OT: The next President of the United States: ★★★ Donald Trump ★★★

[coldfish]

And he's not worth anything near what he says he is. People with 10 Billion dollars don't scam 10k from poor people in scams like Trump University.

As I said earlier, the reason he isn't releasing his tax returns isn't over the amount of tax he paid. Its because he doesn't want people to see that he really hasn't made that much money.

I bet his net worth is dam near zero as all of his assets are backed by mountains of debt.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/in-donald-trumps-campaign-self-funding-isnt-what-it-seems/

[r1terrell23]

I think ive decided on Trump. I like Obama as a person but he was pretty soft, Hillary will only be an extension of that style of leadership. Trump isn't perfect but i think our only chance at change will be with him...i'll take the risk.

Enjoy being ruled by Russia and China.

[r1terrell23]

And he's not worth anything near what he says he is. People with 10 Billion dollars don't scam 10k from poor people in scams like Trump University.

As I said earlier, the reason he isn't releasing his tax returns isn't over the amount of tax he paid. Its because he doesn't want people to see that he really hasn't made that much money.

I bet his net worth is dam near zero as all of his assets are backed by mountains of debt.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/in-donald-trumps-campaign-self-funding-isnt-what-it-seems/

That's one of the reasons.

[Mech Engineer]

Trump's business leadership seems like building a modern day MAFIA or drug empire. Loyalty/authority/secrecy/male domination and power mostly in the family.

The country definitely doesn't need a leader like him in 2016. Most of his advisers/surrogates seem very shady on top of it. The only thing he has going for him is many smart people might latch on to his campaign because they probably will get powerful roles because they know he might be a rubber stamp president for them.

[TheStig]

And he's not worth anything near what he says he is. People with 10 Billion dollars don't scam 10k from poor people in scams like Trump University.

As I said earlier, the reason he isn't releasing his tax returns isn't over the amount of tax he paid. Its because he doesn't want people to see that he really hasn't made that much money.

I bet his net worth is dam near zero as all of his assets are backed by mountains of debt.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/in-donald-trumps-campaign-self-funding-isnt-what-it-seems/

He doesn't self fund anymore anyway. And the moment that he started taking peoples money, he also started charging much more for his own assests.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-rent_us_57bba424e4b03d51368a82b9

But I'm not really looking at his real estate income. Non flippers don't generate gaudy sums of income. It's a lot of defered income in paying down and property increase that wouldn't show up.

The problem is that we don't know what he made, who he is in business with, what taxes he's paid or what charitable contributions he's made. We literally know nothing. His fillings are broad ranges and same with his debts. And there is a lot of debt to lots of people and foreign institutions we don't know about within those complex business dealings.

[FecesOfDeath]

Anyone can quote Huffington Post and New York Times to make Trump look bad. None of these things are going to dissuade Trump supporters, because they (we) know that this race is less about Republican vs. Democrat and more about the rage against the political and media establishment, crony capitalism, and corruption.

I'll stick with Breitbart and Drudge myself.

[Ben]

Anyone can quote Huffington Post and New York Times to make Trump look bad. None of these things are going to dissuade Trump supporters, because they (we) know that this race is less about Republican vs. Democrat and more about the rage against the political and media establishment, crony capitalism, and corruption.

I'll stick with Breitbart and Drudge myself.

That's great. Except that Trump actively benefits from crony capitalism-- has lobbied for bigger tax breaks for rich real estate developers like himself, and has benefited from those breaks-- ; he's corrupt as heck, if corruption includes lying for profit, scamming investors and customers, buying influence, and using one's own influence to bully others (and it's hard to see how the definition of corruption could exclude those things); he's been a reality TV star for the media establishment, and has done countless self-serving interviews with that same establishment. And he's been in bed with the political establishment for years. (He did, after all brag about getting politicians such as Bill and Hillary to attend his wedding because he knew they wanted his contributions.)

In other words: right message; WRONG messenger.

[FecesOfDeath]

Anyone can quote Huffington Post and New York Times to make Trump look bad. None of these things are going to dissuade Trump supporters, because they (we) know that this race is less about Republican vs. Democrat and more about the rage against the political and media establishment, crony capitalism, and corruption.

I'll stick with Breitbart and Drudge myself.

That's great. Except that Trump actively benefits from crony capitalism-- has lobbied for bigger tax breaks for rich real estate developers like himself, and has benefited from those breaks-- ; he's corrupt as heck, if corruption includes lying for profit, scamming investors and customers, buying influence, and using one's own influence to bully others (and it's hard to see how the definition of corruption could exclude those things); he's been a reality TV star for the media establishment, and has done countless self-serving interviews with that same establishment. And he's been in bed with the political establishment for years. (He did, after all brag about getting politicians such as Bill and Hillary to attend his wedding because he knew they wanted his contributions.)

In other words: right message; WRONG messenger.

That's old news, and it was talked about during the primary debates.

If he was ever so entrenched in the media and political establishments, why are these establishments just now so hell-bent on making sure he loses the election?

[TeK]

She was investigated by the FBI and they found no criminal wrong doing. Colin Powell also had a private email server were was the investigation on that? Spineless in what way? Syria were after the President talked about the red line republicans in Congress said they would make it difficult for him to use military force.

Iraq/ISIS, when was Iraq going to have the military ability to handle those situations by itself? How long would they needed to further have a large number of U.S. troops 10, 20 years, indefinitely? For such a tough guy he sure won't say anything bad about Russia. Russia's history of hacking large American business and government sites long before the DNC hack. The annexing of Crimea.

I don't think people realize how deep the Clinton/Bush families really are in the US. She was never investigated. Please don't believe everything you hear.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

Look, I get it, both are not the best candidates out there, but Trump is literally the only hope in this election for some sort of positive change.

Hillary will push the envelope with Russia and that is a war we do not want to be in. As an aside, reading through the Podesta emails, the entire system is beyond a sham. From CTR, to the media, to even the current administration, it's all VERY evident without a shadow of a doubt that Hillary is cheating her way to the whitehouse. I can't vote for that.

I don't care if Trump is foul mouthed, or has temperament issues. I'm not electing a Sunday school teacher but rather a leader of a country. I want my leader to be a dick to administrations who oppose him. I want him to get the upper hand in negotiations. Most of all I want him to be fair to his people. Trump may be a jackass but he's a fair jackass. The Hill is literally the biggest two-faced POS I have ever seen run for office. She will defecate on the middle class while lining pockets with money from her interests in SA/Iran and warmongering with Russia and China.

[TeK]

I think ive decided on Trump. I like Obama as a person but he was pretty soft, Hillary will only be an extension of that style of leadership. Trump isn't perfect but i think our only chance at change will be with him...i'll take the risk.

Enjoy being ruled by Russia and China.

Serious question. Why are we supposed to hate/be afraid of Russia?

Why wouldn't we want to be allies? It would certainly make a lot more sense.

No, Russia did not hack the DNC. Fed up Americans did, and sent their findings to Wiki. Rumor has it, Seth Rich was involved in the leaks.

[Axl Rose]

Trumps biggest issue is that hes is tone deaf as hell.

if he were to win then it would be something that he would need to fix asap.

Trump's biggest issue is that he is entirely unfit to hold the office.

To an unfixable degree.

ok rephrase that to one of his biggest issues

[TeK]

Hillary's rise to power seems like building a modern day MAFIA or drug empire. Loyalty/authority/secrecy/media manipulation and power mostly in the family.

FTFY

[the ultimates]

She was investigated by the FBI and they found no criminal wrong doing. Colin Powell also had a private email server were was the investigation on that? Spineless in what way? Syria were after the President talked about the red line republicans in Congress said they would make it difficult for him to use military force.

Iraq/ISIS, when was Iraq going to have the military ability to handle those situations by itself? How long would they needed to further have a large number of U.S. troops 10, 20 years, indefinitely? For such a tough guy he sure won't say anything bad about Russia. Russia's history of hacking large American business and government sites long before the DNC hack. The annexing of Crimea.

I don't think people realize how deep the Clinton/Bush families really are in the US. She was never investigated. Please don't believe everything you hear.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

Look, I get it, both are not the best candidates out there, but Trump is literally the only hope in this election for some sort of positive change.

Hillary will push the envelope with Russia and that is a war we do not want to be in. As an aside, reading through the Podesta emails, the entire system is beyond a sham. From CTR, to the media, to even the current administration, it's all VERY evident without a shadow of a doubt that Hillary is cheating her way to the whitehouse. I can't vote for that.

I don't care if Trump is foul mouthed, or has temperament issues. I'm not electing a Sunday school teacher but rather a leader of a country. I want my leader to be a dick to administrations who oppose him. I want him to get the upper hand in negotiations. Most of all I want him to be fair to his people. Trump may be a jackass but he's a fair jackass. The Hill is literally the biggest two-faced POS I have ever seen run for office. She will defecate on the middle class while lining pockets with money from her interests in SA/Iran and warmongering with Russia and China.

So he's fair to women? He's fair to Hispanics? Like I said before where was all this fervor when Colin Powell had his private email server.

[FecesOfDeath]

She was investigated by the FBI and they found no criminal wrong doing. Colin Powell also had a private email server were was the investigation on that? Spineless in what way? Syria were after the President talked about the red line republicans in Congress said they would make it difficult for him to use military force.

Iraq/ISIS, when was Iraq going to have the military ability to handle those situations by itself? How long would they needed to further have a large number of U.S. troops 10, 20 years, indefinitely? For such a tough guy he sure won't say anything bad about Russia. Russia's history of hacking large American business and government sites long before the DNC hack. The annexing of Crimea.

I don't think people realize how deep the Clinton/Bush families really are in the US. She was never investigated. Please don't believe everything you hear.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

Look, I get it, both are not the best candidates out there, but Trump is literally the only hope in this election for some sort of positive change.

Hillary will push the envelope with Russia and that is a war we do not want to be in. As an aside, reading through the Podesta emails, the entire system is beyond a sham. From CTR, to the media, to even the current administration, it's all VERY evident without a shadow of a doubt that Hillary is cheating her way to the whitehouse. I can't vote for that.

I don't care if Trump is foul mouthed, or has temperament issues. I'm not electing a Sunday school teacher but rather a leader of a country. I want my leader to be a dick to administrations who oppose him. I want him to get the upper hand in negotiations. Most of all I want him to be fair to his people. Trump may be a jackass but he's a fair jackass. The Hill is literally the biggest two-faced POS I have ever seen run for office. She will defecate on the middle class while lining pockets with money from her interests in SA/Iran and warmongering with Russia and China.

So he's fair to women? He's fair to Hispanics? Like I said before where was all this fervor when Colin Powell had his private email server.

From what I've seen, yes.

Colin Powell didn't erase 33,000+ emails from his private server to hide something. Plus, you can't attack him because he's black and somewhat supported Obama, so the Uncle Tom narrative can't be used against him.

[the ultimates]

I don't think people realize how deep the Clinton/Bush families really are in the US. She was never investigated. Please don't believe everything you hear.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

Look, I get it, both are not the best candidates out there, but Trump is literally the only hope in this election for some sort of positive change.

Hillary will push the envelope with Russia and that is a war we do not want to be in. As an aside, reading through the Podesta emails, the entire system is beyond a sham. From CTR, to the media, to even the current administration, it's all VERY evident without a shadow of a doubt that Hillary is cheating her way to the whitehouse. I can't vote for that.

I don't care if Trump is foul mouthed, or has temperament issues. I'm not electing a Sunday school teacher but rather a leader of a country. I want my leader to be a dick to administrations who oppose him. I want him to get the upper hand in negotiations. Most of all I want him to be fair to his people. Trump may be a jackass but he's a fair jackass. The Hill is literally the biggest two-faced POS I have ever seen run for office. She will defecate on the middle class while lining pockets with money from her interests in SA/Iran and warmongering with Russia and China.

So he's fair to women? He's fair to Hispanics? Like I said before where was all this fervor when Colin Powell had his private email server.

From what I've seen, yes.

Colin Powell didn't erase 33,000+ emails from his private server to hide something. Plus, you can't attack him because he's black and somewhat supported Obama, so the Uncle Tom narrative can't be used against him.

He shouldn't have been using private server either no matter what was deleted or not but again I'll wait for my investigation.

[TeK]

She was investigated by the FBI and they found no criminal wrong doing. Colin Powell also had a private email server were was the investigation on that? Spineless in what way? Syria were after the President talked about the red line republicans in Congress said they would make it difficult for him to use military force.

Iraq/ISIS, when was Iraq going to have the military ability to handle those situations by itself? How long would they needed to further have a large number of U.S. troops 10, 20 years, indefinitely? For such a tough guy he sure won't say anything bad about Russia. Russia's history of hacking large American business and government sites long before the DNC hack. The annexing of Crimea.

I don't think people realize how deep the Clinton/Bush families really are in the US. She was never investigated. Please don't believe everything you hear.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

Look, I get it, both are not the best candidates out there, but Trump is literally the only hope in this election for some sort of positive change.

Hillary will push the envelope with Russia and that is a war we do not want to be in. As an aside, reading through the Podesta emails, the entire system is beyond a sham. From CTR, to the media, to even the current administration, it's all VERY evident without a shadow of a doubt that Hillary is cheating her way to the whitehouse. I can't vote for that.

I don't care if Trump is foul mouthed, or has temperament issues. I'm not electing a Sunday school teacher but rather a leader of a country. I want my leader to be a dick to administrations who oppose him. I want him to get the upper hand in negotiations. Most of all I want him to be fair to his people. Trump may be a jackass but he's a fair jackass. The Hill is literally the biggest two-faced POS I have ever seen run for office. She will defecate on the middle class while lining pockets with money from her interests in SA/Iran and warmongering with Russia and China.

So he's fair to women? He's fair to Hispanics? Like I said before where was all this fervor when Colin Powell had his private email server.

He's going to be much more fair to those "needy latinos" (Hillary's own words) than Hillary will be.

Yes, he will also be fair to women. Do you genuinely think he is just going to oppress women? If this is about his comments, then if my career was based on the comments I made about random women I was with 12yrs ago I'd be homeless.

Look at our boy Billy...He was fair to women, right?

Watch on YouTube

[the ultimates]

I don't think people realize how deep the Clinton/Bush families really are in the US. She was never investigated. Please don't believe everything you hear.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fbi-doj-roiled-by-comey-lynch-decision-to-let-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

Look, I get it, both are not the best candidates out there, but Trump is literally the only hope in this election for some sort of positive change.

Hillary will push the envelope with Russia and that is a war we do not want to be in. As an aside, reading through the Podesta emails, the entire system is beyond a sham. From CTR, to the media, to even the current administration, it's all VERY evident without a shadow of a doubt that Hillary is cheating her way to the whitehouse. I can't vote for that.

I don't care if Trump is foul mouthed, or has temperament issues. I'm not electing a Sunday school teacher but rather a leader of a country. I want my leader to be a dick to administrations who oppose him. I want him to get the upper hand in negotiations. Most of all I want him to be fair to his people. Trump may be a jackass but he's a fair jackass. The Hill is literally the biggest two-faced POS I have ever seen run for office. She will defecate on the middle class while lining pockets with money from her interests in SA/Iran and warmongering with Russia and China.

So he's fair to women? He's fair to Hispanics? Like I said before where was all this fervor when Colin Powell had his private email server.

He's going to be much more fair to those "needy latinos" (Hillary's own words) than Hillary will be.

Yes, he will also be fair to women. Do you genuinely think he is just going to oppress women? If this is about his comments, then if my career was based on the comments I made about random women I was with 12yrs ago I'd be homeless.

Look at our boy Billy...He was fair to women, right?

Watch on YouTube

You're not running for president. I assume you don't get into arguments with women and attack how they look which is a favorite move of Trump. What does what Bill did have anything to do with Trump? He's not running. The republicans vilified Bill Clinton for the exact same things they looked the other way on Trump until recently. So if they didn't like Clinton then they shouldn't have liked Trump from the start.

[RedBulls23]

And he's not worth anything near what he says he is. People with 10 Billion dollars don't scam 10k from poor people in scams like Trump University.

As I said earlier, the reason he isn't releasing his tax returns isn't over the amount of tax he paid. Its because he doesn't want people to see that he really hasn't made that much money.

I bet his net worth is dam near zero as all of his assets are backed by mountains of debt.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/in-donald-trumps-campaign-self-funding-isnt-what-it-seems/

I think it's a combination of not wanting people to know how little he's really worth, how he doesn't pay taxes, and how he donates little to nothing to charities.

[GetBuLLish]

I think ive decided on Trump. I like Obama as a person but he was pretty soft, Hillary will only be an extension of that style of leadership. Trump isn't perfect but i think our only chance at change will be with him...i'll take the risk.

Enjoy being ruled by Russia and China.

It boggles my mind that people actually think like this.

[TeK]

So he's fair to women? He's fair to Hispanics? Like I said before where was all this fervor when Colin Powell had his private email server.

He's going to be much more fair to those "needy latinos" (Hillary's own words) than Hillary will be.

Yes, he will also be fair to women. Do you genuinely think he is just going to oppress women? If this is about his comments, then if my career was based on the comments I made about random women I was with 12yrs ago I'd be homeless.

Look at our boy Billy...He was fair to women, right?

Watch on YouTube

What does what Bill did have anything to do with Trump?

The only reason people keep bringing up Bill is to show Hillary's hypocrisy. You do remember how much she attacked the accusers and defended her husband back then, don't you? Yet now she is playing the woman card.

So when it happens to her family, gloves are off. When it happens to her opponent, "call CNN!" - This hypocrisy applies to ALL of her campaign. She is hammering in the hispanic vote, but behind closed doors is strategizing how to appease needy latinos. She says she pro women, but calls the majority of the middle class deplorables. She literally called the people working FOR HER CAMPAIGN @ CTR virgin nerds.

It's really sickening.