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Post#181 » by yosemiteben » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:52 pm

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bws94 wrote: However, the key player Kemba was iron man logging in big minutes. This season, he's coming off of knee surgery.

He was last season too, he missed a month post-ASB (hence our trade for Mo Williams) due to knee surgery and shut it down in April after coming back and playing pretty poorly and it was clear we were missing the playoffs.


I think you're referring to the season before last season. The team needs Kemba, and although he's not 100 percent yet, he looks ok.

He had knee surgery in February 2015 and May 2016.
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#182 » by euphorbus » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:02 pm

So does that mean there is still one roster spot open, or does it go to Wood?
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Post#183 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:10 pm

euphorbus wrote:So does that mean there is still one roster spot open, or does it go to Wood?

We gave Wood a guaranteed contract, he's on the team. Graham and Harrison get us to 15.

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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#184 » by Mystical Apples » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:09 pm

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Mystical Apples wrote:Some of the pessimism surrounding the Hornets kinda blows me away.


I would be a lot more optimistic if the team were shooting better, and if they seemed well organized on the court.


Shooting % is the least reliable preseason stat and that's saying a ton

Right now, the only player who has been impressive is Jeremy Lamb--the guy the front office tried to trade all summer.


I agree Lamb was encouraging. I'm actually higher on his defensive potential than offense and have been since last season. That said, attackers generally do well against disconnected preseason defenses, particularly high-level finishers like Lamb going against disconnected 2nd and 3rd units. Just to highlight the folly in extrapolating preseason FG% without context:

Lamb < 8ft: 77%
Lamb > 16ft: 24% (all shots)
Lamb 3P: 20%

I don't think Lamb's distance shooting was abyssal, nor are the conditions sustainable that netted 77% at the rim.


When the season gets underway, just watch who sets screens, who is effective at it, who passes the ball, and whether the connection is made at the other end.


I think you're focusing a little too heavily on the trees. While important, screens are more nuanced than the physical act of jamming an opponent. Slips, rolls, distance, pops, handoffs, re-screens, post on switches.....all are various options on the decision-tree with the ultimate goal of creating space by moving the defense.

For example a "great screen" kinda sucks if the screener should've slipped. Or if the defender sinks because they don't respect the roller.
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#185 » by fatlever » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:30 pm

Lots of generic content from the Observer today.

Meet the Charlotte Hornets
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109933787.html

A stab at predicting the NBA’s major postseason awards
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109916427.html

Handicapping the NBA Eastern Conference
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109912212.html
Bonnell picks the Heat to finish 6th - ahead of the Hornets, Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, Wizard and Bucks. Wow. He does realize that Wade, Bosh, Deng and Johnson are gone, right? Riley probably isn't even wanting to win games this year. He'd probably make a midseason trade to kill momentum if it looked like the Heat might sneak into the playoffs. He's trying to rebuild.

10 storylines as the NBA season commences
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109892287.html
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#186 » by HornetJail » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:24 pm

bonnell is a dumbass
investigate Adam Silver
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#187 » by yosemiteben » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:43 pm

HornetsGIFs ‏@HornetsGIFs 24m24 minutes ago
I'm probably in the minority on this, but as a SF, I would rather have PJ back over "developing" Harrison.

Thoughts on this take? Who would agree?

I don't feel strongly about AirHarr. He turns 22 this week, so he's still got some development potential. I can see what the goal is in terms of his upside - he's got good size and is a hard worker, has a decent handle and decent vision, and we seem to have a goal of turning him into a playmaking / facilitating wing that can D up. He needs to develop a jumper though, to me his biggest problem is that he has not shown the ability to generate offense and he doesn't have close to elite D.

I'm pretty agnostic - I'm not upset that we're holding on to him, but I'm also not going to be disappointed if we go another direction.
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#188 » by fatlever » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:20 pm

I had the same opinion in the other thread. PJ, at least can get hot from 3. Seems to at least provide the thread of a 3pt shot which needs to be respected, and is probably a better defender + he has more experience. But, personality and character have to be considered in end-of-bench guys.

If we wanted a vet, we could take a look at Rasual Butler.
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#189 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:05 pm

I don't want PJ back on this team. I would rather give someone else a shot if it came to that.
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#190 » by fatlever » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:31 pm

Interview with Clifford

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"Frank Kaminsky is questionable for Wednesday. Cody Zeller practiced today, he's day to day."
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"MKG has worked hard this offseason and he's ready to have a big year. He's added to his game and worked on his weaknesses."
-Clifford


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"It was taxing on Nic Batum defensively at the end of the year. It will lighten his load defensively with MKG out there."
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Re: Hornets 2016-17 Preseason 

Post#191 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:08 pm

fatlever wrote:Lots of generic content from the Observer today.

Meet the Charlotte Hornets
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109933787.html

A stab at predicting the NBA’s major postseason awards
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109916427.html

Handicapping the NBA Eastern Conference
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109912212.html
Bonnell picks the Heat to finish 6th - ahead of the Hornets, Bulls, Pistons, Knicks, Wizard and Bucks. Wow. He does realize that Wade, Bosh, Deng and Johnson are gone, right? Riley probably isn't even wanting to win games this year. He'd probably make a midseason trade to kill momentum if it looked like the Heat might sneak into the playoffs. He's trying to rebuild.

10 storylines as the NBA season commences
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article109892287.html


Oh my god. It's actually so generic that it reads like articles from a website's Simple English section.

Tom Thibodeau: One of the NBA’s great defensive minds, Thibodeau has a driven work ethic. He inherits a great young roster in Minneapolis.
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