Koreen: Raptors abandoning Caboclo SF training. Shifting to PF?

Knucknbuc · Post #21 » by **Knucknbuc** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:19 am

He sucks. Who gives a ****? So now this bum gonna switch to the 4 where siakam plays (wasnt it just 2 weeks ago the same guy reported the raptors see siakam as their ffuture starting 4?) Lol lost cause.

Jonn · Post #22 » by **Jonn** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:21 am

Good because he has no chance playing the 3.

WCCC · Post #23 » by **WCCC** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:37 am

why does the article say "especially Capela"? Hood > Capela

This is make or break year for Bruno. Goals should be to have a consistent money jumper and play decent all-round D.

BetterCallSaul · Post #24 » by **BetterCallSaul** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:55 am

Called this before the start of last year

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DreamTeam09 · Post #25 » by **DreamTeam09** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:55 am

Well yeah he is a tweener 3/4. He was covering Gallo this preseason and I thought he did a pretty good job. I wouldn't mind seeing pascal and bruno on the court together. I'm a fan of his so i'm rooting for him.

cram · Post #26 » by **cram** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:17 am

WCCC wrote:why does the article say "especially Capela"? Hood > Capela

This is make or break year for Bruno. Goals should be to have a consistent money jumper and play decent all-round D.

Not sure why the writer emphasized that, but I thought most expected us to take Capela with that pick at the time....no?

Reef · Post #27 » by **Reef** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:21 am

He's too soft to play at PF.

hyper316 · Post #28 » by **hyper316** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:35 am

he's too slow and thin. failed project, time to move on

Brinbe · Post #29 » by **Brinbe** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:37 am

Guess it'll depend on the matchup... but Bruno should be flashing something soon. You can't wait around forever for someone that may be a bench mob guy at best.

Rapsfan07 · Post #30 » by **Rapsfan07** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:46 am

Rapcity_11 wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:Every time I see his name, I can't believe we choose this guy while Rodney Hood was still on the board. It's as if we didn't learn from the Ross over Drummond situation.

Then we went with Wright over Portis.

You know something, we've made it quite far for a team that's made so many blatant f*ckups. Had management actually used their brains and stop trying to outsmart themselves and overthink things, the sky might have been the limit for this squad. Smh

Portis and Wright are completely similar caliber players. Both project as solid bench guys. Complaining about that pick is hilarious.

Precisely. They are similar caliber players and if you and I can tell that, I'm sure Masai can as well. So why go with a PG on that pick who are a dime a dozen in the NBA AND plays the same position as your star when you have a gaping hole at PF? Instead, it made more sense to sign guys to 1 year deals and start Scola for most of the year?

If anything, THAT is the hilarious part.

Rapcity_11 · Post #31 » by **Rapcity_11** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:48 am

WCCC wrote:why does the article say "especially Capela"? Hood > Capela

Maybe right now. But that's mostly because Hood is 2 years older and came in more polished. Even with that, their per possession production was quite similar.

TdotRap4Lyfe · Post #32 » by **TdotRap4Lyfe** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:48 am

Dennis 37 wrote:
0 - 100 wrote:We are babying this guy just like Bargs. I do hope it works out.

He has been gifted zero starting minutes.

i believe we started him one game last season.

Rapcity_11 · Post #33 » by **Rapcity_11** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:50 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:Every time I see his name, I can't believe we choose this guy while Rodney Hood was still on the board. It's as if we didn't learn from the Ross over Drummond situation.

Then we went with Wright over Portis.

You know something, we've made it quite far for a team that's made so many blatant f*ckups. Had management actually used their brains and stop trying to outsmart themselves and overthink things, the sky might have been the limit for this squad. Smh

Portis and Wright are completely similar caliber players. Both project as solid bench guys. Complaining about that pick is hilarious.

Precisely. They are similar caliber players and if you and I can tell that, I'm sure Masai can as well. So why go with a PG on that pick who are a dime a dozen in the NBA AND plays the same position as your star when you have a gaping hole at PF? Instead, it made more sense to sign guys to 1 year deals and start Scola for most of the year?

If anything, THAT is the hilarious part.

Because the Raptors had a clear need at backup PG? Energy bigs who are weak defensively are a dime a dozen as well (which is what Portis projects as). It was a toss-up at the time, that's the reality.

Rapsfan07 · Post #34 » by **Rapsfan07** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:59 am

Rapcity_11 wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Portis and Wright are completely similar caliber players. Both project as solid bench guys. Complaining about that pick is hilarious.

Precisely. They are similar caliber players and if you and I can tell that, I'm sure Masai can as well. So why go with a PG on that pick who are a dime a dozen in the NBA AND plays the same position as your star when you have a gaping hole at PF? Instead, it made more sense to sign guys to 1 year deals and start Scola for most of the year?

If anything, THAT is the hilarious part.

Because the Raptors had a clear need at backup PG? Energy bigs who are weak defensively are a dime a dozen as well (which is what Portis projects as). It was a toss-up at the time, that's the reality.

Yea but we could have easily signed a PG (which we actually ended up doing anyways). At least Portis can rebound and shoot the 3 and he'd at least play some meaningful minutes which hasnt and won't happen because of Lowry.

Picking Wright just didn't make any sense, no matter how you attempt to spin it.

Rapcity_11 · Post #35 » by **Rapcity_11** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:05 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
Precisely. They are similar caliber players and if you and I can tell that, I'm sure Masai can as well. So why go with a PG on that pick who are a dime a dozen in the NBA AND plays the same position as your star when you have a gaping hole at PF? Instead, it made more sense to sign guys to 1 year deals and start Scola for most of the year?

If anything, THAT is the hilarious part.

Because the Raptors had a clear need at backup PG? Energy bigs who are weak defensively are a dime a dozen as well (which is what Portis projects as). It was a toss-up at the time, that's the reality.

Yea but we could have easily signed a PG (which we actually ended up doing anyways). At least Portis can rebound and shoot the 3 and he'd at least play some meaningful minutes which hasnt and won't happen because of Lowry.

Picking Wright just didn't make any sense, no matter how you attempt to spin it.

Portis wouldn't have contributed a lick last year, just like almost all rookies.

He made 16 3's on 31%. He can't shoot 3's. He is a good offensive rebounder, but the Raptors scheme has PF's getting back on D instead of crashing.

The Raptors also could have easily signed an energy big instead of Joseph.

The pick was fine at the time, and remains fine.

YogurtProducer · Post #36 » by **YogurtProducer** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:08 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
Precisely. They are similar caliber players and if you and I can tell that, I'm sure Masai can as well. So why go with a PG on that pick who are a dime a dozen in the NBA AND plays the same position as your star when you have a gaping hole at PF? Instead, it made more sense to sign guys to 1 year deals and start Scola for most of the year?

If anything, THAT is the hilarious part.

Because the Raptors had a clear need at backup PG? Energy bigs who are weak defensively are a dime a dozen as well (which is what Portis projects as). It was a toss-up at the time, that's the reality.

Yea but we could have easily signed a PG (which we actually ended up doing anyways). At least Portis can rebound and shoot the 3 and he'd at least play some meaningful minutes which hasnt and won't happen because of Lowry.

Picking Wright just didn't make any sense, no matter how you attempt to spin it.

Portia sucks man. Like he is pretty awful.

We haven't had blatant **** ups either. If Hood and Portia were such can't miss prospects they wouldn't be going like 23rd in the draft. Wright was a great pick who kind of got the short end of the stick when we signed Cory jo which we could not of foreseen. Wright will be better then Portis though once he finds minutes I can guarantee you that.

deeps6x · Post #37 » by **deeps6x** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:25 am

cram wrote:
WCCC wrote:why does the article say "especially Capela"? Hood > Capela

This is make or break year for Bruno. Goals should be to have a consistent money jumper and play decent all-round D.

Not sure why the writer emphasized that, but I thought most expected us to take Capela with that pick at the time....no?

I had Capela ahead of Hood on my list at the time. Obviously I was wrong. Not as wrong as Masai though. Even Capela has turned out to be a better pick than Caboclo. But they are all still young. I hope Bruno eventually does become the best player of the three.

cram · Post #38 » by **cram** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:57 am

Reality is, 2 years away from being 2 yrs away probably wasn't that crazy.

(if he ever makes it at all)

Scott Hall · Post #39 » by **Scott Hall** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:08 am

Bankai wrote:I almost spit out my drink when I read "Koreen: Raptors abandoning Caboclo..."

I'm disappointed the thread tittle kept going on after that part

BismackonLebron · Post #40 » by **BismackonLebron** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:09 am

BetterCallSaul wrote:Called this before the start of last year

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How did it take a professional NBA franchise 3 years to realize this? I suggested he was a 4 a few days after we drafted him. He never had the foot speed to guard the 3 or the handles and speed/athletic ability to drive by nba 3 men. It's the reason all he does is jack 3's on offense, he's too slow to drive by any wing players.

As I said before he will be a stretch 4. He's not shown any big man skills at all yet, so hopefully it's not too late to groom his this way. I fear he will be a very soft player that doesn't rebound or play physical.

Anyways it's good that they've figured this out it's just a shame it took them this long.