jmort wrote:It's always good to stop and check your premises though. If you start to find yourself repeating garbage about Wikileaks being in league with the Russians (even, or especially, if it's true), then chill for a second. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. There Is Nothing To Fear. READ the Goldman-Sachs speeches, for example. It's just information. No one's Hidden Agendas matter a lick.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11011Maybe you'll feel some discomfort at the contrast between (relatively!) straightforward discussion of the nitty-gritty workings of governments and the hollow bloviation we're treated to on TV. But if the world made sense, this leak would murder Trump. From start to finish it all straight-up reeks of nothing but Complete and Utter Competence.
It's like... Magnus Carlsson is playing a simultaneous chess exhibition against a roomful of Indian teenagers and Donald Trump gets up telling him to step aside and let me Make America Great Again. Or Mandingo is taking care of the monthly meeting of the Roanoke Sewing and Crafts Club and Donald Trump comes in telling him to sit his ass down and let me Make America Great Again...
What a joke. And here I was about to vote for Jill Stein.
Irregardless of involvement of Russian hackers or not I have yet to see any true smoking guns. As you're saying there are plenty of people repeating the refrain that Clinton is exposed, yet when called upon to produce what exactly the damning evidence is they don't really have anything concrete to say.
Earlier today we had one guy on here who is from Eastern Europe who routinely posts things that backfire in their face because they don't take the time to actually vet the material as you're suggesting they do. They just see someone else claim it is negative and then blindly pass it on. They posted a wikileak as if they were proving Clinton cronies were busted planning the NWO when it was nothing of the sort.
I don't know how hard it is for people to actually do just a little bit of homework or to actually read an article in full and processing its actual meaning before posting a quote out of context. Evidently people have the time to pass on undigested claims, but not to do their own thinking.
For the most part, the average hardcore Trump supporter who posts online is dedicated to posting links given to them to propogate, but there is little in-depth analysis on their part.
I have yet to see a Clinton voter on here claim anything outrageously pro-Clinton in support of their rationale for voting for her. Every Clinton supporter seems entirely capable of discussing her various flaws without requiring a counter-example about Trump's failings.
Yet it is still rare that a Trump supporter can actually grasp what his failings are without reflexively pointing at Clinton like Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and yowling "Benghazi!". There is no quid pro quo in this discourse thus far.
Trump's base support is essentially cultic. Clinton's support is essentially pragmatic.