST 10 games over the season, when Lin sucks he SUCKS but when he's on hooo boy its a dandy of a game to watch. Thus they just gotta win at least 11 more games with some hot shooting, yea i can totally see that happening.

Edit: God i wished Miami had no matched on Tyler... he'd be the perfect combo guard complement with Lin. Can play PG when Lin sits and they both can easily share the floor playing off of each other's penetration. As someone said, if TJ had been signed the ceiling on the team can even be as high as 40 wins, he's got some serious talent.

[Aussiemongoose]

Man some of you guys need to relax on these over the top predictions. I'm optimistic that Atkinson's system will get the best out of his players and Lin will drop 20/7 on good efficiency and good D. Alot of players will have career years and even BroLo will see an uptick in growth of his game as he starts trying to shoot 3s. Everyone WILL play hard or get benched for the next eager soul ready to grow their roles in the league (Booker, RHJ, CMC, etc) or doing their best to stick around (Scola, Vazquez, Hamilton). Lin is gonna move that rock around and the offense will be interesting and at times exciting to watch. Especially when Lin will sprinkle in 15-20 games of magic reminiscent of Linsanity over the season.

However the defense is gonna be putrid. This team will have to run n gun their way to wins. Thus at absolute best i only see them at 35 wins but being optimistic i predicted 32 wins. This is assuming things go swimmingly well for Lin and Kenny gets everyone to buy in. If a coupla major variables dont fall into place then it'll likely be a 25 win season which oddly enough is still an improvemtn on their expected win total.

As such, i put 2k on Nets making the over (20.5), sure they wont be good, but i HIGHLY doubt they'll suck more than last year. Lin with some crazy games will steal at LEAST 10 games over the season, when Lin sucks he SUCKS but when he's on hooo boy its a dandy of a game to watch. Thus they just gotta win at least 11 more games with some hot shooting, yea i can totally see that happening.

Edit: God i wished Miami had no matched on Tyler... he'd be the perfect combo guard complement with Lin. Can play PG when Lin sits and they both can easily share the floor playing off of each other's penetration. As someone said, if TJ had been signed the ceiling on the team can even be as high as 40 wins, he's got some serious talent.

I agree on pretty much everything, just don't buy in on JLin getting this team to 10 more wins. The Team's D is really horrific... we will see

[TTNN]

Some of yall doubling down on Lin being a scrub if this team doesn't make the playoffs are pushing reality.

The only players who could replace Lin and make this team a playoff team are Lebron, Curry, and maybe Durant.

The Nets are one of the least talented teams in the league, if not the least talented.

Glad to see someone still keep a clear mind.

Scared to see GoodDayLa is here, guess I will have one less board to enjoy now.  I used to like Jeremylin.net a lot, then totally not readable there. Thank you.

If the Nets don't make the playoffs, and Lin plays almost all 82 games, he is overrated media hype. He is a benchwarmer who got lucky because he looks different and Prokhorov wanted to sell some tickets and make money in China.

BTW, you changed bro, adding the "if the Nets...." part of the sentence is so confusing, you used to skip the first sentence, and go directly with "he is overrated media hype. He is a benchwarmer who got lucky because he looks different and Prokhorov wanted to sell some tickets and make money in China."

[cn0gd]

If the Nets don't make the playoffs, and Lin plays almost all 82 games, he is overrated media hype. He is a benchwarmer who got lucky because he looks different and Prokhorov wanted to sell some tickets and make money in China.

BTW, you changed bro, adding the "if the Nets...." part of the sentence is so confusing, you used to skip the first sentence, and go directly with "he is overrated media hype. He is a benchwarmer who got lucky because he looks different and Prokhorov wanted to sell some tickets and make money in China."

[MrDollarBills]

Man some of you guys need to relax on these over the top predictions. I'm optimistic that Atkinson's system will get the best out of his players and Lin will drop 20/7 on good efficiency and good D. Alot of players will have career years and even BroLo will see an uptick in growth of his game as he starts trying to shoot 3s. Everyone WILL play hard or get benched for the next eager soul ready to grow their roles in the league (Booker, RHJ, CMC, etc) or doing their best to stick around (Scola, Vazquez, Hamilton). Lin is gonna move that rock around and the offense will be interesting and at times exciting to watch. Especially when Lin will sprinkle in 15-20 games of magic reminiscent of Linsanity over the season.

However the defense is gonna be putrid. This team will have to run n gun their way to wins. Thus at absolute best i only see them at 35 wins but being optimistic i predicted 32 wins. This is assuming things go swimmingly well for Lin and Kenny gets everyone to buy in. If a coupla major variables dont fall into place then it'll likely be a 25 win season which oddly enough is still an improvemtn on their expected win total.

As such, i put 2k on Nets making the over (20.5), sure they wont be good, but i HIGHLY doubt they'll suck more than last year. Lin with some crazy games will steal at LEAST 10 games over the season, when Lin sucks he SUCKS but when he's on hooo boy its a dandy of a game to watch. Thus they just gotta win at least 11 more games with some hot shooting, yea i can totally see that happening.

Edit: God i wished Miami had no matched on Tyler... he'd be the perfect combo guard complement with Lin. Can play PG when Lin sits and they both can easily share the floor playing off of each other's penetration. As someone said, if TJ had been signed the ceiling on the team can even be as high as 40 wins, he's got some serious talent.

If we win 30 games I'll be happy. plus, i'll also be paid since i laid down a G on the Nets taking that over.

[MrDollarBills]

I just gotta post this because this is getting irritating. The reason why forums cant stand having Lin is because of stuff like this. Lin is a good player and here at brooklyn he has a chance to show people what he is made of. Stop saying Lin added 10-12 wins to charlotte when he was there, yes he played a pivotal role last season. And here we are at the nets the season has not even started yet and already some people have playoff aspirations because of what? Lin? im a Lin fan and i know he will be good he is not going to spoil this chance thats why he came here. But dont kid yourselves Lin is going to become Lebron overnight carrying a team only Lebron does that. im happy if he averages 15/8 for god sake those are good numbers. I'll say this if Lin takes this team to the playoffs i'll run around town naked screaming i dont know whats real anymore.

Posts likes this is exactly why I'm posting what I'm posting right now today. No you won't run around naked screaming but yes you will acknowledge you were wrong and be happy about it.

Like I said, Lin is a SCRUB if this team cannot make the playoffs. I'm am not trying to hedge my claims.

If the Nets don't make the playoffs, and Lin plays almost all 82 games, he is overrated media hype. He is a benchwarmer who got lucky because he looks different and Prokhorov wanted to sell some tickets and make money in China.

Last season, I told the NBA media guys that the Hornets would definitely make the playoffs after MKG got hurt and said they shouldn't get paid to do their jobs. They either called me looney tunes or showed me MKG's statical effects on the hornets and that it would not be possible without MKG to make the playoffs.

The purpose of my post is not to be yet another annoying Lin fan, even if that's how it comes across. I'm not someone from Asia who started watching NBA basketball in 2012 during Linsanity (not that there's anything wrong with that). I remember watching Buck Williams and Kendall Gill and Kenny Anderson and Michael Ray and D Coleman etc.

I simply believe Lin has been so unfairly treated and handled the last 4 seasons that he's good enough to make this a playoff team with some help. Make no mistake, it will take a team effort. Lin is no Lebron at PG. That title belongs to Eric Bledsoe and he ainnt doing much in Phoenix.

This is the last I will post about it. I hope if they make the playoffs, some people's eyes will open and wonder how even Vegas could peg this team at only 20 wins. If I am wrong, Lin is a scrub and should be dumped to the D-league even if he puts up worthless 20 and 10 stats on a losing team.

We're not making the playoffs, but that's not an indictment on Lin.

[hood30]

Looking at how under developed the team is right now, we might be forced to run a Dantoni style offense. But man.... Lin's body is going to take a beating . Frankly I prefer the system Kenny's running now for the sake of Lin's health.

All Atkinson has to do is to mixed things out, but I do believe Lin should be put through as many PnR as possible.

At this point, it's very hard to play the motion offense with 2 guys who can't shoot..Booker and RHJ.....The second unit that would consist of Harris, Hamilton and Scola would fit the motion/4-out offense much better.

In fact, I seriously think Kenny should seriously consider starting Scola and Harris instead of Booker/RHJ...I know that is unlikely, but they fit the motion offense much better.

You also want to surround Lin with as many shooters as possible..I would like to see at least 1 preseason games with this line up: Lin/Bogs/Harris/Scola/Lopez....

Or if Scola is a reliability on defense, replace him with Hamilton who I feel would be better use as a PF next to Lopez since he can shoot the 3PT shot.

The roster has plenty of shooter afterrall but the projected starting 5 does not...You have 2 guys that can't shoot.

[hood30]

Man some of you guys need to relax on these over the top predictions. I'm optimistic that Atkinson's system will get the best out of his players and Lin will drop 20/7 on good efficiency and good D. Alot of players will have career years and even BroLo will see an uptick in growth of his game as he starts trying to shoot 3s. Everyone WILL play hard or get benched for the next eager soul ready to grow their roles in the league (Booker, RHJ, CMC, etc) or doing their best to stick around (Scola, Vazquez, Hamilton). Lin is gonna move that rock around and the offense will be interesting and at times exciting to watch. Especially when Lin will sprinkle in 15-20 games of magic reminiscent of Linsanity over the season.

However the defense is gonna be putrid. This team will have to run n gun their way to wins. Thus at absolute best i only see them at 35 wins but being optimistic i predicted 32 wins. This is assuming things go swimmingly well for Lin and Kenny gets everyone to buy in. If a coupla major variables dont fall into place then it'll likely be a 25 win season which oddly enough is still an improvemtn on their expected win total.

As such, i put 2k on Nets making the over (20.5), sure they wont be good, but i HIGHLY doubt they'll suck more than last year. Lin with some crazy games will steal at LEAST 10 games over the season, when Lin sucks he SUCKS but when he's on hooo boy its a dandy of a game to watch. Thus they just gotta win at least 11 more games with some hot shooting, yea i can totally see that happening.

Edit: God i wished Miami had no matched on Tyler... he'd be the perfect combo guard complement with Lin. Can play PG when Lin sits and they both can easily share the floor playing off of each other's penetration. As someone said, if TJ had been signed the ceiling on the team can even be as high as 40 wins, he's got some serious talent.

About your $2k bet..I think that's smart money and you will definitely cash in unless Lin and Lopez gets hurt.

Just wondering, where did you place your bet...I myself want to bet on the Nets to win over 20, but nowhere as much as you...did you have to go to vegas for this?

Private message me if it's possible since this is not really talking about the thread subject.


On the Nets, I do agree they will have to out-score their opoonent and maybe Kenny should mix in more of that D'Antoni's system....Houston Rockets will give up 100+ points, but they will probably average 110 points per game.

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[MrDollarBills]

Looking at how under developed the team is right now, we might be forced to run a Dantoni style offense. But man.... Lin's body is going to take a beating . Frankly I prefer the system Kenny's running now for the sake of Lin's health.

All Atkinson has to do is to mixed things out, but I do believe Lin should be put through as many PnR as possible.

At this point, it's very hard to play the motion offense with 2 guys who can't shoot..Booker and RHJ.....The second unit that would consist of Harris, Hamilton and Scola would fit the motion/4-out offense much better.

In fact, I seriously think Kenny should seriously consider starting Scola and Harris instead of Booker/RHJ...I know that is unlikely, but they fit the motion offense much better.

You also want to surround Lin with as many shooters as possible..I would like to see at least 1 preseason games with this line up: Lin/Bogs/Harris/Scola/Lopez....

Or if Scola is a reliability on defense, replace him with Hamilton who I feel would be better use as a PF next to Lopez since he can shoot the 3PT shot.

The roster has plenty of shooter afterrall but the projected starting 5 does not...You have 2 guys that can't shoot.

You're going to start Bogs and Harris together and expect to defend opponents?

[Lorenzomax7]

Next game, rest Booker and Vasquez...

Lin/Foye
Bogs/Skil
RHJ/Harris
Scola/Bennett
Brook/Hamilton