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Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#1 » by dockingsched » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:19 pm

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Lillard: 12 of 30 pts were great shots over good defense. Main issue was taking advantage of mozgov on pnr. DLo had mental /communication mistakes on D, off ball defenders ball watching at times.

DLo: missed open shots, only forced 2 bad shots, mostly made correct reads of when to pass though execution wasn't always there. Defensively lots of issues present.

Randle: best game so far, too big for some too quick for others. Found shooters in transition. Just a few times was a bit wild. Good defense on guards after a switch. Help d covered a ton of ground

Vid has review of the rest of the players.
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#2 » by dockingsched » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:20 pm

Can we make this post game video review an every game thing based on these videos? Brings a total new look at the game that should help us be more informed and look at the game in a more critical way not just looking at stats
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#3 » by Slava » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:18 pm

Its amazing how much Luke has been able to coax out of Nick Young.
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Post#4 » by lake_show » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:24 pm

Straight off the bat I think people are making too much of the late turnover by Randle towards the end of the game. He was pushing too quick and got himself caught in a bad position. Yes, it was a bad play. But overall he had a very good game.

Last year it seemed like he was getting caught in those types of plays every other possession. This year he's way more controlled. I think the new offense suits him very well. The high ISO offense that Byron was running put him in a lot of situations where he was trying to go 1 on 2 (or more lol). I like what Luke is doing with him this year. A lot of hand offs. A lot of screen and rolls. There is a long list of players who are much improved defensively this year, and he's one of'em. We struggled against Portland, but it's all the upgraded defensive effort that made Denver not even look competitive against us.

His jump shot still needs to improve tho.
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#5 » by lake_show » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:29 pm

Slava wrote:Its amazing how much Luke has been able to coax out of Nick Young.


Byron ran an ISO heavy offense, and while Nick does have some ISO moves he's much more of a catch and shoot guy. Or, a catch plus 1 or 2 moves, and shoot guy. Also, I think he really just wants to be here. Before the whole D'Lo incident he was very close to the young guys. I'm blown away by how well he's played and looked. More importantly defensively he's been solid.

After these few games and how well he's played I'm hoping he's our answer to Lou Williams as a starting SG.
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#6 » by Slava » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:42 pm

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Slava wrote:Its amazing how much Luke has been able to coax out of Nick Young.


Byron ran an ISO heavy offense, and while Nick does have some ISO moves he's much more of a catch and shoot guy. Or, a catch plus 1 or 2 moves, and shoot guy. Also, I think he really just wants to be here. Before the whole D'Lo incident he was very close to the young guys. I'm blown away by how well he's played and looked. More importantly defensively he's been solid.

After these few games and how well he's played I'm hoping he's our answer to Lou Williams as a starting SG.


Its not just the offense, I've never seen him be involved in fighting through screens, making drive and kick plays or crashing offensive boards.
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#7 » by lake_show » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:58 pm

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Slava wrote:Its amazing how much Luke has been able to coax out of Nick Young.


Byron ran an ISO heavy offense, and while Nick does have some ISO moves he's much more of a catch and shoot guy. Or, a catch plus 1 or 2 moves, and shoot guy. Also, I think he really just wants to be here. Before the whole D'Lo incident he was very close to the young guys. I'm blown away by how well he's played and looked. More importantly defensively he's been solid.

After these few games and how well he's played I'm hoping he's our answer to Lou Williams as a starting SG.


Its not just the offense, I've never seen him be involved in fighting through screens, making drive and kick plays or crashing offensive boards.


Yeah, the dude in the video is like "and I guess [Nick] driving and dishing, or grabbing an offensive rebound for a put back is a thing now???" lol.

But you're right, his transformation is night and day. Last year all he wanted to do is catch and shoot... and nothing else. I don't know where this is coming from but it's great. That's another weapon added to the team. In a year where I was already excited for the season to start seeing him and guys like Tarik Black play this good makes this season even more interesting. I hope it continues. He looks great tho. Who would've thought?
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Post#8 » by The Skyhook » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:29 pm

Loving this game review. I can easily find 20 minutes in my day to watch these and get a better sense of how the team is progressing over the course of the season.

I'm noticing D'Angelo utilizing that ball fake a lot more often so far this year. I know he is close with Rondo so it wouldn't surprise me if he studied a bit of Rondo's game tape in the offseason.
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Post#9 » by crazyeights » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:00 am

Slava wrote:Its amazing how much Luke has been able to coax out of Nick Young.


I know last year was rough, but IMO Nick had already started to change.

After the loss to Golden State, Nick Young was asked what the Lakers’ biggest problem was on Tuesday night. Though he didn’t mention Kobe by name, it was pretty clear who he was referencing in his unflattering response:

@LAIreland asked Nick Young what LAL can do better, his response: ā€œWe can’t let one guy determine everything. We have to play as a team"
— Serena Winters (@SerenaWinters) November 25, 2015

Swaggy P went on:

Nick Young continued: "It can’t be like a video game & you’re playing w/ your favorite player, you know? We’ve all got to share the ball.ā€
— Serena Winters (@SerenaWinters) November 25, 2015


http://lakeshowlife.com/2015/11/24/lakers-nick-young-calls-out-kobe-bryant

That was in November. Obviously he had a bad season only made worse by what happened off the court, but I believe Nick was starting to turn the corner. Regardless, I'm really excited about Nick's defense--and that can't just be relating to his personal maturity, because you see it in everybody. These guys are collectively looking like they're out there to compete every day.

The culture that Luke and his staff are cultivating is a huge step in the right direction. If they continue to stay together over what's bound to be a bumpy season (with so much many new responsibilities going around) I think we can surprise a lot of people.
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Post#10 » by stan francisco » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:05 am

I'm not surprised one bit.

Removing Kobe and BS means 15 more wins at least — addition by subtraction via better brand of ball (any other coach).

Adding Luke who comes from the school of John Wooden, Bill Walton, Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr, and assuming summer development of the young core is decent to good, that should put us up another 10 wins from last year.

Some of us predicted this last season and were called homers, unreasonable, ridiculous. This is exactly why I predicted around 40 wins before preseason started. Not so unfathomable anymore.

It's part Luke's great positive vibe and culture of inclusion and belief, it's part development, and it's part total enthusiasm over having BS gone and over simple ball movement (that Kobe's farewell years wouldn't allow for.) When it comes down to it, it's about having fun and playing for/with each other, not playing for BS, not about watching Kobe go 1 on 5 with a cane.

Either way, I'm extatic over the highlights. Cant wait for when league pass let's me watch what I paid for.
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#11 » by TylersLakers » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:29 pm

Haven't had a chance to sit down and watch these videos yet, but he's a great follow on Twitter as well.
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#12 » by Danny Darko » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:05 am

Yeah man, to echo... I cannot believe I'm seeing Nick defend as adeptly as he is and fighting through blue collar mosh pits. I think Mitch put the fear of god in him, the market woke him up that no one will take his ass, and Luke offered him a life line he is taking hook line and sinker. Dude has no celeb fiance, he looked washed up, he was the guy in the wtf video who didn't have potential or youth to keep him afloat, and he looks about ready to run through a wall for Luke. Let's see how long he can keep it up.
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Post#13 » by tugs » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:10 am

Can't believe I'd be saying Nick is the perfect 3&D complement beside Russell at the 2 spot.

Starting 5's length would do wonders defensively.
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Post#14 » by nurseryc » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:43 pm

Why is there no mention of Ingram?
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Post#16 » by The Skyhook » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:44 pm

Can't believe I'm saying it but as long as Nick can play within the system and not fall into the whole iso-ball mindset then he'll be a solid fit next to Russell. My biggest worry with him isn't his skill set but whether or not he can stay focused throughout the course of the season. They're having fun now but how is he going to respond when the team goes through a rough patch?

In this scenario Lou will be the odd man out and I'm completely fine with that. With Nick and Lou there's only room room in he rotation for one of them and I like how Nick fits with this team.
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Post#17 » by lake_show » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:55 am

nurseryc wrote:Why is there no mention of Ingram?


The video does breakdown Ingram's game. You want to watch around the 12:45 mark.

I think a lot of people aren't commenting on Ingram's game tho because there hasn't been a lot to comment on

His length defensively is insane. He's been at his best, and able to affect the game most on the defensive end. That said he's also had a handful of lapses and it seems like the game is a still a little fast for him. Most peole aren't commenting on him because it's clear he's still getting settled.

Offensively, while he's had a couple nice flashes here and there, he's struggled with his shot and finding his spots.

I think he'll be good, but he's still kind of finding his way. Most people are just giving him some time to get settled, I think.
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Post#18 » by stan francisco » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:02 am

Ingram will be a beast. Just give him some time. I love that he's so into playing defense. In Luke I trust.
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Post#19 » by ozymandias818 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:21 pm

The Skyhook wrote:Can't believe I'm saying it but as long as Nick can play within the system and not fall into the whole iso-ball mindset then he'll be a solid fit next to Russell. My biggest worry with him isn't his skill set but whether or not he can stay focused throughout the course of the season. They're having fun now but how is he going to respond when the team goes through a rough patch?

In this scenario Lou will be the odd man out and I'm completely fine with that. With Nick and Lou there's only room room in he rotation for one of them and I like how Nick fits with this team.

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Nick has needed to go for a long time. He's not worth a fraction of his contract, which isn't something you can say about Lou. Who cares about fit? We're not trying to make a title run this year. Young is exactly the type of player you don't want on a rebuilding team with young players. Get rid of him now. Hold onto Lou, a solid bench scorer on a contending team with a good contract, and as such a very valuable chip at the trade deadline.
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Re: Post game video review: 10/11 vs Blazers 

Post#20 » by lake_show » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:22 pm

ozymandias818 wrote:
The Skyhook wrote:Can't believe I'm saying it but as long as Nick can play within the system and not fall into the whole iso-ball mindset then he'll be a solid fit next to Russell. My biggest worry with him isn't his skill set but whether or not he can stay focused throughout the course of the season. They're having fun now but how is he going to respond when the team goes through a rough patch?

In this scenario Lou will be the odd man out and I'm completely fine with that. With Nick and Lou there's only room room in he rotation for one of them and I like how Nick fits with this team.

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Nick has needed to go for a long time. He's not worth a fraction of his contract, which isn't something you can say about Lou. Who cares about fit? We're not trying to make a title run this year. Young is exactly the type of player you don't want on a rebuilding team with young players. Get rid of him now. Hold onto Lou, a solid bench scorer on a contending team with a good contract, and as such a very valuable chip at the trade deadline.


What does contract matter? You're paying for him whether you like it or not. Unless you trade him, but even if you do, you have to match up contracts so you're paying the same amount either way. For what? What do you get? Plus, you can't play Lou on this roster. Aside from a couple stretches here and there he is either incapable or completely unwilling to play defense as a starter. He's constantly in the wrong spots during the offensive sets. He tends get to a spot on the floor and once he's there he is unwilling to move (which he did a lot of last year too).

For him to be effective he needs the ball in his hands and he needs to put up a lot of shots and draw a lot of fouls. Or, you can play him in very short stretches as a spot up shooter.

We don't have to play him for him to be a "very valuable chip at the trade deadline". The only reason we were playing him is because we had no one else. Is there off court risk with Nick? Maybe. But you cant let the possibility of something "maybe" happening make all your decisions for you. Nick is absolutely, by far, the better player right now. As such, he deserves to play. You can like Lou all you want but if he ain't doing his job he DOESN'T deserve to play.
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