LeMarcus Aldridge

Spider156 · Post #1 » by **Spider156** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:26 am

Yeah I'm not that guy to make a post about wiretap trade ideas just because a guy might become available but this time I put an exception because I really like Aldridge. I mean it'll be the best front court in the NBA and I actually believe we can get him. I'd give up at least Harris, Morris, 1st round pick and probably another player. Would you give up Ellenson too? Possibly yeah, because why not lol. What do you guys think?

DBC10 · Post #2 » by **DBC10** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:35 am

The whole reason why LMA is on the trading rumors right now is because of how fundamentally different he changed the Spurs' offensive philosophy. They went from the best ball movement team in history, to back to post ups and midrange ISOs to accommodate LMA's game.

I'm not sure if getting a out of prime LMA is good for this team. I really doubt LMA is the force that gets us over the Cavs with our offense being really bad right now. It'd be likely be exacerbated more with LMA here, plus we lose key young assets.

Shady_ · Post #3 » by **Shady_** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:44 am

A 31 year old player for a bunch of our young talented pieces and maybe wouldn't be a good fit next to Drummond?

Pass

Post #4 » by **Cowology** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:46 am

Nobody wanted him last year when he was a FA, nobody is gonna want him now that he's a year older. If we were talking 24 yr old LMA this would be a different conversation entirely, but his acquisition wouldn't push us past the Cavs and he will be well into his 30's by the time this team is hitting it's peak (hopefully).

I don't think Harris, Morris & a (late) 1st would get it done anyway.

Blkbrd671 · Post #5 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:48 am

DBC10 wrote:The whole reason why LMA is on the trading rumors right now is because of how fundamentally different he changed the Spurs' offensive philosophy. They went from the best ball movement team in history, to back to post ups and midrange ISOs to accommodate LMA's game.

I'm not sure if getting a out of prime LMA is good for this team. I really doubt LMA is the force that gets us over the Cavs with our offense being really bad right now. It'd be likely be exacerbated more with LMA here, plus we lose key young assets.

you guys assume that one of the if not the greatest coaches of all time can't convince LMA to adjust his game to a style that is more team oriented?

Also while i agree it maybe wise to cash our assets in for a superstar piece. I don't think LMA is that pieace in this offense. I'd much rather have Harris+Mook+1st round, and to be more specific, those players developing under SVG. While i think LMA is worth all 3, i think SVG can develop particularly Harris into a player just as good as LMA, Mook is a borderline allstar(based on one season), and SVG obviously knows how to draft no matter where we land. I just don't think we are ready to add that "sheed" piece yet.

I reserve the right to change my answer by the allstar break.

Spider156 · Post #6 » by **Spider156** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:14 am

Well I'm sure you guys understand that we simply have too much talent on the team now. I mean Ellenson is sitting as 5th big man? He's playing like a beast out there just knocking down shot after shot. Gbinije is 24, he looks great moving the ball and making long range shot. Bullock is solid, Hilliard is solid AND we have a Stanley freaking Johnson waiting for a chance to start. We've got a player that's gonna leave like Baynes, got KCP that's due to for a big contract. I mean there's a lot of talent and I really feel like this season will be huge for us to make a blockbuster trade. Aldridge is a great player next to Drummond, I mean think about it haha they compliment each other too well. Also, 31 isn't old, he's past his prime but when do you guys expect to contend? I say we contend ASAP and forget building for the future for a year or two. Considering how easy it seems for our front office to find talent, why not take a bite? I mean we'll be getting Aldridge lol not like it's Kevin Love...

Blkbrd671 · Post #7 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:33 am

Spider156 wrote:Well I'm sure you guys understand that we simply have too much talent on the team now. I mean Ellenson is sitting as 5th big man? He's playing like a beast out there just knocking down shot after shot. Gbinije is 24, he looks great moving the ball and making long range shot. Bullock is solid, Hilliard is solid AND we have a Stanley freaking Johnson waiting for a chance to start. We've got a player that's gonna leave like Baynes, got KCP that's due to for a big contract. I mean there's a lot of talent and I really feel like this season will be huge for us to make a blockbuster trade. Aldridge is a great player next to Drummond, I mean think about it haha they compliment each other too well. Also, 31 isn't old, he's past his prime but when do you guys expect to contend? I say we contend ASAP and forget building for the future for a year or two. Considering how easy it seems for our front office to find talent, why not take a bite? I mean we'll be getting Aldridge lol not like it's Kevin Love...

seems like we are putting all our chips into the pot way to prematurely. Its going to take more than 1 piece to make us contenders. While i am just as optimistic about our chances to contend, Talent doesn't always = More Wins.

I also don't put much stock into a preseason performance. I mean KCP in his Sophmore year had a phenomnal preseason but wasn't as efficient in the regular season. In the preseason, looks are cleaner, the scouting and prep is minimal, and very poor representation of what the Regular season will be.

I would rather wait to see what we look like in the first half of this season to see how close we really are to contending and if its evident we need that "sheed like piece", i'd pull the trigger on this. Also any trade having LMA coming in is going to require SJ.

sc8581 · Post #8 » by **sc8581** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:00 am

Harris and Stanley for LMA would be a good deal for both teams if Aldridge was locked up for more than just two more years. His style of play will translate well as he ages and his game is nearly a perfect fit with Drummond. We need a number one option badly, his game would complement Mook, Reggie, KCP and as I already mentioned Dre, big time. Ellenson could surely learn a lot from him, he could play opposite any of our other bigs, his length would be welcome for sure, the list goes on and on.

pistontr · Post #9 » by **pistontr** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:07 pm

he would be perfect for us offensively.

harris+kcp+johnson+first round for aldridge and green?

MotownMadness · Post #10 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:41 pm

I don't want to get rid of Harris he's probably going to be a 20ppg player this year as he just looks hungry and improved all over. I would do KCP, Mook and 1st.

SVG · Post #11 » by **SVG** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:02 pm

We'll have the best front court on paper, but he'll be like Monroe(I'm not saying they're on the same level) next to Drummond fit wise. He doesn't fit the 4 out 1 in scheme of Van Gundy's offense.

And like someone mention above, he's around 31 years old which makes no sense for us to trade all of our young prospects.

DBC10 · Post #12 » by **DBC10** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:05 pm

He certainly stretches the floor, but he's not necessarily a guy that is rapidly changing his game for this era of basketball. He loves to Isolate and they often go in which encourages the whole team to feed him. But it does bog down the offense.

I'd rather we keep our young guys tbh. Plus, Boston has way more assets than we do, and Spurs can basically rebuild/retool with Kawhi being their best player along with high picks + assets (Crowder?) from Boston.

Chances of us landing him are probably under 1%.

FLced · Post #13 » by **FLced** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:15 pm

Id rather SVG try to trade for Serge Ibaka. Ibaka would fit in Detroit perfectly at the PF position. He can space the floor, play defense and he's still young compared to LMA. Ibaka would be easily more affordable than LMA for Detroit, especially if they try to negotiate a new contract deal in the offseason.

The Penguin · Post #14 » by **The Penguin** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:19 pm

DBC10 wrote:He certainly stretches the floor, but he's not necessarily a guy that is rapidly changing his game for this era of basketball. He loves to Isolate and they often go in which encourages the whole team to feed him. But it does bog down the offense.

I'd rather we keep our young guys tbh. Plus, Boston has way more assets than we do, and Spurs can basically rebuild/retool with Kawhi being their best player along with high picks + assets (Crowder?) from Boston.

Chances of us landing him are probably under 1%.

Yes, Boston has way more young assets and a LMA sized hole in their front court next to Horford. The Knicks are the Knicks and may put Porzingis in play. I'm ok with consolidating some assets for a premium wing scorer, but LMA isn't the guy we need.

Manocad · Post #15 » by **Manocad** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:01 pm

Let me see if I have this right...trade away assets that may make the Pistons a true contender in 2-3 years for a guy who will not win us a championship now and will be on a further decline in 2-3 years? That makes sense how?

joedumars1 · Post #16 » by **joedumars1** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:11 pm

I figured a lot of people would want to do this. I'm glad it was the other way. The reasons why are explained already.

Manocad · Post #17 » by **Manocad** » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:24 pm

Yeah, outside of a few posters I think this board is pretty sensible. If you rate this current team as a 6 out of 10, I don't see how adding 3 while subtracting 3 makes sense, especially when the added 3 may become 2 or 1 and the subtracted 3 may become 4 or 5.

chrbal · Post #18 » by **chrbal** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:28 am

5 years ago, sure. I just don't think LaMarcus helps us that much. We'll have a great player, but I think it will mess up our balance.

tmorgan · Post #19 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:54 am

Pop is a genius and Kawhi is a stud, but I really don't think LMA is moving the needle much on San Antonio. He's a classic "good to very good" kind of player, able to score but only somewhat efficiently, able to defend but only somewhat effectively.

He's also a very iso-friendly player, sort of like a souped up (and taller) Marcus Morris. Those kind of guys will often stall an offense no matter how good they actually are, because they don't promote points in transition or off cuts, and can negatively affect the numbers of their teammates who don't feel involved. In short, wannabe stars that don't pass effectively can often be a net neutral or slight positive despite the gaudy numbers. See Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson, DeMarcus Cousins, and countless others.

Another way of looking at it -- "I can get mine" will keep you in the NBA and even make you a star, but it doesn't win titles.

Post #20 » by **Cowology** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:05 am

tmorgan wrote:Pop is a genius and Kawhi is a stud, but I really don't think LMA is moving the needle much on San Antonio. He's a classic "good to very good" kind of player, able to score but only somewhat efficiently, able to defend but only somewhat effectively.

He's also a very iso-friendly player, sort of like a souped up (and taller) Marcus Morris. Those kind of guys will often stall an offense no matter how good they actually are, because they don't promote points in transition or off cuts, and can negatively affect the numbers of their teammates who don't feel involved. In short, wannabe stars that don't pass effectively can often be a net neutral or slight positive despite the gaudy numbers. See Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson, DeMarcus Cousins, and countless others.

Another way of looking at it -- "I can get mine" will keep you in the NBA and even make you a star, but it doesn't win titles.

Did somebody say Adrian Dantley?