Moderators: LyricalRico, nate33, montestewart
Induveca wrote:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727
Podesta agreeing Iran deal condemns next generation to nuclear cleanup in the Middle East. Guess this is the publi/private position thing.
montestewart wrote:Induveca wrote:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727
Podesta agreeing Iran deal condemns next generation to nuclear cleanup in the Middle East. Guess this is the publi/private position thing.
I can't really tell if you believe the conclusions you're posting or you're just trying to provoke responses, but it sure keeps the roundtable lively.
AFM wrote:montestewart wrote:Induveca wrote:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727
Podesta agreeing Iran deal condemns next generation to nuclear cleanup in the Middle East. Guess this is the publi/private position thing.
I can't really tell if you believe the conclusions you're posting or you're just trying to provoke responses, but it sure keeps the roundtable lively.
What happened to Nate?
I hope HRC didn't have him taken care of, like Seth Rich.
AFM wrote:montestewart wrote:Induveca wrote:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727
Podesta agreeing Iran deal condemns next generation to nuclear cleanup in the Middle East. Guess this is the publi/private position thing.
I can't really tell if you believe the conclusions you're posting or you're just trying to provoke responses, but it sure keeps the roundtable lively.
What happened to Nate?
I hope HRC didn't have him taken care of, like Seth Rich.
payitforward wrote:Strong recommendation to read this WSJ piece -- http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-economy-doesnt-roar-anymore-1476458742
After the drive for universal education in the 1950s and ’60s made it possible for almost everyone in wealthy countries to attend high school and for many to go to university, further improvements in education levels were marginal.
Induveca wrote:AFM wrote:montestewart wrote:I can't really tell if you believe the conclusions you're posting or you're just trying to provoke responses, but it sure keeps the roundtable lively.
What happened to Nate?
I hope HRC didn't have him taken care of, like Seth Rich.
Induveca wrote:
One of 4 much hyped videos just released at noon. Damning undercover video, just as promised.
I’m saying we have mentally ill people, that we pay to do ****, make no mistake,” says Foval in the video. “Over the last twenty years, I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner, and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel, and a shower. And I put them in a program. Like I’ve done that. But the reality is, a lot of people especially our union guys. A lot of our union guys…they’ll do whatever you want. They’re rock and roll. When I need to get something done in Arkansas, the first guy I call is the head of the AFL-CIO down there, because he will say, ‘What do you need?’ And I will say, I need a guy who will do this, this and this. And they find that guy. And that guy will be like, Hell yeah, let’s do it.”
tontoz wrote:The silence is deafening.I’m saying we have mentally ill people, that we pay to do ****, make no mistake,” says Foval in the video. “Over the last twenty years, I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner, and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel, and a shower. And I put them in a program. Like I’ve done that. But the reality is, a lot of people especially our union guys. A lot of our union guys…they’ll do whatever you want. They’re rock and roll. When I need to get something done in Arkansas, the first guy I call is the head of the AFL-CIO down there, because he will say, ‘What do you need?’ And I will say, I need a guy who will do this, this and this. And they find that guy. And that guy will be like, Hell yeah, let’s do it.”
montestewart wrote:Apparently, everyone forgot who James O'Keefe is.
tontoz wrote:montestewart wrote:Apparently, everyone forgot who James O'Keefe is.
Do you think he paid Foval off to say the things he did? Or maybe kidnap his family to make him talk?
It isn't like doing interviews with random strangers.
Dat2U wrote:tontoz wrote:montestewart wrote:Apparently, everyone forgot who James O'Keefe is.
Do you think he paid Foval off to say the things he did? Or maybe kidnap his family to make him talk?
It isn't like doing interviews with random strangers.
Were talking about the same James O'Keefe that doctored video footage? The same dude that played a fake pimp in those hilarious ACORN videos. Were trusting this guy to provide evidence? Why not just post some articles from infowars.com while your at it?
Dat2U wrote:tontoz wrote:montestewart wrote:Apparently, everyone forgot who James O'Keefe is.
Do you think he paid Foval off to say the things he did? Or maybe kidnap his family to make him talk?
It isn't like doing interviews with random strangers.
Were talking about the same James O'Keefe that doctored video footage? The same dude that played a fake pimp in those hilarious ACORN videos. Were trusting this guy to provide evidence? Why not just post some articles from infowars.com while your at it?
tontoz wrote:Dat2U wrote:tontoz wrote:
Do you think he paid Foval off to say the things he did? Or maybe kidnap his family to make him talk?
It isn't like doing interviews with random strangers.
Were talking about the same James O'Keefe that doctored video footage? The same dude that played a fake pimp in those hilarious ACORN videos. Were trusting this guy to provide evidence? Why not just post some articles from infowars.com while your at it?
Do you think he put in a Foval costume to make this vid? Do you think he used one of those Mission Impossible masks? Pretending to be a pimp is pretty far removed from getting a public figure to admit breaking the law.
Okeefe has already been burned by his previous vids and had to pay out six figure fines. Making up a fraudulent vid of this scale would be suicidal.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
montestewart wrote:tontoz wrote:Dat2U wrote:
Were talking about the same James O'Keefe that doctored video footage? The same dude that played a fake pimp in those hilarious ACORN videos. Were trusting this guy to provide evidence? Why not just post some articles from infowars.com while your at it?
Do you think he put in a Foval costume to make this vid? Do you think he used one of those Mission Impossible masks? Pretending to be a pimp is pretty far removed from getting a public figure to admit breaking the law.
Okeefe has already been burned by his previous vids and had to pay out six figure fines. Making up a fraudulent vid of this scale would be suicidal.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Some broken clocks are just always too fast or too slow.
There's usually some truth in political propaganda pieces, but O'Keefe's pieces don't get any benefit of doubt. More will be revealed, but the potential explosiveness here is initially tempered by the messenger. Kind of like how Trump's "rigged" comments sound a lot like Clinton's "vast right wing conspiracy" comments from an earlier time. To be taken with a shaker of salt.
tontoz wrote:montestewart wrote:tontoz wrote:
Do you think he put in a Foval costume to make this vid? Do you think he used one of those Mission Impossible masks? Pretending to be a pimp is pretty far removed from getting a public figure to admit breaking the law.
Okeefe has already been burned by his previous vids and had to pay out six figure fines. Making up a fraudulent vid of this scale would be suicidal.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Some broken clocks are just always too fast or too slow.
There's usually some truth in political propaganda pieces, but O'Keefe's pieces don't get any benefit of doubt. More will be revealed, but the potential explosiveness here is initially tempered by the messenger. Kind of like how Trump's "rigged" comments sound a lot like Clinton's "vast right wing conspiracy" comments from an earlier time. To be taken with a shaker of salt.
After what the DNC did to Sanders they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt either. And Trump's "rigged" comments are a lot different from someone actually admitting to doing the rigging.
Trump's craziness doomed his campaign. I give him credit for taking his shot at the right time. The opportunity was there he just wasn't the right guy to take advantage of it.