Can Trump wiggle out of this one?

[Moose]

In the end, this may help the republican party. They needed a reboot of sorts anyway...

Perhaps more Ron Paul with a stronger stance than he on foreign policy. They used to have more libertarian roots back in the late 80s and early 90s. Take some of that without the extreme parts of it and go from there.

[N8isScofield]

In the end, this may help the republican party. They needed a reboot of sorts anyway...

Perhaps more Ron Paul with a stronger stance than he on foreign policy. They used to have more libertarian roots back in the late 80s and early 90s. Take some of that without the extreme parts of it and go from there.

There is no helping them. After Romney gave up on trying to win over anyone but his base and was soundly beaten in the elections Republicans said that 2016 was going to be different and promised to put out a more diverse candidate that could reach out beyond Romney's base and excite black, latino and women voters. How did that turn out? They're going to churn out another alt right wackjob who appeals to the same base Trump does but this one won't have been in public life as long so there won't be any audio or video evidence of how disgusting they are. The tens of millions of people disgusting enough to support Trump aren't just going to go away. They'll be back and they'll probably be worse.

[Moose]

In the end, this may help the republican party. They needed a reboot of sorts anyway...

Perhaps more Ron Paul with a stronger stance than he on foreign policy. They used to have more libertarian roots back in the late 80s and early 90s. Take some of that without the extreme parts of it and go from there.

There is no helping them. After Romney gave up on trying to win over anyone but his base and was soundly beaten in the elections Republicans said that 2016 was going to be different and promised to put out a more diverse candidate that could reach out beyond Romney's base and excite black, latino and women voters. How did that turn out? They're going to churn out another alt right wackjob who appeals to the same base Trump does but this one won't have been in public life as long so there won't be any audio or video evidence of how disgusting they are. The tens of millions of people disgusting enough to support Trump aren't just going to go away. They'll be back and they'll probably be worse.

This is politics. Things change all the time. These two parties were pretty different 50+ years ago and a 100+ years ago.

Sh*t, both parties have already changed in my lifetime.

[N8isScofield]

In the end, this may help the republican party. They needed a reboot of sorts anyway...

Perhaps more Ron Paul with a stronger stance than he on foreign policy. They used to have more libertarian roots back in the late 80s and early 90s. Take some of that without the extreme parts of it and go from there.

There is no helping them. After Romney gave up on trying to win over anyone but his base and was soundly beaten in the elections Republicans said that 2016 was going to be different and promised to put out a more diverse candidate that could reach out beyond Romney's base and excite black, latino and women voters. How did that turn out? They're going to churn out another alt right wackjob who appeals to the same base Trump does but this one won't have been in public life as long so there won't be any audio or video evidence of how disgusting they are. The tens of millions of people disgusting enough to support Trump aren't just going to go away. They'll be back and they'll probably be worse.

This is politics. Things change all the time. These two parties were pretty different 50+ years ago and a 100+ years ago.

Sh*t, both parties have already changed in my lifetime.

Yes but this is the natural progression of the tea party movement. The Republican party has changed and this is what it has changed into. I just don't believe they're done yet. The lunatics are running the asylum and regardless of Trump winning or losing they're out of their cages. It's going to take a while to get them back in if ever.

[Moose]

There is no helping them. After Romney gave up on trying to win over anyone but his base and was soundly beaten in the elections Republicans said that 2016 was going to be different and promised to put out a more diverse candidate that could reach out beyond Romney's base and excite black, latino and women voters. How did that turn out? They're going to churn out another alt right wackjob who appeals to the same base Trump does but this one won't have been in public life as long so there won't be any audio or video evidence of how disgusting they are. The tens of millions of people disgusting enough to support Trump aren't just going to go away. They'll be back and they'll probably be worse.

This is politics. Things change all the time. These two parties were pretty different 50+ years ago and a 100+ years ago.

Sh*t, both parties have already changed in my lifetime.

Yes but this is the natural progression of the tea party movement. The Republican party has changed and this is what it has changed into. I just don't believe they're done yet. The lunatics are running the asylum and regardless of Trump winning or losing they're out of their cages. It's going to take a while to get them back in if ever.

Normal people that are tea party folk are along the lines of constitutionalists who believe in lower taxes. You may like to paint them with a broad brush as nut jobs, but that is highly unlikely...since nut jobs usually can't function normally in soceity.

Every group has a base for what they stand for and then you have the extremists and dumb ideas that grow from each group. It is the same on all sides.

Anyhow, in like 4-8, maybe 12 years, you'll see another republican president who is more moderate, perhaps libertarian-ish. Really, they need to get off some of the social issues that hurt them. What they should do is take the approach of, states should decide, and by that, meaning the people should vote on specific social issues dealing such as abortion and gay marriage.

This will allow them to keep their base and not offend too many others, while also being somewhat fair and reasonable.

These are emotional issues. Even if we think there is a right answer, there technically isn't. They are judgment calls. Our constitution is based around protecting certain basic rights...anything branching outside of that should be up to the people.

Me personally, I think we should let anyone do what they like as long as they arent treading on the rights of others. You wanna marry a person from the same sex? Go for it. You want to smoke pot? Go for it. You want to gamble? Go for it. You want to kill yourself? That's up to you. Certain laws and lines can be put in place to protect the rights of the people, but in general terms, this is how I feel.

[Fat Kat]

There is no helping them. After Romney gave up on trying to win over anyone but his base and was soundly beaten in the elections Republicans said that 2016 was going to be different and promised to put out a more diverse candidate that could reach out beyond Romney's base and excite black, latino and women voters. How did that turn out? They're going to churn out another alt right wackjob who appeals to the same base Trump does but this one won't have been in public life as long so there won't be any audio or video evidence of how disgusting they are. The tens of millions of people disgusting enough to support Trump aren't just going to go away. They'll be back and they'll probably be worse.

This is politics. Things change all the time. These two parties were pretty different 50+ years ago and a 100+ years ago.

Sh*t, both parties have already changed in my lifetime.

Yes but this is the natural progression of the tea party movement. The Republican party has changed and this is what it has changed into. I just don't believe they're done yet. The lunatics are running the asylum and regardless of Trump winning or losing they're out of their cages. It's going to take a while to get them back in if ever.

Yep.

Read on Twitter

This is their base. Ain't no getting that horse back in the barn.

[E-Balla]

This is politics. Things change all the time. These two parties were pretty different 50+ years ago and a 100+ years ago.

Sh*t, both parties have already changed in my lifetime.

Yes but this is the natural progression of the tea party movement. The Republican party has changed and this is what it has changed into. I just don't believe they're done yet. The lunatics are running the asylum and regardless of Trump winning or losing they're out of their cages. It's going to take a while to get them back in if ever.

Normal people that are tea party folk are along the lines of constitutionalists who believe in lower taxes. You may like to paint them with a broad brush as nut jobs, but that is highly unlikely...since nut jobs usually can't function normally in soceity.

Every group has a base for what they stand for and then you have the extremists and dumb ideas that grow from each group. It is the same on all sides.

Anyhow, in like 4-8, maybe 12 years, you'll see another republican president who is more moderate, perhaps libertarian-ish. Really, they need to get off some of the social issues that hurt them. What they should do is take the approach of, states should decide, and by that, meaning the people should vote on specific social issues dealing such as abortion and gay marriage.

This will allow them to keep their base and not offend too many others, while also being somewhat fair and reasonable.

These are emotional issues. Even if we think there is a right answer, there technically isn't. They are judgment calls. Our constitution is based around protecting certain basic rights...anything branching outside of that should be up to the people.

Me personally, I think we should let anyone do what they like as long as they arent treading on the rights of others. You wanna marry a person from the same sex? Go for it. You want to smoke pot? Go for it. You want to gamble? Go for it. You want to kill yourself? That's up to you. Certain laws and lines can be put in place to protect the rights of the people, but in general terms, this is how I feel.

They aren't nutjobs but Trump is about to get 35-42% of the vote? Ok sure...

[E-Balla]

Oh Lawd

What the **** is happening to our society? I feel like someone messed with our timeline and caused a Flashpoint Paradox

It is bizarro time because I think there are people who enter politics now in their 20s or 30s who have almost no historical knowledge or grasp of basic civics. That is the only way I can account for that craziness.

Only other interpretations is it is like some version of being punk'd and the politician doesn't know it. Otherwise that guy would be trolling Harlem outright when the reality is they probably thought it was a good idea.

The country is becoming less intelligent and the kind of politicians we're getting shows it. There were always really dumb ones, but they seem to be multiplying now.

Man it actually gets worse. He was asked how he feels about people mass about his comments and his response was basically, "they won't be mad after I give them KFC, koolaid, and watermelon."

That said politicians and the country aren't any dumber. Politicians consistently look out for themselves and who they care about and people follow along. Been like this since Nixon at least.

[Amsterdam]

In the end, this may help the republican party. They needed a reboot of sorts anyway...

Perhaps more Ron Paul with a stronger stance than he on foreign policy. They used to have more libertarian roots back in the late 80s and early 90s. Take some of that without the extreme parts of it and go from there.

BTW and in this opinion, Ron Paul was the best GOP candidate of the lot.

[King of Canada]

Kids in my son's grade 3 class are dressing up as Trump for Halloween, but they're not sure why. A lot of Canadians are very nervously watching this election, even more closely than they follow our own elections.

[Amsterdam]

This is what we are facing in Syria:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-13/royal-air-force-pilots-ordered-shoot-down-hostile-russian-jets-over-syria#comments

"...As the US officially enters the Yemen military campaign, the UK appears ready and willing to precipiate a catalytic event from which there is no going back. With relations between Russia and the West at post-Cold War lows and deteriorating fast, Royal Air Force (RAF) pilots have been given the go-ahead to shoot down Russian military jets when flying missions over Syria and Iraq, if they are endangered by them. The development comes with warnings that the UK and Russia are now "one step closer" to being at war, according to the Sunday Times...."

Look at the comments on that page, citizens do NOT want confrontation that is based on a gas pipe-line running through Syria. So which candidate will not fold to the NEOCons and avoid a major catastrophe?

[N8isScofield]

This is politics. Things change all the time. These two parties were pretty different 50+ years ago and a 100+ years ago.

Sh*t, both parties have already changed in my lifetime.

Yes but this is the natural progression of the tea party movement. The Republican party has changed and this is what it has changed into. I just don't believe they're done yet. The lunatics are running the asylum and regardless of Trump winning or losing they're out of their cages. It's going to take a while to get them back in if ever.

Normal people that are tea party folk are along the lines of constitutionalists who believe in lower taxes. You may like to paint them with a broad brush as nut jobs, but that is highly unlikely...since nut jobs usually can't function normally in soceity.

Every group has a base for what they stand for and then you have the extremists and dumb ideas that grow from each group. It is the same on all sides.

Anyhow, in like 4-8, maybe 12 years, you'll see another republican president who is more moderate, perhaps libertarian-ish. Really, they need to get off some of the social issues that hurt them. What they should do is take the approach of, states should decide, and by that, meaning the people should vote on specific social issues dealing such as abortion and gay marriage.

This will allow them to keep their base and not offend too many others, while also being somewhat fair and reasonable.

These are emotional issues. Even if we think there is a right answer, there technically isn't. They are judgment calls. Our constitution is based around protecting certain basic rights...anything branching outside of that should be up to the people.

Me personally, I think we should let anyone do what they like as long as they arent treading on the rights of others. You wanna marry a person from the same sex? Go for it. You want to smoke pot? Go for it. You want to gamble? Go for it. You want to kill yourself? That's up to you. Certain laws and lines can be put in place to protect the rights of the people, but in general terms, this is how I feel.

There is nothing normal about a group of people who pop up solely because the President has darker skin than they're accustomed to. There is nothing normal about fetishizing an outdated document that was written at a time when almost 70% of the current population would not have had equal rights. You can dress the tea party up any way you'd like, it is a racist and delusional collection of scumbags who want to go back in time.

[slacker55]

I was kidding around, but I'm not busting your chops now when I say I don't think anybody knows what you're talking about

It's cool. I'm not rooting for either Trump or Hillary. But the way I see it, this country is engaged in a "giant food fight."

Trump is a part of it. And Hillary is a part of it too. We need a president that acts like a grown up. That's all I'm saying.

Of the four on the ballot, I only see one who is behaving like a toddler. I still don't really know what you mean by "presidential" but if you're saying Clinton doesn't know how to behave like a grown up in adult company I'd have to say she does and she meets that particular criteria. Trump does not.

There's no doubt that Trump is by far the worst behaved one of the 4.

But Hillary calling 25% of Americans a "basket of deplorables" and "irredeemable" wasn't that great either. And it's not just one time. She constantly refers to Republicans as her enemy, which is also very immature and irresponsible for a potential head of state. So Hillary might act more mature than Trump, but she isn't that much better.

I don't know much about Kaine, but his constant interrupting and douchey behavior during the Veep debate was so annoying that I hate him just because of that.

So I'm not really rooting for Mike Pence. He just hasn't done anything to make me hate him yet. At least not that I know of...

[CJackson]

Donald Trump Called Deaf Apprentice Marlee Matlin ‘R@tard@d,’ Three Staffers Say

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/13/donald-trump-called-deaf-apprentice-marlee-matlin-retarded.html

Just in case you thought Donald Trump was insufficiently awful: He repeatedly called a deaf actress “(Please Use More Appropriate Word),” three sources tell The Daily Beast.

Trump, who was accused on Wednesday of making sexual comments to Marlee Matlin, an Oscar-winning actress who once competed on Trump’s Celebrity Apprentice, also apparently had a habit of insulting, mimicking, and demeaning as mentally handicapped his star female contestant—all because she was deaf.

In 2011, Matlin, who is still the only deaf actor or actress to win an Academy Award for best actress, appeared on Trump’s NBC reality-TV series. By the end of the season, she had come in second place and earned her fair share of compliments from Trump in the aired footage. But according to three longtime staffers who worked on Matlin’s season of Celebrity Apprentice, Trump would regularly disrespect the actress and would even treat her as if she were mentally disabled.

Sometimes the insults would be behind her back; other times they would be right in front of her.

Due to extensive non-disclosure agreements signed by members involved with the production, every one of the sources asked to be quoted anonymously for fear of legal retribution.

“[Trump] would often equate that she was mentally (Please Use More Appropriate Word),” said one source, who described how kind Matlin and her interpreter Jack Jason were.

During the taping of the show, Trump would often scribble down notes while sitting at the table of “the boardroom”—the show’s primary set. A person familiar with the notes who helped clean up after tapings said that on one of the pieces of paper, Trump wrote: “Marlee, is she (Please Use More Appropriate Word)??”

“He would write notes on his blotter, his papers in front of him, and he would scribble notes in it,” a source described. “It was usually just asinine things on them.”

During breaks, Trump would often remain mic’d up and engage in chit-chat with Donald Trump Jr. or other people in the boardroom for tapings.

“[Trump] would make fun of her voice. It actually sounded a lot like what he did [to] the New York Times guy,” another person who worked on The Apprentice for years told The Daily Beast, referring to when Trump mocked a disabled reporter last year. The source said this incident occurred outside the boardroom, during a break from filming. “Like, to make it seem like she was mentally not there? [It] sounded like he got a real kick out of it. It was really upsetting.”

Another Apprentice staffer, who worked on the show for roughly five years, described how Trump commenting on Matlin’s deafness and supposed mental deficiencies was a regular occurrence during the whole season. Occasionally, it would be directly to Matlin’s face.

“In the boardroom, he would talk to her like she was ‘special,’” the source said. “He took her deafness as a some kind of [mental] handicap.” The staffer recalls sitting in the control room during the shoot for one episode and being taken aback hearing Trump make an “insensitive” comment about Matlin’s deafness to the actress while she was seated across the boardroom table.

“She responded [to him], she stood up for herself,” the source said. (This exchange was not included in the final cut of the episode.)

“But people would just laugh this [stuff] off—it was just the culture of [the show],” the staff member said. “But now it’s a little more serious because it’s not a joke anymore!”

Through an intermediary, Matlin declined to comment on this story.

“He would kind of do these mock voices,” a source said, who witnessed and heard one incident. “[Matlin] was a popular person on the show. I think he would take the low road and mock her disability.”

This revelation comes on the heels of a rash of sexual-harassment and -assault accusations against Trump, as well as other allegations from a former Apprentice contestant, Richard Hatch, who claimed Trump also made lewd remarks to Matlin during taping.

“Watching him in the boardroom making sexual comments to Marlee Matlin, to all of the women on The Apprentice, it was obvious that that’s just a part of who he is,” Hatch told People magazine this week. “It was obvious and it was grotesque. It was blatant and it was frequent. He did it with Lisa Rinna; he did it with Marlee Matlin. He did it with whomever happened to be there at the time… He did it in front of Ivanka [Trump, his daughter]. That was not just uncomfortable for me. It was weird.”

“He doesn’t engage with women normally,” Hatch later told ET. “I think he thinks he’s complimenting people, when he’s practically drooling… My guess would be that he would describe it as flirting.”

Long before she appeared on Celebrity Apprentice, Matlin snagged the honor of becoming the first deaf actor or actress to win an acting Academy Award for her role in 1986’s Children of a Lesser God. She has appeared on various TV series including in a recurring role on Aaron Sorkin’s The West Wing. In 2011, she, alongside Snoop Dogg and Larry King, participated in the 2011 Comedy Central roast of Trump. (Matlin made a number of penis-related jokes at Trump’s expense during that broadcast.)

Late last year, Matlin told the New York Post about her relationship with the real-estate mogul and reality-TV star. “He treated me with respect and humor and was always looking after me,” she told the tabloid. When asked at the time if she was ready for a President Trump, she deflected, saying that “anyone can run for president!”

Regardless of their apparently friendly relationship—or how Trump treated Matlin while the cameras were off—it is still unlikely Trump would ever win Matlin’s vote. In 2012, she was a staunch supporter of President Barack Obama, and this year she has repeatedly affirmed her support for Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton. “I’m for my friend @HillaryClinton,” she tweeted in January. “If you’re with her, let her know.”

The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment on this story.

[ToastinKP]

Trump is an ass and IMO a pansy brought to us by Bill Clinton and camp Weathervane, but as we see with the Wikileaks Hillary is lying corporatist who would sell anyone out at anytime....... told you Bernie was the way to go.

[CharlesOakley]

There's no doubt that Trump is by far the worst behaved one of the 4.

But Hillary calling 25% of Americans a "basket of deplorables" and "irredeemable" wasn't that great either. And it's not just one time. She constantly refers to Republicans as her enemy, which is also very immature and irresponsible for a potential head of state. So Hillary might act more mature than Trump, but she isn't that much better.

I don't know much about Kaine, but his constant interrupting and douchey behavior during the Veep debate was so annoying that I hate him just because of that.

So I'm not really rooting for Mike Pence. He just hasn't done anything to make me hate him yet. At least not that I know of...

IMO - Republicans are the enemy (elected officials - not voters) of sanity. For the entire year, the House is scheduled to be in session for 111 days. Obstructionism is the new normal on capitol hill. 59 percent of the Republican House caucus and 70 percent of Republicans in the Senate deny the scientific consensus that climate change is happening and humans are the main cause.

I'm all for a conservative point of view, smaller government, fiscal responsibility etc., but that hasn't been the case in a decade.

Mike Pence signed a law requiring women who have abortions to have funerals for their fetuses.

[Stannis]

I just finished the VP date and the 2nd Presidential debate.

Kaine's debate etiquette was one of the most unbearable things I have witnessed. Dude was straight up annoying.

Hilary was able to avoid some subjects on her hypocrisy and corruption. Whereas the 2nd debate moderators were clearly on the offense (against Trump) imo. Which is fine, but I thought they should've been consistent and fair. I'm no Trump supporter, but it's pretty easy for Hilary to come off as more mature and composed when she can basically say "let's move on".

I still hope Hilary wins in the end if it comes down to her or Trump (or even Pence tbh).

Hopefully this election destroys the Republican party and the Independent party will have a chance next time.

[CJackson]

There's no doubt that Trump is by far the worst behaved one of the 4.

But Hillary calling 25% of Americans a "basket of deplorables" and "irredeemable" wasn't that great either. And it's not just one time. She constantly refers to Republicans as her enemy, which is also very immature and irresponsible for a potential head of state. So Hillary might act more mature than Trump, but she isn't that much better.

I don't know much about Kaine, but his constant interrupting and douchey behavior during the Veep debate was so annoying that I hate him just because of that.

So I'm not really rooting for Mike Pence. He just hasn't done anything to make me hate him yet. At least not that I know of...

IMO - Republicans are the enemy (elected officials - not voters) of sanity. For the entire year, the House is scheduled to be in session for 111 days. Obstructionism is the new normal on capitol hill. 59 percent of the Republican House caucus and 70 percent of Republicans in the Senate deny the scientific consensus that climate change is happening and humans are the main cause.

I'm all for a conservative point of view, smaller government, fiscal responsibility etc., but that hasn't been the case in a decade.

Mike Pence signed a law requiring women who have abortions to have funerals for their fetuses.

Pence is downright awful. A disturbing guy. Horrible policies. I don't care if he has G.I. Joe hair

[Stannis]

Watch on YouTube

What's next a Catholic priest saying its okay God wills it?

wtf.. that was way too awkward to watch

[CJackson]

I just finished the VP date and the 2nd Presidential debate.

Kaine's debate etiquette was one of the most unbearable things I have witnessed. Dude was straight up annoying.

Hilary was able to avoid some subjects on her hypocrisy and corruption. Whereas the 2nd debate moderators were clearly on the offense (against Trump) imo. Which is fine, but I thought they should've been consistent and fair. I'm no Trump supporter, but it's pretty easy for Hilary to come off as more mature and composed when she can basically say "let's move on".

I still hope Hilary wins in the end if it comes down to her or Trump (or even Pence tbh).

Hopefully this election destroys the Republican party and the Independent party will have a chance next time.

It is a golden opportunity. It requires leadership to build a new alternative. I don't know yet if those people exist. Bernie created an organization after he lost the primaries and his staff rebelled and walked on him for what they believed was a compromise on their values. I don't think Bernie will be viable in the future, merely someone who can lend their support. He is too shrill and lacks the skill to build a new party that can challenge the status quo.