Can Trump wiggle out of this one?

[CJackson]

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But, but, but Trumps' dirty mouth is the biggest threat America is facing today.

This is full text of that tweet. Read it in full and tell us how that condemns Clinton.

You can't.

You just wanted to play the underhanded tactic of displaying a quote out of context.

Here's the full text:


From:bi@globalculturalstrategies.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2016-03-13 17:06
Subject: From Bill Ivey


Dear John:



Well, we all thought the big problem for our US democracy was Citizens
United/Koch Brothers big money in politics. Silly us; turns out that money
isn't all that important if you can conflate entertainment with the
electoral process. Trump masters TV, TV so-called news picks up and repeats
and repeats to death this opinionated blowhard and his hairbrained ideas,
free-floating discontent attaches to a seeming strongman and we're off and
running. JFK, Jr would be delighted by all this as his "George" magazine saw
celebrity politics coming. The magazine struggled as it was ahead of its
time but now looks prescient. George, of course, played the development
pretty lightly, basically for charm and gossip, like People, but what we are
dealing with now is dead serious. How does this get handled in the general?
Secretary Clinton is not an entertainer, and not a celebrity in the Trump,
Kardashian mold; what can she do to offset this? I'm certain the
poll-directed insiders are sure things will default to policy as soon as the
conventions are over, but I think not. And as I've mentioned, we've all
been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire
to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains
strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands
some serious, serious thinking - and not just poll driven,
demographically-inspired messaging.



Rubio's press conference yesterday AM was good and should be repeated in its
entirety, not just in nibbles. I will attend the Clinton fundraiser here
next week but as I can only afford the low level of participation may just
get to wave without a "hello."



I fear we are all now trying to navigate a set of forces that cannot be
simply explained or fully understood, so it is and will reamin interesting!



Sent with a handshake,



Bill

[NoLayupRule]

Its the fact hat 80 % of the media is attacking Trump is enough for me to see Trump is an outsider and real change

I agree

and seeing that 99.9% of scientists support the claim that global climate change is man made only means that global warming is the outsider choice for science

keep fighting that good fight method

[Capn'O]

I didn't need the full text to understand that Bill was criticizing others for their role in dumbing down politics.

[CJackson]

I didn't need the full text to understand that Bill was criticizing others for their role in dumbing down politics.

Of course. Only a complete BS artist would pretend this is evidence of the plotting of the NWO.

The worst you can say about it is it is an admission of lax standards when combattng ignorance and falling prey themselves to the spectacle of modern politics and underestimating the sway Trump would have and how the media exposure would benefit a troll so much.

[reub]

Some people on here like Clinton because the press has indoctrinated them into believing that she is on their side when it couldn't be further from the truth. Think for yourself people! Don't be a victim of their propaganda.

[CJackson]

Some people on here like Clinton because the press has indoctrinated them into believing that she is on their side when it couldn't be further from the truth. Think for yourself people! Don't be a victim of their propaganda.

OK, while you're preaching the TRUTH, can you explain why you support committing genocide?

[Capn'O]

I didn't need the full text to understand that Bill was criticizing others for their role in dumbing down politics.

Of course. Only a complete BS artist would pretend this is evidence of the plotting of the NWO.

The worst you can say about it is it is an admission of lax standards when combattng ignorance and falling prey themselves to the spectacle of modern politics and underestimating the sway Trump would have and how the media exposure would benefit a troll so much.

The article on US involvement in Yemen I posted on the previous page is far more damning of current US foreign policy (both sides of the aisle but very critical of Obama) than anything these hucksters have come up with. Bunch of cherrypicking clowns, pulling quotes from their context and crying wolf.

[CharlesOakley]

Some people on here like Clinton because the press has indoctrinated them into believing that she is on their side when it couldn't be further from the truth. Think for yourself people! Don't be a victim of their propaganda.

I firmly believe Hillary will be a business-as-usual President. I'll take business-as-usual over a dumpster fire any day. The press has merely reported what Trump has said and done. He made the noose himself and stuck his head in it.

Can you name one thing Trump has done in his entire life that has been in service to others?

[CJackson]

I didn't need the full text to understand that Bill was criticizing others for their role in dumbing down politics.

Of course. Only a complete BS artist would pretend this is evidence of the plotting of the NWO.

The worst you can say about it is it is an admission of lax standards when combattng ignorance and falling prey themselves to the spectacle of modern politics and underestimating the sway Trump would have and how the media exposure would benefit a troll so much.

The article on US involvement in Yemen I posted on the previous page is far more damning of current US foreign policy (both sides of the aisle) than anything these hucksters have come up with. Bunch of cherrypicking clowns.

The Middle East is going to be a cauldron of troubles for years to come. There may be no good solutions, but expecting the U.S. to stay completely out of entanglements won't be a realistic expectation even if I can support less meddling as a general rule of thumb.

There are still very intricate involvements based on oil that need to unentangled in the next decade. We cannot explain U.S. involvement with the Saudis as being particular to this administration or the democrats. We all know the Bushes were in deep with the Saudi princes.

I'm pretty sure part of Clinton's expressed interest in being the leader in clean energy comes from her foreign policy experience and not only as a point of concern for our environment. She knows as well as anyone the U.S. is going to be able to pull back from some relationships more easily if our energy consumption is fueled by alternative energy.

Nobody can be pleased by what is going on, but citing Trump as the alternative is the biggest joke of all. Guy wants to bomb people over personal insults.

[K_ick_God]

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[Capn'O]

I'm pretty sure part of Clinton's expressed interest in being the leader in clean energy comes from her foreign policy experience and not only as a point of concern for our environment. She knows as well as anyone the U.S. is going to be able to pull back from some relationships more easily if our energy consumption is fueled by alternative energy.

Good point - I hadn't quite pieced together how those factors may be intertwined for her though I would LOVE if they would friggin' talk about stuff like that in the debates. Generally her commitment towards renewable energy is a very strong prong in my support for her. And please. Renewable. Won't be alternative for long, please and thank you.

Nobody can be pleased by what is going on, but citing Trump as the alternative is the biggest joke of all. Guy wants to bomb people over personal insults.

Should go without saying but I suppose you did have to. Called climate change a Chinese hoax... or maybe he didn't And Saudi Arabia should have nukes... or maybe they shouldn't

[CJackson]

Interesting Fact:

Trump has repeatedly threatened publications with lawsuits over the years.

He never files those lawsuits.

He's just a bag of hot air.

His rally trolls chant "Lock Her Up" about a People Magazine writer.

[CJackson]

I'm pretty sure part of Clinton's expressed interest in being the leader in clean energy comes from her foreign policy experience and not only as a point of concern for our environment. She knows as well as anyone the U.S. is going to be able to pull back from some relationships more easily if our energy consumption is fueled by alternative energy.

Good point - I hadn't quite pieced together how those factors may be intertwined for her though I would LOVE if they would friggin' talk about stuff like that in the debates. Generally her commitment towards clean energy is a very strong prong in my support for her. And please. Renewable. Won't be alternative for long, please and thank you.

Nobody can be pleased by what is going on, but citing Trump as the alternative is the biggest joke of all. Guy wants to bomb people over personal insults.

Should go without saying but I suppose you did have to. Called climate change a Chinese hoax... or maybe he didn't

That's too much of a long game perspective for the average bear to consider these days. People want simple, dumbed down messages even though the answers to our key issues can take a generation or more to address with a pro-active plan.

And Clinton has allowed Trump to drag her down to his level too often. If the media can criticized of anything it is giving too much air time to Trump's buffoon sensationalism at the expense of an examination of the real issues we should be voting on.

Yes, Trump said climate warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese

[Capn'O]

That's too much of a long game perspective for the average bear to consider these days. People want simple, dumbed down messages even though the answers to our key issues can take a generation or more to address with a pro-active plan.

And Clinton has allowed Trump to drag her down to his level too often. If the media can criticized of anything it is giving too much air time to Trump's buffoon sensationalism at the expense of an examination of the real issues we should be voting on.

Yes, Trump said climate warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese

Right, but what ends up happening in dumboland is that is that nobody gets the information. Or you have to go well out of your way to get it. I don't get apocalyptic but this country is in for some dark times if it doesn't find a way to raise the level of discourse and start communicating the long game. How do you responsibly vote in that circumstance? It opens the door for the clown show we've seen this year.

Maybe you just get the party of Bloomberg that has been bandied around. I.e. a centrist merge with hegemonic foreign policy and progressive enough domestic policy to fend off the pitchforks and torches, leaving the alt right on one side and Sanders' crew on the other. And they just do their thing while the two poles fight over the soul of the nation or whatever.


With the ME - to me, it's looked like we've just mucked around over there for the longest with the people of those nations as the biggest losers. I don't see an end game and the entanglements and our involvement seem to be getting deeper, not less. I know it's naive, but what if all the damn money we spent fighting in Iraq goes to education, infrastructure development, and green energy development instead? I'm not sure we have generations to spend on this.

[Amsterdam]

This is what the next Prez is walking into:

http://www.anonews.co/brink-of-war/

MEDIA ....In the Last 48 Hours, Humanity Just Moved to the Brink of World War

[CJackson]

That's too much of a long game perspective for the average bear to consider these days. People want simple, dumbed down messages even though the answers to our key issues can take a generation or more to address with a pro-active plan.

And Clinton has allowed Trump to drag her down to his level too often. If the media can criticized of anything it is giving too much air time to Trump's buffoon sensationalism at the expense of an examination of the real issues we should be voting on.

Yes, Trump said climate warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese

Right, but what ends up happening in dumboland is that is that nobody gets the information. Or you have to go well out of your way to get it. I don't get apocalyptic but this country is in for some dark times if it doesn't find a way to raise the level of discourse and start communicating the long game. How do you responsibly vote in that circumstance? It opens the door for the clown show we've seen this year.

Maybe you just get the party of Bloomberg that has been bandied around. I.e. a centrist merge with hegemonic foreign policy and progressive enough domestic policy to fend off the pitchforks and torches, leaving the alt right on one side and Sanders' crew on the other. And they just do their thing while the two poles fight over the soul of the nation or whatever.


With the ME - to me, it's looked like we've just mucked around over there for the longest with the people of those nations as the biggest losers. I don't see an end game and the entanglements and our involvement seem to be getting deeper, not less. I know it's naive, but what if all the damn money we spent fighting in Iraq goes to education, infrastructure development, and green energy development instead? I'm not sure we have generations to spend on this.

The "democratization" of opinion leads to what we have now. There's a term, the "Internet Shallows" which is self-explanatory.

There is an increase in some forms of good information. Dietary principles have been exploded and now you can eat fat and not get fat if you don't load up on empty calories too.

But that's mostly data and gets repackaged as fads and info products.

The information firehose is now the more dangerous diet. It is full of empty calories and minds get fat and sluggish and whereas some avail themselves of greater access to information to actually inform themselves and sharpen their faculties, the majority is lazy and will take a fast food approach to their minds, just like their bodies.

So there is no solution to this other than trying to be on the right side of history, advocating for better educational standards and hoping for intelligent leadership that can deal better with the sheeple that mostly just want to be ruled.

The forces that oppose a more educated citizenry is not only found in America. It is a global issue and it will be exploited by power elites to herd votes using fear mongering techniques because when it comes to politics that's the proven method. It worked for Hitler, it works for Trump.

To be honest, you need heroic individuals with incredible charisma and supreme powers of articulation to fight the darkness. Obama had some of those qualities, but lacked the ultimate courage. He was a pawn of sorts when he inherited the Wall Street collapse as he walked through the doors and he was at a disadvantage the rest of the way with a deeply anti-intellelectual and obstructionist congress.

Look at the great religious heroes. They were not pansies. They engaged in argumentation and debate. These days some portion of the population has fallen into a stupor of new age fallacies whereby they believe goodness is indicated by bland agreeability. You cannot be a true progressive and offend anyone is how some of the liberal trolls see it. But to fight nazi trolls you need to do battle and beat them with your minds.

So even if we find some leadership, enough of the population is so lobotomized by a misapprehension of how good and evil truly manifests that they only side with what they agree on on a surface level. There are people now who would consider MLK offensive for standing up for their rights. So it is possible the conditions may change to the positive and the population will be too far gone to back the right things.

No, we don't have generations to spend on this. This is why I said Clinton going full bore into renewable energy could make her a great president. There really is little time to waste. The human race will hit an extinction inflection in our lifetimes if we don't act.

[slacker55]

This is what the next Prez is walking into:

http://www.anonews.co/brink-of-war/

MEDIA ....In the Last 48 Hours, Humanity Just Moved to the Brink of World War

What's more troubling is that even if Russia nuked Los Angeles, I bet the country would be divided on whether or not we should nuke them back.

And this division is what ultimately gives Russia, North Korea, Iran, and even ISIS the power to do whatever they want regardless how many carriers and nuclear subs we have around the world.

[Amsterdam]

This is what the next Prez is walking into:

http://www.anonews.co/brink-of-war/

MEDIA ....In the Last 48 Hours, Humanity Just Moved to the Brink of World War

What's more troubling is that even if Russia nuked Los Angeles, I bet the country would be divided on whether or not we should nuke them back.

And this division is what ultimately gives Russia, North Korea, Iran, and even ISIS the power to do whatever they want regardless how many carriers and nuclear subs we have around the world.

Bud, are you really serious?

[slacker55]

This is what the next Prez is walking into:

http://www.anonews.co/brink-of-war/

MEDIA ....In the Last 48 Hours, Humanity Just Moved to the Brink of World War

What's more troubling is that even if Russia nuked Los Angeles, I bet the country would be divided on whether or not we should nuke them back.

And this division is what ultimately gives Russia, North Korea, Iran, and even ISIS the power to do whatever they want regardless how many carriers and nuclear subs we have around the world.

Bud, are you really serious?

Yes. I'm convinced that this country is so divided that nothing will bring everyone together right now. Not even war.

But if you disagree, I'd love to hear your reasoning.

[Dantares]

Some people on here like Clinton because the press has indoctrinated them into believing that she is on their side when it couldn't be further from the truth. Think for yourself people! Don't be a victim of their propaganda.

dude I agree with trump on the main issues.

1. Obamacare has got to go
2. Raising taxes is never good for growth
3. National security lead by Hillary sounds horrible
4. We have to start raising interest rates or we are going to have another economic bubble and deep recession. Hillary will keep Yellen around and appoint Lail Brainard(the biggest dove in the fed) to secretary of treasury. I'm not even talking about the 20 trillion in national debt we have.

Look I don't want to elect another liberal iike Obama for the reasons above but what f'ing choice do we have???!!! trump has no experience, he doesn't have the temperament to be a leader and he is racist as hell.