Amsterdam wrote:N8isScofield wrote:Amsterdam wrote:
I didn't even know how to answer him. It seemed like he's been sitting at the dinner table listening to his parents discussing Obama.
And that's just the issue. The overwhelming majority of these people are uneducated buffoons who regurgitate what they hear their bigoted parents saying. They leave high school and work menial jobs instead of going to college and then bitch and moan that it's immigrants, minorities and everyone else but them who is to blame for them making nothing of their lives. Instead of taking a look in the mirror and asking themselves why they're still pining for jobs that the very people who line the pockets of the candidates they vote for have moved overseas and then doing something (ie learning a trade or going to college) about their situation they're content to blame liberals and foreigners. It's absolutely disgusting. There's probably quite a significant percentage of Trumptards on welfare yet they're the first to point their finger at immigrants and minorities for abusing the system. By the way I am in no way looking down on anyone who chose not to go to college. College is not the be all and end all and there are plenty of intelligent people who either didn't go or didn't finish. Having said that, when you bitch and moan that your low skill job is gone and college is sitting there staring you in the face with the opportunity to gain skills to earn a good living I have no sympathy. It's also an absolute fact that the one thing college does consistently is challenge you to think critically and those who are capable of critical thinking at even a basic level are not voting for Donald Trump.
Thanks for the reply. As you said, college is not for everyone, some more progressive thinkers, would argue that college is just a factory for like thinkers.
Given the state of affairs at this time, it is difficult for a college student to think outside mainstream and argue against current trends. College at one time was a center for intellectual debate and change, which may not be the case any longer. Seems like freedom of speech in college is not considered sensitive enough and many free thinkers are not even allowed to express their views. That happens here too.
Given this, there are many who see the rift between the Republican party and Trump as a great way to shake things up. These are not ignorant people, but people who look at the entire spectrum from not only national standpoint, but just as importantly from a global or international view. Many don't rely on mainstream media but read wide ranging editorials and use social media outlets that provide totally unbiased reporting. Sometimes not endearing to our general public's rah rah type.
For example, some have said that these elections have already been rigged for awhile. While they are called conspiracy theorists, a realist looks at politics from a historical perspective and face the facts that all is possible and go from there.
The elections are heavily leveraged with existing advantages. Clinton had greater advantages and Sanders still almost won. A superior challenger to Sanders (I like him, voted for him in the primaries, but I'm realistic too ..... he's not a great candidate) could have taken over the Democratic platform this election just like Trump did with the RNC.
So this was a window in time for change. Sanders would have represented one kind of change. Trump represents another. Clinton is the closest to status quo but I say that with a strong proviso. Again, Obama was obstructed by a congress less interested in change than in partisanship. If by any chance Clinton does get both houses turn Dem then we'll truly learn what is status quo or not. Too often people point to things without context and blame or praise accordingly. An example of that is blaming Hillary for Isis when the historical conditions Obama inherited fall squarely on the shoulders of George W. Bush.
So saying things are rigged is to me another example of simplistic thought when in reality those in power use available means to continue their hold on their offices. Yet, time and again, history shows they can be and are unseated even with immense advantages so if people don't organize and vote they may have themselves to blame as much as any ambitious politician. The crudest, most demeaning tactic being deployed presently is not efforts to rig, but propaganda to say this election is rigged. Talk about sore losers projecting their future loss and hedging it by trying to claim martyrdom when they lose. That's the dirtiest game being played at the moment.
And if we want to talk about rigged elections, then it is the Republican party's karma that needs cleansing, not the Dems because GW Bush did steal the presidency from Al Gore with the assistance of his brother Jeb. That was the day modern democracy truly died, because that was a real theft of power. So far, there is nothing to indicate any such skullduggery coming forth from Clinton's backers in this election, yet Trump plays his dog whistle politics trying to rile up his more cro-magnon followers into a rebellious frenzy that on election day and after could get people hurt or result in white on minority intimidation at the polls which is the intended underlying message behind what Trump is doing. It won't work, but that is the place to look if we want to talk about fairplay this November.
The question that needs to be asked is who is a true game changer that can run next time and do what Sanders did not manage to do? And is that person even a Democrat or a third flank and a true independent?
