Can Trump wiggle out of this one?

[Thorn]

[K_ick_God]

That speech by Trump was unnerving. Whenever someone starts talking about "Our civilization," we know where he's probably going with this.

[CJackson]

That speech by Trump was unnerving. Whenever someone starts talking about "Our civilization," we know where he's probably going with this.

link?

[Starks]

It has nothing to do with giving an opinion on how it feels to be raped, what are you talking about?

I'm questioning the truth of those allegations, how does being a man have anything to do with it?

Of course there's always the possibility of it actually being true, but still anything coming out during election campaigns I take with a grain of salt. Rich and powerful men are easy targets, especially when it benefits some people on the other side, nothing new there.

It is exactly what happens when people who run have skeletons in their closet. What your saying would mean that John Edwards was wronged when his fukery came out killing any chance he had of becoming president.

I see what you're saying, my point is trying to be cautious with everything that's going to come out of this process.

TBH, at first I thought the story was too extreme to be true but after doing some research I think I might have underestimated how sick these people can be... oh well

[CJackson]

Mark Burnett, ‘Apprentice’ Producer, Denounces Trump

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/business/media/mark-burnett-apprentice-donald-trump.html

Not sure what this means for releasing that footage. Burnett may be more interested in covering his butt than anything.

[K_ick_God]

That speech by Trump was unnerving. Whenever someone starts talking about "Our civilization," we know where he's probably going with this.

link?

Saw it live on CNN. Should be on C-SPAN video library soon.

[CJackson]

It has nothing to do with giving an opinion on how it feels to be raped, what are you talking about?

I'm questioning the truth of those allegations, how does being a man have anything to do with it?

Of course there's always the possibility of it actually being true, but still anything coming out during election campaigns I take with a grain of salt. Rich and powerful men are easy targets, especially when it benefits some people on the other side, nothing new there.

It is exactly what happens when people who run have skeletons in their closet. What your saying would mean that John Edwards was wronged when his fukery came out killing any chance he had of becoming president.

I see what you're saying, my point is trying to be cautious with everything that's going to come out of this process.

TBH, at first I thought the story was too extreme to be true but after doing some research I think I might have underestimated how sick these people can be... oh well

Both of those guys hung out on Lolita Island where Epstein ran a harem full of under aged teen models. There is very little chance that any of the men who went there did not have sex with minors

[CJackson]

That speech by Trump was unnerving. Whenever someone starts talking about "Our civilization," we know where he's probably going with this.

link?

Saw it live on CNN. Should be on C-SPAN video library soon.

OK .......... paraphrase then?

[Phish Tank]

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/look-at-her-trump-dismisses-people-reporters-claims-he-forcibly-kissed-her/

Trump supporters don't care, but still....

[CJackson]

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/look-at-her-trump-dismisses-people-reporters-claims-he-forcibly-kissed-her/

Trump supporters don't care, but still....

Trump is doubling down. Now he's going to sue everyone. Clown

[Starks]

It is exactly what happens when people who run have skeletons in their closet. What your saying would mean that John Edwards was wronged when his fukery came out killing any chance he had of becoming president.

I see what you're saying, my point is trying to be cautious with everything that's going to come out of this process.

TBH, at first I thought the story was too extreme to be true but after doing some research I think I might have underestimated how sick these people can be... oh well

Both of those guys hung out on Lolita Island where Epstein ran a harem full of under aged teen models. There is very little chance that any of the men who went there did not have sex with minors

But you can't assume that every single male person who hung out with Epstein at some point is a certfied pedophile rapist.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html

There's a couple of quotes in the above article that make me skeptical of this girl's claims (besides the fact that she seems to be driven by a good number of Trump's political opponents).

The first one is about Mike Fisten, a private investigator on several Epstein-related pedophile cases:

In hundreds of interviews with hundreds of witnesses, he said no one has ever identified Trump as being involved in any kind of sexual activity with underage girls. In fact, Fisten recalls learning in the early 2000s that members of Trump’s private Palm Beach club, Mar-a-Lago, complained that Epstein was often accompanied by very young girls–“a different girl every week”—each of whom he would refer to as “his niece.”

Then it's a quote from Trump himself, which to me sums up how stupid he is, just because he doesn't seem to understand how this type of acquaintance could hurt him at some point:

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump told New York Magazine in 2002. Calling him a “terrific guy,” Trump continued, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

So my gut feeling is that Donald Trump is a naive and stupid person who happens to know a lot of questionable people and find it wise to brag about it, but he doesn't strike me as a violent rapist who'd beat a girl and threaten to kill her family. I might be wrong though obviously.

[CJackson]

I see what you're saying, my point is trying to be cautious with everything that's going to come out of this process.

TBH, at first I thought the story was too extreme to be true but after doing some research I think I might have underestimated how sick these people can be... oh well

Both of those guys hung out on Lolita Island where Epstein ran a harem full of under aged teen models. There is very little chance that any of the men who went there did not have sex with minors

But you can't assume that every single male person who hung out with Epstein at some point is a certfied pedophile rapist.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html

There's a couple of quotes in the above article that make me skeptical of this girl's claims (besides the fact that she seems to be driven by a good number of Trump's political opponents).

The first one is about Mike Fisten, a private investigator on several Epstein-related pedophile cases:

In hundreds of interviews with hundreds of witnesses, he said no one has ever identified Trump as being involved in any kind of sexual activity with underage girls. In fact, Fisten recalls learning in the early 2000s that members of Trump’s private Palm Beach club, Mar-a-Lago, complained that Epstein was often accompanied by very young girls–“a different girl every week”—each of whom he would refer to as “his niece.”

Then it's a quote from Trump himself, which to me sums up how stupid he is, just because he doesn't seem to understand how this type of acquaintance could hurt him at some point:

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump told New York Magazine in 2002. Calling him a “terrific guy,” Trump continued, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

So my gut feeling is that Donald Trump is a naive and stupid person who happens to know a lot of questionable people and find it wise to brag about it, but he doesn't strike me as a violent rapist who'd beat a girl and threaten to kill her family. I might be wrong though obviously.

His wife Ivanna made a deposition that Trump attacked and raped her. He tore a chunk of hair straight off of her scalp in retribution for her recommending him to a hair specialist he felt let him down. Then he raped her.

Don't know where you got the impression he is not a violent sexual predator when you have actual testimony by his own wife and a plethora of accounts of him forcing himself on women.

All I said it is not likely the men who went to Lolita Island did not have sex with minors. You don't go to Lolita Island to have sex with 30 year old women. And to think they went there just to "hang out" and not have sex is simply naive.

[CharlesOakley]

If Hillary's emails bother you but the 22 million deleted emails during the Bush/Cheney administration – also on a private server - don't, I can't argue with that.

If Benghazi bothers you, and the 13 embassy attacks during Bush (where 60 people were killed) doesn't bother you, I have no argument for that.

If you think the Clinton's running their charity (a charity with an “A” rating with CharityWatch.org, that has 88% of its contributions going out to charity and not overhead and has a higher rating than the Red Cross and United Way) is a conflict of interest, while having no desire to know where Trump's money comes from – which is now from all foreign sources, because no US bank will loan him money anymore – AND if you had no problem with the conflict of interest with Dick Cheney running Halliburton and making BILLIONS during the war in Iraq, then I have no argument for that.

If you have women and girls in your life who you want treated with respect and don't have a problem with Trump's rampant misogyny, I have no argument for that.

If you don't find Trump's praising of Putin and Kim Jong-un alarming, I have no argument for that.

If you're OK with voting for someone who is against LGBT rights and has stated that his supreme court pick(s) could overturn marriage equality, I have no argument for that.

If you have no problem with someone who has gone on and on and on about Bill Clinton's infidelity while he has cheated on his first wife with his second and his second wife with his third, then I have no argument for that. ALSO, BILL CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING FOR OFFICE, HIS WIFE IS.

If the list of proposed Supreme Court nominees that Trump put forth doesn't scare you enough to crap your pants, I have no argument for that.

If Trumps history of racial inequality doesn't bother you. I have no argument for that.

If you have no problem when you hear Trump go on about how companies are shipping their jobs overseas and how he will stop this, while his suits are made in Mexico and his ties in China, I have no argument for that.

If Trump's use of his charity's funds to pay personal debts and buy paintings of himself don't give you pause, then I have no argument for that.

If you think that Trump's a good businessman and will be good for our county's economics, when knowing about how many of his companies failed, I have no argument for that.

If the charges of fraud on Trump University and the scandal of his “donation” of $25,000 to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, after which she stopped her investigation into Trump University don't bother you, then I have no argument for that.

If you buy into the smear campaign against Hillary and don't get that so many on the right have - and have HAD - a hardon to get Clinton for what... 30 years now? And have spent MILLIONS of tax dollars to get her on something and have gotten NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH, ZERO. 30 years of half truths, lies and some bat **** crazy lies (my favorite being the one where she has killed so many people that it would make Hannibal Lector seem lazy!) repeated incessantly until the gullible and uneducated take it as truth, then I have no argument for that.

If you aren't concerned to have a climate change denier in the White House, then I have no argument for that.

And if you think Trump is the better candidate, I have no argument for that either.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[CJackson]

If Hillary's emails bother you but the 22 million deleted emails during the Bush/Cheney administration – also on a private server - don't, I can't argue with that.

If Benghazi bothers you, and the 13 embassy attacks during Bush (where 60 people were killed) doesn't bother you, I have no argument for that.

If you think the Clinton's running their charity (a charity with an “A” rating with CharityWatch.org, that has 88% of its contributions going out to charity and not overhead and has a higher rating than the Red Cross and United Way) is a conflict of interest, while having no desire to know where Trump's money comes from – which is now from all foreign sources, because no US bank will loan him money anymore – AND if you had no problem with the conflict of interest with Dick Cheney running Halliburton and making BILLIONS during the war in Iraq, then I have no argument for that.

If you have women and girls in your life who you want treated with respect and don't have a problem with Trump's rampant misogyny, I have no argument for that.

If you don't find Trump's praising of Putin and Kim Jong-un alarming, I have no argument for that.

If you're OK with voting for someone who is against LGBT rights and has stated that his supreme court pick(s) could overturn marriage equality, I have no argument for that.

If you have no problem with someone who has gone on and on and on about Bill Clinton's infidelity while he has cheated on his first wife with his second and his second wife with his third, then I have no argument for that. ALSO, BILL CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING FOR OFFICE, HIS WIFE IS.

If the list of proposed Supreme Court nominees that Trump put forth doesn't scare you enough to crap your pants, I have no argument for that.

If Trumps history of racial inequality doesn't bother you. I have no argument for that.

If you have no problem when you hear Trump go on about how companies are shipping their jobs overseas and how he will stop this, while his suits are made in Mexico and his ties in China, I have no argument for that.

If Trump's use of his charity's funds to pay personal debts and buy paintings of himself don't give you pause, then I have no argument for that.

If you think that Trump's a good businessman and will be good for our county's economics, when knowing about how many of his companies failed, I have no argument for that.

If the charges of fraud on Trump University and the scandal of his “donation” of $25,000 to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, after which she stopped her investigation into Trump University don't bother you, then I have no argument for that.

If you buy into the smear campaign against Hillary and don't get that so many on the right have - and have HAD - a hardon to get Clinton for what... 30 years now? And have spent MILLIONS of tax dollars to get her on something and have gotten NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH, ZERO. 30 years of half truths, lies and some bat **** crazy lies (my favorite being the one where she has killed so many people that it would make Hannibal Lector seem lazy!) repeated incessantly until the gullible and uneducated take it as truth, then I have no argument for that.

If you aren't concerned to have a climate change denier in the White House, then I have no argument for that.

And if you think Trump is the better candidate, I have no argument for that either.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

+1,000

So well done

Thank for taking the time to do that. Very clear and hard to refute

[Starks]

But you can't assume that every single male person who hung out with Epstein at some point is a certfied pedophile rapist.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html

There's a couple of quotes in the above article that make me skeptical of this girl's claims (besides the fact that she seems to be driven by a good number of Trump's political opponents).

The first one is about Mike Fisten, a private investigator on several Epstein-related pedophile cases:

In hundreds of interviews with hundreds of witnesses, he said no one has ever identified Trump as being involved in any kind of sexual activity with underage girls. In fact, Fisten recalls learning in the early 2000s that members of Trump’s private Palm Beach club, Mar-a-Lago, complained that Epstein was often accompanied by very young girls–“a different girl every week”—each of whom he would refer to as “his niece.”

Then it's a quote from Trump himself, which to me sums up how stupid he is, just because he doesn't seem to understand how this type of acquaintance could hurt him at some point:

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump told New York Magazine in 2002. Calling him a “terrific guy,” Trump continued, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

So my gut feeling is that Donald Trump is a naive and stupid person who happens to know a lot of questionable people and find it wise to brag about it, but he doesn't strike me as a violent rapist who'd beat a girl and threaten to kill her family. I might be wrong though obviously.

His wife Ivanna made a deposition that Trump attacked and raped her. He tore a chunk of hair straight off of her scalp in retribution for her recommending him to a hair specialist he felt let him down. Then he raped her.

Don't know where you got the impression he is not a violent sexual predator when you have actual testimony by his own wife and a plethora of accounts of him forcing himself on women.

All I said it is not likely the men who went to Lolita Island did not have sex with minors. You don't go to Lolita Island to have sex with 30 year old women. And to think they went there just to "hang out" and not have sex is simply naive.

I wasn't aware of the incident with his wife. I guess I'm not educated enough in Trump's scandals, I have to really dig for information here in France.

My skepticism really came from the investigator's testimony in which he said Trump's name never surfaced, when some like Clinton clearly did. Anyway, these are deranged individuals to say the least.

[CJackson]

But you can't assume that every single male person who hung out with Epstein at some point is a certfied pedophile rapist.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html

There's a couple of quotes in the above article that make me skeptical of this girl's claims (besides the fact that she seems to be driven by a good number of Trump's political opponents).

The first one is about Mike Fisten, a private investigator on several Epstein-related pedophile cases:



Then it's a quote from Trump himself, which to me sums up how stupid he is, just because he doesn't seem to understand how this type of acquaintance could hurt him at some point:



So my gut feeling is that Donald Trump is a naive and stupid person who happens to know a lot of questionable people and find it wise to brag about it, but he doesn't strike me as a violent rapist who'd beat a girl and threaten to kill her family. I might be wrong though obviously.

His wife Ivanna made a deposition that Trump attacked and raped her. He tore a chunk of hair straight off of her scalp in retribution for her recommending him to a hair specialist he felt let him down. Then he raped her.

Don't know where you got the impression he is not a violent sexual predator when you have actual testimony by his own wife and a plethora of accounts of him forcing himself on women.

All I said it is not likely the men who went to Lolita Island did not have sex with minors. You don't go to Lolita Island to have sex with 30 year old women. And to think they went there just to "hang out" and not have sex is simply naive.

I wasn't aware of the incident with his wife. I guess I'm not educated enough in Trump's scandals, I have to really dig for information here in France.

My skepticism really came from the investigator's testimony in which he said Trump's name never surfaced, when some like Clinton clearly did. Anyway, these are deranged individuals to say the least.

Well, just listen to that tape recording and match it up with the numerous accounts that confirm he was actually describing exactly what he does over and over again. And he was bragging about being a violent predator no less. The guy has so many emotional problems it is just an unending nightmare of abuse and dysfunction. The only unbelievable thing would be him not being a rapist. Compared to Clinton, he has so many more indicators pointing to that. They're both sexually depraved, but Trump is a completely loose cannon.

Trump is so ugly and offensive and stupid he probably wouldn't have gotten laid his whole life if he didn't come from money. That he feels the need to shove his tongue down so many women's throats and jam his hand up their skirts shows he is a perpetual ten year old still groping women like the girls he probably tortured in grade school. He's much crazier than Bill.

[NYKAL]

If Hillary's emails bother you but the 22 million deleted emails during the Bush/Cheney administration – also on a private server - don't, I can't argue with that.

If Benghazi bothers you, and the 13 embassy attacks during Bush (where 60 people were killed) doesn't bother you, I have no argument for that.

If you think the Clinton's running their charity (a charity with an “A” rating with CharityWatch.org, that has 88% of its contributions going out to charity and not overhead and has a higher rating than the Red Cross and United Way) is a conflict of interest, while having no desire to know where Trump's money comes from – which is now from all foreign sources, because no US bank will loan him money anymore – AND if you had no problem with the conflict of interest with Dick Cheney running Halliburton and making BILLIONS during the war in Iraq, then I have no argument for that.

If you have women and girls in your life who you want treated with respect and don't have a problem with Trump's rampant misogyny, I have no argument for that.

If you don't find Trump's praising of Putin and Kim Jong-un alarming, I have no argument for that.

If you're OK with voting for someone who is against LGBT rights and has stated that his supreme court pick(s) could overturn marriage equality, I have no argument for that.

If you have no problem with someone who has gone on and on and on about Bill Clinton's infidelity while he has cheated on his first wife with his second and his second wife with his third, then I have no argument for that. ALSO, BILL CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING FOR OFFICE, HIS WIFE IS.

If the list of proposed Supreme Court nominees that Trump put forth doesn't scare you enough to crap your pants, I have no argument for that.

If Trumps history of racial inequality doesn't bother you. I have no argument for that.

If you have no problem when you hear Trump go on about how companies are shipping their jobs overseas and how he will stop this, while his suits are made in Mexico and his ties in China, I have no argument for that.

If Trump's use of his charity's funds to pay personal debts and buy paintings of himself don't give you pause, then I have no argument for that.

If you think that Trump's a good businessman and will be good for our county's economics, when knowing about how many of his companies failed, I have no argument for that.

If the charges of fraud on Trump University and the scandal of his “donation” of $25,000 to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, after which she stopped her investigation into Trump University don't bother you, then I have no argument for that.

If you buy into the smear campaign against Hillary and don't get that so many on the right have - and have HAD - a hardon to get Clinton for what... 30 years now? And have spent MILLIONS of tax dollars to get her on something and have gotten NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH, ZERO. 30 years of half truths, lies and some bat **** crazy lies (my favorite being the one where she has killed so many people that it would make Hannibal Lector seem lazy!) repeated incessantly until the gullible and uneducated take it as truth, then I have no argument for that.

If you aren't concerned to have a climate change denier in the White House, then I have no argument for that.

And if you think Trump is the better candidate, I have no argument for that either.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

they act like Bush/Chaney never existed. Blaming the war in Iraq on Obama....(wtf) and saying Obama created Isis when BUSH created Isis with his made up war in Iraq. No war (there never should have been one), no ISIS.

[HarthorneWingo]

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/look-at-her-trump-dismisses-people-reporters-claims-he-forcibly-kissed-her/

Trump supporters don't care, but still....

Trump is doubling down. Now he's going to sue everyone. Clown

Trump is fighting too many wars on too many fronts at this point. He's embroiled in a civil war within his own party; with women; with the media; with his own campaign; and with Hillary Clinton, all this with only 3 weeks before this election. He's ruined whatever is left of his "brand."

[CJackson]

they act like Bush/Chaney never existed. Blaming the war in Iraq on Obama....(wtf) and saying Obama created Isis when BUSH created Isis with his made up war in Iraq. No war (there never should have been one), no ISIS.

But that's the truth, something Trump trolls don't care about. Hillary created ISIS which is among other countless brain dead stories they rock their kids to bed at night with

[CJackson]

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/look-at-her-trump-dismisses-people-reporters-claims-he-forcibly-kissed-her/

Trump supporters don't care, but still....

Trump is doubling down. Now he's going to sue everyone. Clown

Trump is fighting too many wars on too many fronts at this point. He's embroiled in a civil war within his own party; with women; with the media; with his own campaign; and with Hillary Clinton, all this with only 3 weeks before this election. He's ruined whatever is left of his "brand."

Word

TNN (Trump News Network) is getting off to a very ominous start