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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#981 » by CJackson » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:00 am

GONYK wrote:- Trump brags about sexually assaulting women and getting away with it because he's famous
- Women come forward and say that Trump did exactly what he bragged about doing
- Trump claims it is a global conspiracy and everyone is making it up

Also, when did Fox News stop being the mainstream media? They will be the first to tell you that they are the most watched cable news network.

Or is that forgotten since that is the only channel Trump will appear on now?


After Trump loses, 5 weeks later his trial for raping a 13 year old is scheduled to begin.

I wonder why Trump's supporters are not so eager to promote that.

Or why they don't acknowledge that the media could be promoting that upcoming trial like flies on poop, but they aren't and mostly are just focusing on what is happening in real time as the election approaches.

This hysteria about the media going after Trump has become infantile. Trump is a giant baby pooping his pants in public on a daily basis while running for president and his fan boys expect that not to be reported? These protestations are absurd and almost as childish as Trump himself
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#982 » by Jeffrey » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:15 am

I hope President Obama pulls out his SC nomination. Let Hillary choose the SC.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#983 » by CJackson » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:27 am

Jeffrey wrote:I hope President Obama pulls out his SC nomination. Let Hillary choose the SC.


I forgot about that. Let's hope so
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Post#984 » by earthmansurfer » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:10 am

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earthmansurfer wrote:It is going to be difficult to prosecute Hillary as the corruption is deep, this just out:

Chaffetz: New Clinton files contain allegations of 'quid pro quo' with FBI

snippet (and note, of course the FBI rejects this.

The head of the House Oversight Committee said Friday that there may be allegations of "quid pro quo" between a top Hillary Clinton aide and an FBI official detailed in newly released documents from the bureau's investigation of Clinton's private email server.


Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) has not reviewed the documents released Friday, he told Fox News, but based on briefings he said "there was an alleged quid pro quo” between the State Department's Undersecretary for Management Patrick Kennedy and an FBI official over a classified email.
“In return for altering the classification, the possibility of additional slots for the FBI at missions overseas was discussed,” Chaffetz said.

"This is a flashing red light of potential criminality," said Chaffetz.

He said he was "infuriated" by the news and said there are grounds for at least four congressional hearings on the issue.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/301215-chaffetz-new-clinton-files-contain-allegations-of-quid-pro-quo#.WALx4kKBL2M.twitter


How is that helpful to anyone?

This guy hasn't had the time to review the materials yet they were briefed on it? They must be joking.

So let me get this straight, they don't have the time to do their homework, but they have the time to spread rumors.

Like you just did.


Just look at the connection between Comey and Clinton. Now tell me you were not aware and this is for starters:
1. "But Comey earned $6 million in one year alone from Lockheed Martin. Lockheed Martin became a Clinton Foundation donor that very year."
2. "In 2013, Comey became a board member, a director, and a Financial System Vulnerabilities Committee member of the London bank HSBC Holdings." "HSBC Holdings and its various philanthropic branches routinely partner with the Clinton Foundation. "
3. Look at the immunity grants (5?) from Comey to Hillaries aides. Wow.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#985 » by earthmansurfer » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:18 am

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earthmansurfer wrote:How much more time does "mainstream" really have? tic toc tic toc

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Do you even know what constitutes news?

You are citing a zealots poll as a counterweight to some vague notion of the "mainstream"

Again, how is that helpful or indicative of anything?

You want to combat bias by citing the most biased imaginable poll and claim 95% of the public trusts wikileaks. That's absurd. You'd be lucky if 50% of the public can distinguish between wikileaks and Dairy Queen


Everything happening around us is news. The Big media focus on things that sell, divide, manipulate, get agendas passed, etc.

All of this BS coming out about Trump right when leaks are made about important things affecting the nation that Clinton was behind/connected to - the timing of it - that is BIG News and mostly not even covered (The Clinton side).

This is helpful as it shows another side. There is a reason Big Media has been dying for years and this is just more proof of it.
Only a few thousand, but it is the way many polls have been going. Fewer and fewer people trust mainstream news as it is run by 6 families/companies or so.

I'd give Americans (and any peoples) more credit than not being able to decipher Wikileaks from dairy queen - got to have faith in the human race.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#986 » by WesleyExChiFan » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:03 am

Thing about Wikileaks is, can you trust the info not to have been tampered with by the Russians? Where do you think Wikileaks got the info? Our intelligence agencies think they got it from Russian intelligence.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#987 » by CJackson » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:07 am

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earthmansurfer wrote:How much more time does "mainstream" really have? tic toc tic toc

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Do you even know what constitutes news?

You are citing a zealots poll as a counterweight to some vague notion of the "mainstream"

Again, how is that helpful or indicative of anything?

You want to combat bias by citing the most biased imaginable poll and claim 95% of the public trusts wikileaks. That's absurd. You'd be lucky if 50% of the public can distinguish between wikileaks and Dairy Queen


Everything happening around us is news. The Big media focus on things that sell, divide, manipulate, get agendas passed, etc.

All of this BS coming out about Trump right when leaks are made about important things affecting the nation that Clinton was behind/connected to - the timing of it - that is BIG News and mostly not even covered (The Clinton side).

This is helpful as it shows another side. There is a reason Big Media has been dying for years and this is just more proof of it.
Only a few thousand, but it is the way many polls have been going. Fewer and fewer people trust mainstream news as it is run by 6 families/companies or so.

I'd give Americans (and any peoples) more credit than not being able to decipher Wikileaks from dairy queen - got to have faith in the human race.


OK, your post is news. This response is news. Happy?
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#988 » by N8isScofield » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:37 am

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method wrote:Its the fact hat 80 % of the media is attacking Trump is enough for me to see Trump is an outsider and real change, needed change will only happen with him..His own party hasn't dropped a dime for him on TV ads as soon as they find out he was the Republic nomine.His own party is against him since day one.Its time to lock up the Clinton Bush crime family.Please don't believe me please do your own research...this is life or death election.Please I beg you do your own research.

That 80% figure is a direct quote from Bill O'Reilly. That's the biggest problem with the average Tea Party turd. You're all one stupid hive mind incapable of forming your own opinions. If it weren't for Breitbart, Fox and Alex Jones you people would just sit motionless drooling in your subterranean lairs.

How much are you getting to be a Clinton troll you ducking sellout..Nobody in there right mind would stick up for that piece of shiyt cept a tard like you

I just have one question for you...if every one of your posts is riddled with spelling and grammatical letters and I'm a "tard" what do you think that makes you? You are exactly what I picture the average Trump supporter to be. You're a stupid little weasel probably typing your sad insults from a doublewide trailer somewhere. When you aren't embarrassing yourself in this thread you probably pass your time lubricating tweezers so you can crank it to pictures of Alex Jones engaging in bestial relations with Ann Coulter. I'm not even going to call you a troll because you clearly believe the stupid sh*t that you type. I pity you and the 6 toed babies I have no doubt your cousin or sister will carry for you. Now to the ignore list you go.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#989 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:56 am

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Trump's Name is Mud!

Is that Harry Mudd? Very similar personalities.


nah. I was playing the reference game Buzz and I like to play. It was referring to this because he mentioned Les Claypool who is the bassist and leader of Primus. My Name is Mud is from an amazing Primus album called Pork Soda



I'm a big Primus fan, but I may like Les Claypool's post Primus efforts better (well, not all of them). He takes a lot of chances and does a lot of really cool stuff. I'm sort of partial to Bucket of Bernie Brains and Flying Frog Brigade, but it's all good.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#990 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:09 am

method wrote:
CJackson wrote:
method wrote:And there isnt one shred of proof that Trump is a violent sexual predator just because the Clintons had women come forward to smear his name and the the maas media that is in conclusion with the Clintons admitted in Podestas emails doesnt make it true....

You sir need to do some research instead of day dreaming of KP6s crossover believing everything the mass media tells you to believe.


Again, you go do your own research and don't vent at us.

Telling the board Trump is not a sexual predator doesn't exactly make you well informed does it?

His own wife file a rape charge against him. He beat her, tore a chunk of hair off her scalp and then raped her. She testified to that effect in a deposition.

So please don't come on here yelling at others about doing their homework, OK?

The least credible thing you could have said is Trump is not a sexual predator. Come on man.
Nobodys yelling,just trying to get a point across.You are the one calling me paranoid for taking a threat from Russia as real.just because because I go beyond what the the main stream media wants me to believe doesnt make me less informed.You buying it hook line and sinker makes you a low info voter to me ...but whatever.


The threat for Russia is real, but it's always real. Russia has been a power for hundreds of years, more or less, in terms of years and power, communist or not. And since we've thrown in with Central Europe that last 3/4 century, that makes up in opposition. Of course there are the global aspirations as well, but shorthand, Russia has generally always tried to expand west and central euro powers (Germany etc) have tried to expand east.

Putins "threat" is interesting since it's timing helps one party that leverages fear and "strong on defense" as planks, but I think it's not that. It's just one of those posturing moves superpowers do. In this case, it's over the Ukraine and Syria. Yeah, it's not joke; Russia considers them strategically important, especially the Ukraine -former breadbasket of Russia, only warm water port. Yeah, I think they're never letting it go.

Trump has a lot of sketchy ties to Russia that have been publicly discussed. I"m more concerned about his pro-tampering in the election remarks to a country and pro remarks about it's leader, when that country isn't an ally, and really is a rival. Enemy is too strong a word, but it's on the borderline. Their interests aren't ours, 75% of the time.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#991 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:16 am

N8isScofield wrote:
method wrote:
N8isScofield wrote:That 80% figure is a direct quote from Bill O'Reilly. That's the biggest problem with the average Tea Party turd. You're all one stupid hive mind incapable of forming your own opinions. If it weren't for Breitbart, Fox and Alex Jones you people would just sit motionless drooling in your subterranean lairs.

How much are you getting to be a Clinton troll you ducking sellout..Nobody in there right mind would stick up for that piece of shiyt cept a tard like you

I just have one question for you...if every one of your posts is riddled with spelling and grammatical letters and I'm a "tard" what do you think that makes you? You are exactly what I picture the average Trump supporter to be. You're a stupid little weasel probably typing your sad insults from a doublewide trailer somewhere. When you aren't embarrassing yourself in this thread you probably pass your time lubricating tweezers so you can crank it to pictures of Alex Jones engaging in bestial relations with Ann Coulter. I'm not even going to call you a troll because you clearly believe the stupid sh*t that you type. I pity you and the 6 toed babies I have no doubt your cousin or sister will carry for you. Now to the ignore list you go.



Method and other Trump supporters have a point on the media, but I "think" they are mixing the condescension of the media with a conspiracy to take him down, other than they have rallied against what a lot of Americans perceive as a threat.

That said, the coverage of his campaign tends to NOT cover his positive populist (maybe stolen) messages and paints his supporters in a stereotypical manner, not that some of them don't deserve it. His supporters see this, as they are sensitive to it, and it confirms their suspicions of the elite. Honestly, if you pay careful attention, non Trump supporters should see this bias as well.

I'm with Taibbi. I totally understand what is driving his campaign on the populist side and it would have GREAT for a good populist conservative candidate to emerge. Instead, we got this shuckster clown, which winds up setting those items back in the American agenda, as well get Hilary and 8 more years, probably of the same corporate oligarchy bullsh*t. Plus a segment (large) even more angry and isolated from the government.

This are the things that lead to people expressing themselves politically in ways other than votes. You know, like riots, shootings, bombings, those sorts of things. Not saying it happens, but it starts us further down that road we're already on.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#992 » by duetta » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:17 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I'm with Taibbi. I totally understand what is driving his campaign on the populist side and it would have GREAT for a good populist conservative candidate to emerge. Instead, we got this shuckster clown, which winds up setting those items back in the American agenda, as well get Hilary and 8 more years, probably of the same corporate oligarchy bullsh*t. Plus a segment (large) even more angry and isolated from the government.

This are the things that lead to people expressing themselves politically in ways other than votes. You know, like riots, shootings, bombings, those sorts of things. Not saying it happens, but it starts us further down that road we're already on.


The problem with the Trump supporters is that they kept voting for candidates who had no interest in helping them. The Democrats are a center-left party that found electoral success by moving to the center (much like Labor in the UK). The Republicans continued to move farther right every election - and yet managed to continue winning the votes of lower middle class whites being disenfranchised by globalism. Trump says he's going to change all this - yet nothing in his history or behavior suggests he is legitimately concerned about anything but his own vanity. He is as much a creature of the globalist elite as anyone - which is likely the real reason why he refuses to disclose his taxes - but without their redeeming qualities.

The funniest part of this thread is usually when the Trump supporters claim that his detractors have been brainwashed - when all the evidence suggest that they're the people who have drunk the most offensive, reactionary Kool Aid known to man. As a life-long New Yorker, I've lived with Trump's presence since the early 80s - and he's always been a self-promoting buffoon. I never bought into his shallow act at all. But I never knew that he would stoop this low in an effort to seize political power.

If we want to fix this thing, we're going to have to put our heads together and start thinking nationally (as I've written continually elsewhere, both in the NY Times and in my own pieces for my website). But Trump is not a nationalist. Trump is a narcissist. A narcissist cannot convince anyone to begin caring about his countrymen - and understanding that we're all in this together is the soul of a defensible 21st century nationalism, as opposed to a fascist state.

America will never be a white Christian nation again - and there's nothing than anyone can do about it. If the racists and bigots have an issue with this, then my advice is that they make alternative arrangements - because we're as sick of them as they claim to be of us. The future of America will be multi-racial, multi-ethnic, and multi-spiritual. The smarter America's people collectively become, the better our nation will do.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#993 » by earthmansurfer » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:44 pm

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earthmansurfer wrote:
CJackson wrote:
Do you even know what constitutes news?

You are citing a zealots poll as a counterweight to some vague notion of the "mainstream"

Again, how is that helpful or indicative of anything?

You want to combat bias by citing the most biased imaginable poll and claim 95% of the public trusts wikileaks. That's absurd. You'd be lucky if 50% of the public can distinguish between wikileaks and Dairy Queen


Everything happening around us is news. The Big media focus on things that sell, divide, manipulate, get agendas passed, etc.

All of this BS coming out about Trump right when leaks are made about important things affecting the nation that Clinton was behind/connected to - the timing of it - that is BIG News and mostly not even covered (The Clinton side).

This is helpful as it shows another side. There is a reason Big Media has been dying for years and this is just more proof of it.
Only a few thousand, but it is the way many polls have been going. Fewer and fewer people trust mainstream news as it is run by 6 families/companies or so.

I'd give Americans (and any peoples) more credit than not being able to decipher Wikileaks from dairy queen - got to have faith in the human race.


OK, your post is news. This response is news. Happy?


I don't get your post, I was being sincere in my reply.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#994 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:51 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I'm with Taibbi. I totally understand what is driving his campaign on the populist side and it would have GREAT for a good populist conservative candidate to emerge. Instead, we got this shuckster clown, which winds up setting those items back in the American agenda, as well get Hilary and 8 more years, probably of the same corporate oligarchy bullsh*t. Plus a segment (large) even more angry and isolated from the government.

This are the things that lead to people expressing themselves politically in ways other than votes. You know, like riots, shootings, bombings, those sorts of things. Not saying it happens, but it starts us further down that road we're already on.


The problem with the Trump supporters is that they kept voting for candidates who had no interest in helping them. The Democrats are a center-left party that found electoral success by moving to the center (much like Labor in the UK). The Republicans continued to move farther right every election - and yet managed to continue winning the votes of lower middle class whites being disenfranchised by globalism. Trump says he's going to change all this - yet nothing in his history or behavior suggests he is legitimately concerned about anything but his own vanity. He is as much a creature of the globalist elite as anyone - which is likely the real reason why he refuses to disclose his taxes - but without their redeeming qualities.

The funniest part of this thread is usually when the Trump supporters claim that his detractors have been brainwashed - when all the evidence suggest that they're the people who have drunk the most offensive, reactionary Kool Aid known to man. As a life-long New Yorker, I've lived with Trump's presence since the early 80s - and he's always been a self-promoting buffoon. I never bought into his shallow act at all. But I never knew that he would stoop this low in an effort to seize political power.

If we want to fix this thing, we're going to have to put our heads together and start thinking nationally (as I've written continually elsewhere, both in the NY Times and in my own pieces for my website). But Trump is not a nationalist. Trump is a narcissist. A narcissist cannot convince anyone to begin caring about his countrymen - and understanding that we're all in this together is the soul of a defensible 21st century nationalism, as opposed to a fascist state.

America will never be a white Christian nation again - and there's nothing than anyone can do about it. If the racists and bigots have an issue with this, then my advice is that they make alternative arrangements - because we're as sick of them as they claim to be of us. The future of America will be multi-racial, multi-ethnic, and multi-spiritual. The smarter America's people collectively become, the better our nation will do.



Well, yeah, the Republicans have been trolling that base for votes for years, not in their interests, other than the stances on abortion and guns.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#995 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:05 pm

duetta wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:I'm with Taibbi. I totally understand what is driving his campaign on the populist side and it would have GREAT for a good populist conservative candidate to emerge. Instead, we got this shuckster clown, which winds up setting those items back in the American agenda, as well get Hilary and 8 more years, probably of the same corporate oligarchy bullsh*t. Plus a segment (large) even more angry and isolated from the government.

This are the things that lead to people expressing themselves politically in ways other than votes. You know, like riots, shootings, bombings, those sorts of things. Not saying it happens, but it starts us further down that road we're already on.


The problem with the Trump supporters is that they kept voting for candidates who had no interest in helping them. The Democrats are a center-left party that found electoral success by moving to the center (much like Labor in the UK). The Republicans continued to move farther right every election - and yet managed to continue winning the votes of lower middle class whites being disenfranchised by globalism. Trump says he's going to change all this - yet nothing in his history or behavior suggests he is legitimately concerned about anything but his own vanity. He is as much a creature of the globalist elite as anyone - which is likely the real reason why he refuses to disclose his taxes - but without their redeeming qualities.

The funniest part of this thread is usually when the Trump supporters claim that his detractors have been brainwashed - when all the evidence suggest that they're the people who have drunk the most offensive, reactionary Kool Aid known to man. As a life-long New Yorker, I've lived with Trump's presence since the early 80s - and he's always been a self-promoting buffoon. I never bought into his shallow act at all. But I never knew that he would stoop this low in an effort to seize political power.

If we want to fix this thing, we're going to have to put our heads together and start thinking nationally (as I've written continually elsewhere, both in the NY Times and in my own pieces for my website). But Trump is not a nationalist. Trump is a narcissist. A narcissist cannot convince anyone to begin caring about his countrymen - and understanding that we're all in this together is the soul of a defensible 21st century nationalism, as opposed to a fascist state.

America will never be a white Christian nation again - and there's nothing than anyone can do about it. If the racists and bigots have an issue with this, then my advice is that they make alternative arrangements - because we're as sick of them as they claim to be of us. The future of America will be multi-racial, multi-ethnic, and multi-spiritual. The smarter America's people collectively become, the better our nation will do.


I just wanted to address the "white, Christian" part. I get that that is a LARGE part of Trumps appeal. Oh, and I have the same timeline as you regarding Trump and NYC. I try to tell my friends who are into him in other parts of the country - "everyone old enough in NYC knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's a self aggrandizing buffoon, always has been. Narcissist to the max.

My statement is more along the lines of echoing Taibbi, that there are some legitimate grievances his supporter have, outside of the more ignorant ones. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, they've become attracted to a guy who's a charlatan, instead of going with a legitimate candidate. The clown show the republicans put forth didn't help the matter. Also, echo Taibbi in that he's the worst possible result - it would have been great if a legitimate republican populist emerged who engaged this crowd on the real issues, instead of this guy. It's a set back. And I worry he's just setting the stage for more divisiveness.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#996 » by GONYK » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:15 pm

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earthmansurfer wrote:It is going to be difficult to prosecute Hillary as the corruption is deep, this just out:

Chaffetz: New Clinton files contain allegations of 'quid pro quo' with FBI

snippet (and note, of course the FBI rejects this.


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/301215-chaffetz-new-clinton-files-contain-allegations-of-quid-pro-quo#.WALx4kKBL2M.twitter


How is that helpful to anyone?

This guy hasn't had the time to review the materials yet they were briefed on it? They must be joking.

So let me get this straight, they don't have the time to do their homework, but they have the time to spread rumors.

Like you just did.


Just look at the connection between Comey and Clinton. Now tell me you were not aware and this is for starters:
1. "But Comey earned $6 million in one year alone from Lockheed Martin. Lockheed Martin became a Clinton Foundation donor that very year."
2. "In 2013, Comey became a board member, a director, and a Financial System Vulnerabilities Committee member of the London bank HSBC Holdings." "HSBC Holdings and its various philanthropic branches routinely partner with the Clinton Foundation. "
3. Look at the immunity grants (5?) from Comey to Hillaries aides. Wow.


Literally none of that would hold up in a court of law. Calling that circumstantial would be very generous.

That is why nobody is talking about it. There is nothing to talk about.
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Post#997 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:33 pm

Trump now pivoting to the second tier of his creating customers for his new network; purported voter fraud. Unbelievable.
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Post#998 » by reub » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:45 pm

A "state actor" has cut off Assange's Wikileaks internet access, at least for now. Now who would benefit most from keeping the truth from us?

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Post#999 » by MaseInYourFace » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:48 pm

Republicans should have had this election. They blew it. A reasonable dude not named Bush would have won this election for them. Someone like Kashich. Anyway they got what they deserved.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1000 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:52 pm

ClydeRules wrote:A "state actor" has cut off Assange's Wikileaks internet access, at least for now. Now who would benefit most from keeping the truth from us?

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What truths do you want to hear? What has been revealed thus far is just a bit more material than a complete joke. I support public transparency but I can't help but feel nervous about external actors, not acting in our country's best interest, attempting to affect our election. Does that not bother you?

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