CJackson wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:CJackson wrote:
Bro, you have been devoid of original thought since you started posting on the thread.
You have provided less, not more, because you push pre-packaged mush and have yet to detail anything with your own words.
And now you say talking negative about Trump = what? Negativity? That's not an insight
One doesn't need original thought when Wiki leaks has done most of the work.
Just connect the dots.
And when will you stop being insultive? The very person you are against, you are a bit of a mini-ME of.
OK, I'm listening, but I still don't feel like you've ever done anything but post alarmist armaggeddon talk and pre-digested links. It is my nature to challenge that. You started posting in a panic. WW3 is here! That was your first impression in the thread so you seemed hysterical. I challenged you to explain. You didn't even try to explain anything, but post more links. No, Wikileaks is not a rebuttal. There will be no prosecutions coming from it, yet Trump is going to trial on December 16th for raping a 13 year old girl and still has Trump University among a mess of other legal battles in the pipeline and more suits coming after the election. So, no wikileaks is not effective code for you don't need to exert any effort to explain yourself.
Sorry, but this is combative turf. It is a definitely a war for the soul of the country. And you claim Trump is the way to counter the elite. I challenged this and you said nothing. What does that even mean? Do you have a plan, because Trump certainly doesn't?
That makes you my opposition and I will fight you on it. Yes, I belittled your contributions because you have not contributed anything other than alt-right links and you started posting really bad Breitbartian swill. Why should that cheap, lurid propaganda go unchallenged?
You really believe the crooked media and rigged election stuff, don't you? Well, the third debate is over now and your man Trump just made a mockery of all of this by failing to vow to honor the election results.
So you support that kind of talk? How about you step back from being offended for once and explain that much.
Do you support the rigged election talk and Trump's unwillingness to abide by democratic processes?
Yes I was tough. Is it OK for me to say you posted stuff from pigs without saying you are pig? Steven Bannon is a pig. Does that make you one because you are a willing propagator of his "media" propaganda?
I think you are probably not. I imagine you're a nice guy who doesn't wish anyone harm and you were genuinely having conniptions about the end of the world. I don't believe you see yourself in the light that I see Trump, yet thus far I oppose everything you have posted so there is a moral disconnect between us that goes beyond how we should talk about it.
I've offered plenty of actual content and counter-analysis. I addressed your concerns about the Middle East. You only want to talk about feelings though. I won't apologize for pushing you to talk about something of substance.
Sorry if I stepped on your toes, but if you believe Clinton is the devil, then I feel the same way about Trump. And you may fight supporters of an evil person differently than I do and I accept that. I don't believe you fight evil with bland niceties. I believe in firing on fire. I am not a Gandhian.
Almost every Trump supporter melts down and acts all pouty and emasculated when pushed to explain themselves. What have you shown that would make anyone see you differently? It is a pattern. So I don't want to have a personal grudge with you at all. But I do oppose what you propose which is a Trump presidency as if it is a solution for for what is wrong with America. So if you espouse nutty ideas don't act all surprised when you get it thrown back at you.
Trump couldn't write this in a million years. His depth is silly tweets. But thanks for the insult when you don't want to be insulted. If you still cannot answer anything without the crutch of your links and only want to talk about how to talk about things then we'll just have to let it go at that. You've had plenty of opportunities to account for your views.
Not sure I ever said WWIII is here, but I do feel if Hillary is elected she will continue to cause trouble with Russia. I don't have to worry about that with Trump, but I do worry about him going in Saudi Arabia.
Regarding Trump and the trial, let it happen, then judge. With Hillary, we have lots and lots of emails regarding collusion with the FBI, it is overwhelming. That worries me more, both are bad things of course, but the last thing I want is a president who goes out and starts wars for reasons outside of the truth.
For example, I find it worrying that Hillary was the force behind the Libya invasion, in light of me just finding out the following about Libya (before Hillary led invasion):
-Libya was creating a gold backed money, now they have a "new banking system" - one that is a part of the Western banking system.
-There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
-There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at zero percent interest by law.
-Having a home considered a human right in Libya.
-All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 dinar (U.S.$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
-Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25 percent of Libyans were literate. Today, the figure is 83 percent.
-Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kickstart their farms are all for free.
-If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need, the government funds them to go abroad, for it is not only paid for, but they get a U.S.$2,300/month for accommodation and car allowance.
-If a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidizes 50 percent of the price.
-The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
-Libya has no external debt and its reserves amounting to $150 billion are now frozen globally.
-If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession, as if he or she is employed, until employment is found.
-A portion of every Libyan oil sale is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
-A mother who gives birth to a child receive U.S.$5,000.
-40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $0.15.
-25 percent of Libyans have a university degree.
-Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Manmade River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
Trump is not an elite, no generations of corruption in politics. Not saying he is a good person. Again, lesser of two evils.
When Trump destroys a country with the promise Libya had, then let me know. Until then, I can buy he has done corrupt things in business and used the system to his advantage. Hillary's track record borders on the sick and there is a trail of 40 or so dead people behind her and her hubby.
There is no comparison of evil deeds between the two. That was clear before Wikileaks. Now we just have it in writing.
I think it's great for Trump to not honor the election results as we have all seen before, that it has been rigged in part. e.g. Bush and Florida. This system needs a deep cleaning.
