So how about Joel Embiid

Post #221 » by **BullyKing** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:45 pm

BBall Loyalty wrote:The Embiid hype has gotten out of control. Let's see if he can stay healthy first before praising Hinkie or proclaiming Embiid Hakeem 2.0.

No one has doubted Embiid's skill level. There is nothing surprising about how he's played in the preseason, what is surprising is that he's not hurt.

For a guy who only played basketball for 3 years and then didn't play for 2.5 years to look this good against NBA players - yes, it's surprising.

DeezRaptors · Post #222 » by **DeezRaptors** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:40 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:If Embiid shows or develops a lefty hook, it's over for the league. I think I vaguely remember him being able to shoot jump hooks with his left back at Kansas.

Him developing a left hook does not mean its over for the league. Your stating he will be u stoppable if he gets a move? Cmon man. The dude has to improve so much LOL. He's playing well now but give it time

jbent87 · Post #223 » by **jbent87** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:01 pm

Some of the out of control comments are projecting his numbers per 36 minutes based off what he's doing in preseason. Other things he's doing don't matter whether it's preseason or not (d'ing up John Wall on the perimeter forcing a missed shot) but let's just try and enjoy this for now. Just a shame that we can't enjoy and experience Ben Simmons at the same time. Always something.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #224 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:07 pm

DeezRaptors wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:If Embiid shows or develops a lefty hook, it's over for the league. I think I vaguely remember him being able to shoot jump hooks with his left back at Kansas.

Him developing a left hook does not mean its over for the league. Your stating he will be u stoppable if he gets a move? Cmon man. The dude has to improve so much LOL. He's playing well now but give it time

Maybe it was a bit hyperbole on my part, but I was mainly saying if he had a left handed move to compliment all the things he can potentially do with his dominant hand, he'd be very, very difficult to guard.

Eyeamok · Post #225 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:46 pm

BBall Loyalty wrote:The Embiid hype has gotten out of control. Let's see if he can stay healthy first before praising Hinkie or proclaiming Embiid Hakeem 2.0.

No one has doubted Embiid's skill level. There is nothing surprising about how he's played in the preseason, what is surprising is that he's not hurt.

Really, "no one has doubted Embiid's skill level"!!!! Have you been on these boards the last few year?

I'm excited about what he has shown thus far but it is still early in the "process". So Imagonna hold back and practice some restraint for now. But a gloating time is coming for all 76ers fans and it's going to be spectacular.
There is nothing better,on these boards, than digging up old posts and watching people scramble for cover.

Eyeamok · Post #226 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:49 pm

jbent87 wrote:Some of the out of control comments are projecting his numbers per 36 minutes based off what he's doing in preseason. Other things he's doing don't matter whether it's preseason or not (d'ing up John Wall on the perimeter forcing a missed shot) but let's just try and enjoy this for now. Just a shame that we can't enjoy and experience Ben Simmons at the same time. Always something.

I have come to the conclusion that the basketball universe probably would have imploded if both Embiid and Simmons debuted at the same time. It is for our own sanity that things happened this way.

LloydFree · Post #227 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:50 pm

Renegade_H wrote:Hinkie definitely wanted Russell. And then after Russell was drafted, he was denied Porzingis. So screw it. BPA.

Imagine this team with Russell. Russell/Henderson/Saric/Simmons/Embiid. Yes please. Damn you LA.

This. Russell is gonna turn this thing out this year. If LA hadn't pulled that move from nowhere, we'd be on our way. No waiting.

Ballerhogger · Post #228 » by **Ballerhogger** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:27 pm

he looks good in pre season lets see where he is mid season.

Ericb5 · Post #229 » by **Ericb5** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:25 pm

naabzor wrote:I think Porzingod is bigger.

We have a firm measurement of Porzingis as being 7'1 and change barefoot. With Embiid he is supposedly 7'2 in sandals. We will find out when the Sixers play the Knicks and they stand next to each other. My guess is that Embiid is 7'1 and change barefoot too.

Of course Embiid has 35+ pounds on him though.

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cksdayoff · Post #230 » by **cksdayoff** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:56 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:
That being said, it's pre-season, I've seen too many great players stink it up in the off season and be amazing when the real season starts, and on the flip side lesser players putting up great numbers in the preseason and vanishing in the regular season. I'd love to see him start off the regular season strong and build from there, but right now it's just fun to see him run up and down the floor and put his talents into functioning use.

what? we're not talking about a 6'5 wing who is shooting lights out in preseason. we're talking about a 7'2, 270 lb beast who is bigger than anything out there on the court almost 99% of the time, who is pretty much unstoppable in the post, and who can extend his range out to the 3 point line, who, just on size and wingspan alone will grab 10+ rebounds a game, and has shown to cover a quarter or more of a half court on the defensive end due to his size, wingspan and mobility.

the guy makes over 80% of his free throws too.

what you said really doesn't apply to a 7'2 big with his skill level and athleticism

Zombiesonics · Post #231 » by **Zombiesonics** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:33 am

look much of this thread is dense/verbose and there are alot of interesting points. I think its fair to say embiid is not olajuwon, he doesn't possess that fluid gait that makes his lower body movements look effortless. i watched so many hakeem minutes just watching film and there was never a point i was like "uh oh, his knee could buckle up and he'll hit the floor'. Having said that he doesn't need to be the Dream.

what I see from Embiid is spectacular instincts, he is natural born 'ball sport' talent despite entering training late. Honestly the guy could be an elite shooter, i love his confidence in spacing off screens to the three point land. thats what all that time off helped him with, he is going to be a tremendous shooter i believe.

There are a ton of knowledgeable basketball heads here who know it when they see it, we all just need to seee if embiid can really get his legs under him and 'move effortless'. He could be better than KAT Towns and KP, all nba players in the future. he has instincts in the paint like olajuwon, thats where the comps come from, defense is second nature it seems.

Sleep · Post #232 » by **Sleep** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:54 am

If we could have the 2015 draft over I'd take Booker. Who cares about Russell. Russell with Embiid, Noel, Simmons is great.

Zombiesonics · Post #233 » by **Zombiesonics** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:59 am

Sleep wrote:If we could have the 2015 draft over I'd take Booker. Who cares about Russell. Russell with Embiid, Noel, Simmons is great.

i know the basketball community is collectively wetting their pants over DLO but one must understand pull up leaning jumpers off pnrs are not what wins playoff games. sixers need to search for a two way playmaking stud to pair with embiid, the franchise center piece.I feel so bad for hinkie, i can't put it into words really.

Post #234 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:37 am

Watch on YouTube

ChuckChilly · Post #235 » by **ChuckChilly** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:39 am

Looks like Hakeem in his twilight years.

eagereyez · Post #236 » by **eagereyez** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:48 am

Embiid should workout with Olajuwon during the summer. He'd probably be one of the few players to actually benefit from it.

LloydFree · Post #237 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:37 pm

eagereyez wrote:Embiid should workout with Olajuwon during the summer. He'd probably be one of the few players to actually benefit from it.

What does that mean? Lebron James had zero post game early in his career. He worked out with Olajuwon 1 or 2 summers and became unstoppable playing with his back to the basket.

Post #238 » by **Marcus** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:31 pm

eagereyez wrote:Embiid should workout with Olajuwon during the summer. He'd probably be one of the few players to actually benefit from it.

Benefiting from working out with Hakeem has more to do with mindset and application of the player getting the training. What he teaches is super effective but if the player doesn't want to use it then that's on them.

Kobe killed with it
Bron kills with it
Hell I've killed with it and that was from just watching a few YouTube clips

JaVale won't use it
Dwight rarely does
Amare did when he was healthy
All three however looked like better players when they did apply it on the court

Everybody should go see The Dream and we'd have a more complete game on the court if they did and actually applied what they learned.

Peja Stojakovic · Post #239 » by **Peja Stojakovic** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:55 pm

eagereyez wrote:Embiid should workout with Olajuwon during the summer. He'd probably be one of the few players to actually benefit from it.

i want to see duncan start giving big man clinics to blue chip prospects like embiid now that he's got free time. the stuff duncan did wasn't as hard to teach as olajuwon but was arguably even more effective. timing, positioning, how to clear space

Unbreakable99 · Post #240 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:29 pm

Zombiesonics wrote:
Sleep wrote:If we could have the 2015 draft over I'd take Booker. Who cares about Russell. Russell with Embiid, Noel, Simmons is great.

i know the basketball community is collectively wetting their pants over DLO but one must understand pull up leaning jumpers off pnrs are not what wins playoff games. sixers need to search for a two way playmaking stud to pair with embiid, the franchise center piece.I feel so bad for hinkie, i can't put it into words really.

We do. Simmons.