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[joedumars1]

So did Dre really say he would rather miss FT's than shoot them underhanded? I don't think i've heard this. Someone on the GB said he did. It's bugging me. Can someone lmk if they've heard this? If he did say that it makes me look at him differently. I hope he didn't

i don't blame him, and if most other players were honest they say the same thing. With Dre's personality and obvious mental challenges when shooting FT's, i highly doubt underhanded FT's would show any improvement.

Did he actually say that tho? Why would you say that? Just keep it to yourself. If he did say it to me it kinda shows he doesn't want to try anything he can to help for the betterment of the team. Idk if he would improve either, probably not, but never know.

[Blkbrd671]

Did he actually say that tho?

I would have to see your discussions and what "they" are referring too, but from my brief search dre said this

Let me make this clear.... I'm not shooting free throws underhand.. #Relax

in social media response to a ESPN article about how Dre can improve by shooting underhand and fans overreacting. To my knowledge he's maintained that he's "open" to it, but not taking that dramatic of a approach yet and working on his technique.

What i think is important to note, is that SVG isn't pushing for that yet, and that if he did, Dre indicated he's open to it.

Why would you say that? Just keep it to yourself. If he did say it to me it kinda shows he doesn't want to try anything he can to help for the betterment of the team. Idk if he would improve either, probably not, but never know.

I disagree as "betterment of the team" , we assume he'd be better but we are entering 50/50 territory and its very much high risk /high reward proposition. I don't think there is any question that Dre is willing to sacrifice for his team mates and team based on the majority of stuff he's said and our FO and coaching staff has said about DRe

[Blkbrd671]

“As far as shooting underhand or anything else, it’s fair to say my discussion with Andre yesterday and the discussions Jeff and I have had and staff — everything is on the table,” Van Gundy said Thursday during the season wrap-up at The Palace.

“It won’t be a unilateral decision; we’ll do some research on some things and come up with what we think is a good approach, talk to Andre and see what he thinks and develop an approach going forward.

“We all know it’s an important thing — Andre more than any of us – he’s pretty open to anything. There’s a lot of ways to attack this problem and we’ll all have a hand in it.”

[joedumars1]

Did he actually say that tho?

I would have to see your discussions and what "they" are referring too, but from my brief search dre said this

Let me make this clear.... I'm not shooting free throws underhand.. #Relax

in social media response to a ESPN article about how Dre can improve by shooting underhand and fans overreacting. To my knowledge he's maintained that he's "open" to it, but not taking that dramatic of a approach yet and working on his technique.

What i think is important to note, is that SVG isn't pushing for that yet, and that if he did, Dre indicated he's open to it.

Why would you say that? Just keep it to yourself. If he did say it to me it kinda shows he doesn't want to try anything he can to help for the betterment of the team. Idk if he would improve either, probably not, but never know.

I disagree as "betterment of the team" , we assume he'd be better but we are entering 50/50 territory and its very much high risk /high reward proposition. I don't think there is any question that Dre is willing to sacrifice for his team mates and team based on the majority of stuff he's said and our FO and coaching staff has said about DRe

Fill it up said, it was Shaq who said it. I thought I remember that too. Shaq isn't the brightest. He's also one of if not the most dominate big of all time so you can get away with that.

I'm just glad Dre didn't say it. Even if he would rather miss Ft's than shoot underhand (hope he wouldn't, he's not as dominate as Shaq) don't come out and say it.

If he did try it I actually don't think it would help. Shooting as bad as he did last year probably couldn't hurt either tho, lol. I'd try to get the bank shot down from the FT line if I was Dre. His FT's don't concern me. Just if he would've said he'd rather miss than shoot underhand, but it was Shaq

[Blkbrd671]

Did he actually say that tho?

I would have to see your discussions and what "they" are referring too, but from my brief search dre said this

Let me make this clear.... I'm not shooting free throws underhand.. #Relax

in social media response to a ESPN article about how Dre can improve by shooting underhand and fans overreacting. To my knowledge he's maintained that he's "open" to it, but not taking that dramatic of a approach yet and working on his technique.

What i think is important to note, is that SVG isn't pushing for that yet, and that if he did, Dre indicated he's open to it.

Why would you say that? Just keep it to yourself. If he did say it to me it kinda shows he doesn't want to try anything he can to help for the betterment of the team. Idk if he would improve either, probably not, but never know.

I disagree as "betterment of the team" , we assume he'd be better but we are entering 50/50 territory and its very much high risk /high reward proposition. I don't think there is any question that Dre is willing to sacrifice for his team mates and team based on the majority of stuff he's said and our FO and coaching staff has said about DRe

Fill it up said, it was Shaq who said it. I thought I remember that too. Shaq isn't the brightest. He's also one of if not the most dominate big of all time so you can get away with that.

I'm just glad Dre didn't say it. Even if he would rather miss Ft's than shoot underhand (hope he wouldn't, he's not as dominate as Shaq) don't come out and say it.

If he did try it I actually don't think it would help. Shooting as bad as he did last year probably couldn't hurt either tho, lol. I'd try to get the bank shot down from the FT line if I was Dre. His FT's don't concern me. Just if he would've said he'd rather miss than shoot underhand, but it was Shaq

seeing the few FT's he's taken so far, he looks so much more comfortable and technique wise consistent. AGAIN its the PRESEASON where nothing is on the line, but its most certainly something we haven't seen him do before. Mentally he also looks like he's matured at the FT line and on missed shots.

[Pharaoh]

What's the high risk/high reward scenario blkbrd?

Dude shot 35% doing it his way - surely couldn't be worse shooting FTs underhanded!

[bballnmike]

Fill it up said, it was Shaq who said it. I thought I remember that too. Shaq isn't the brightest. He's also one of if not the most dominate big of all time so you can get away with that.

Hey that's Dr. Shaquille O'Neal, PhD in organizational learning and leadership!

[MrBigShot]

Dre refusing to do it is more of a "I'm gonna try to improve by doing it my way" than him outright preferring to miss FTs than shoot underhand.

If the virtual FT shooting thing flops as I expect it to I hope he gives underhand a shot. Maybe it doesn't work, but as Pharaoh said...when you are worst FT shooter in NBA history you can't possibly do much worse trying something else. I know a huge part of his issue is mental, but I think his shooting mechanics suck too.

[Blkbrd671]

What's the high risk/high reward scenario blkbrd?

Dude shot 35% doing it his way - surely couldn't be worse shooting FTs underhanded!

If it doesn't work, he literally has tried everything and he'll probably be worst than 35% as mentally he'll check out every time.

[Blkbrd671]

Dre refusing to do it is more of a "I'm gonna try to improve by doing it my way" than him outright preferring to miss FTs than shoot underhand.

If the virtual FT shooting thing flops as I expect it to I hope he gives underhand a shot. Maybe it doesn't work, but as Pharaoh said...when you are worst FT shooter in NBA history you can't possibly do much worse trying something else. I know a huge part of his issue is mental, but I think his shooting mechanics suck too.

He never refused to do it, and said he was open to it. GB trolls trying to take everything out of context

[Alexander]

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[Shady_]

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[Pharaoh]

What's the high risk/high reward scenario blkbrd?

Dude shot 35% doing it his way - surely couldn't be worse shooting FTs underhanded!

If it doesn't work, he literally has tried everything and he'll probably be worst than 35% as mentally he'll check out every time.

How can he probably be worse than 35%?

To shoot less than that underhanded probably defies the laws of physics

[Blkbrd671]

What's the high risk/high reward scenario blkbrd?

Dude shot 35% doing it his way - surely couldn't be worse shooting FTs underhanded!

If it doesn't work, he literally has tried everything and he'll probably be worst than 35% as mentally he'll check out every time.

How can he probably be worse than 35%?

To shoot less than that underhanded probably defies the laws of physics

your assuming the ball gets to the rim and nerves , like they do now, don't take over.

[Pharaoh]

If it doesn't work, he literally has tried everything and he'll probably be worst than 35% as mentally he'll check out every time.

How can he probably be worse than 35%?

To shoot less than that underhanded probably defies the laws of physics

your assuming the ball gets to the rim and nerves , like they do now, don't take over.

Anxiety is the reason he shoots like crap now!

Dude can still be anxious underhanded and let physics do it's thing!

This idea that he'd be MORE embarrassed is hilarious to me - if you're not embarrassed enough shooting 35% then there's something wrong

[Blkbrd671]

How can he probably be worse than 35%?

To shoot less than that underhanded probably defies the laws of physics

your assuming the ball gets to the rim and nerves , like they do now, don't take over.

Anxiety is the reason he shoots like crap now!

Dude can still be anxious underhanded and let physics do it's thing!

This idea that he'd be MORE embarrassed is hilarious to me - if you're not embarrassed enough shooting 35% then there's something wrong

and yet no one in the leauge does it despite the fact that physics deems it a better technique. What physics can't account for is atmosphere.

if you would like you , MORE NERVOUS, maybe more approriate

[zeebneeb]

Can someone explain to me what the hell happened in Milwaukee that they have that center rotation at those prices? I mean what in the hell happened there?

I wouldnt take ANY of their centers over ANY of ours. I dont care what string they are. ANY of our centers would start on that team and immediately make them a better team. No one looked around the league and said; "Someone has to be fired over this".

The Bucks Roster minus just a few players (Giannis, Middleton. Not really all that high on Parker) is just complete blah.

Looking around the league it just makes me love Stan that much more. This Pistons roster is just bleeding talent all over the place, and really makes me appreciate a good GM/Coach that much more.

[chrbal]

Can someone explain to me what the hell happened in Milwaukee that they have that center rotation at those prices? I mean what in the hell happened there?

They wanted Monroe, got him. Gave that crazy extension to Henson, and resigned Plumlee basically because they could. Plumlee is the one that gets me the most, backup center...about 14 minutes a game...$12.4 mil per over 4 years. Google his stats....take your time...you saw them. I know, right?

John Hammonds bucks experiment makes you wonder if all of Dumars bad decisions (while they were together) were all his fault. They still have to pay Jabari Parker soon, and Middletons last year is a player option for something like $12 mil. If hes healthy at that point, hes opting out. The way the NBA is paying out, he might even if he isn't.

The Bucks are becoming like a modern day version of the Knicks, when they were a mid level team with a top 3 payroll. Bucks are only at 12th for teams payroll ranking. But Giannis' raise is more then Monroe MIGHT leave on the table, thinking he opts out.

Tony Snell and LARRY SANDERS are the only well paid guys coming off the books any time soon (well, and Monroe...possibly) that are being paid anything significant.

[zeebneeb]

Can someone explain to me what the hell happened in Milwaukee that they have that center rotation at those prices? I mean what in the hell happened there?

They wanted Monroe, got him. Gave that crazy extension to Henson, and resigned Plumlee basically because they could. Plumlee is the one that gets me the most, backup center...about 14 minutes a game...$12.4 mil per over 4 years. Google his stats....take your time...you saw them. I know, right?

John Hammonds bucks experiment makes you wonder if all of Dumars bad decisions (while they were together) were all his fault. They still have to pay Jabari Parker soon, and Middletons last year is a player option for something like $12 mil. If hes healthy at that point, hes opting out. The way the NBA is paying out, he might even if he isn't.

The Bucks are becoming like a modern day version of the Knicks, when they were a mid level team with a top 3 payroll. Bucks are only at 12. But Giannis' raise is more then Monroe MIGHT leave on the table, thinking he opts out.

Tony Snell and LARRY SANDERS are the only well paid guys coming off the books any time soon (well, and Monroe...possibly) that are being paid anything significant.

I have seen almost every single player in the NBA's stats at some point in the past 20 days. When I got down time, I go deep.

Whats even more confusing is that they can, and should absolutely make a trade that can make them better but are just refusing to make them and instead trade for Snell. Its almost as if their players are worth a hell of a lot more to them, then to any other team.

What a confusing, and terribly run team.

[chrbal]

1:1 odds that they make some pointless trade that basically just changes Jersey names by mid-season.