So how about Joel Embiid

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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#421 » by lilswift01 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:35 pm

Shaq is a top 3 freak of nature in nba history. Only matched by Wilt and maybe Lebron. Too fast and too strong. Embid has great physical traits but i wouldnt consider him a freak of nature.
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Post#422 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:15 pm

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Misteclipse wrote:Duke and Warriors fan. Pretty likely he's only casually watched basketball for 3 years tops. I recall seeing him talking down Simmons in every Simmons thread that came around as well. Casual fans are the ones that hate tanking the most so not surprising.

Fans get excited about their young talents. Especially ones with elite skillsets. That's what fans do. I personally hate comparing players to other players, especially all time greats, but that doesn't change the fact that Embiid is an elite talent.

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Yes by talking down Simmons you mean how I've stated over and over again I think he's going to make multiple all star teams? I've been called a Simmons hater because I don't think he's going to be the next Lebron or a top 5 player. I think he's going to be a really good all star caliber player. I've said that multiple times and I've been called a Simmons hater haha.


bull. You were on our board pretty heavy pumping up Ingram.


That is not bull. That is exactly what Ive said about Simmons going on over a year now. And yes I said I wouldve taken Ingram #1, I also said I didnt love Ingram and thought he also was going to be a multiple all star but not a franchise guy. I thought the draft last year was very weak
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#423 » by Unbreakable99 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:24 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Let me get this straight, a guy that hasn't even played a second of NBA basketball, people are saying he has a greater skillset than Shaq and has the potential to be the best center of all time.

This is like people watching Ben Simmons in SL and saying he's a better passer than Lebron or Magic.


I mean that's the thing about potential....not everyone lives up to theirs.

also why are people policing how excited Sixers fans are allowed to be about their prospects. Quit raining on the parades of people.

especially since yours is based off of your Duke agenda


My post had nothing to do with Duke or even a Duke player. As 6ers fans you can get as excited about a prospect as you'd like. But this is the General Board, so you can't get upset that other fans thinks it's funny when people claim their prospects as already being a better passer than Magic or Lebron, or their center to having potential to be the greatest of all time and already having a better skillset than Shaq, even though both have yet to play a minute of NBA basketball.


So let me get this straight. Back in 2003 it was foolish of pundits and fans to say LeBron was the greatest High School prospect ever and could possibly be one of the greatest NBA players ever? So all those people who expected LeBron to dominate in the NBA before he even played a game were crazy?
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#424 » by lorak » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:30 am

Joel Embiid is legit :)

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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#425 » by Wonderllama » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:55 am

He had two years to practice the Dream Shake... if he couldn't pull it off, I'd call him a complete bust
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#426 » by 90sgoat » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:02 am

He's trying to do too much atm, needs to play simple and let the ball find him.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#427 » by HeartBreakKid » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:16 am

He looks good out there. I mean he wasn't playing winning basketball per say given his defensive laps against Steven Adams, missing some shots, also dribbled a bit too much in the open floor - but he showed potential on most of his mistakes, you can tell it's his first game.

Steven Adams is a rough assignment to deal with also, even in his young career, his post moves would work against most other centers I would think.
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Post#428 » by CoreyGallagher » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:18 am

HeartBreakKid wrote:He looks good out there. I mean he wasn't playing winning basketball per say given his defensive laps against Steven Adams, missing some shots, also dribbled a bit too much in the open floor - but he showed potential on most of his mistakes, you can tell it's his first game.

Steven Adams is a rough assignment to deal with also, even in his young career, his post moves would work against most other centers I would think.

Those times Adams got open drives and dunks they were trying to double team Westbrook at top of key and nobody rotated into the paint, it happened when Holmes checked in as well on the very next play.

Just to clarify what those were.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#429 » by HeartBreakKid » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:22 am

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HeartBreakKid wrote:He looks good out there. I mean he wasn't playing winning basketball per say given his defensive laps against Steven Adams, missing some shots, also dribbled a bit too much in the open floor - but he showed potential on most of his mistakes, you can tell it's his first game.

Steven Adams is a rough assignment to deal with also, even in his young career, his post moves would work against most other centers I would think.

Those times Adams got open drives and dunks they were trying to double team Westbrook at top of key and nobody rotated into the paint, it happened when Holmes checked in as well on the very next play.

Just to clarify what those were.


Yes, but he still should not have left the lane that quickly though (even if a rotation came, Adams would have gotten and 1 with that much momentum), that's just a lack of experience. I agree, on a better team, there would have been a rotation.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#430 » by Marcus » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:28 am

90sgoat wrote:He's trying to do too much atm, needs to play simple and let the ball find him.


Yeah something he was doing all pre-season too. Too excited to play after being out for so long.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#431 » by lorak » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:29 am

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Yes, but he still should not have left the lane that quickly though.


Well, I'm not sure, it depends on team defensive strategy and generally in such situation someone (else than Joel or Westbrok defender) should help and step into the paint. Anyway, even if it is his mistake, then it's good sign, because he leaves paint without hesitation to help on defense - unlike some ATG bigs ;)
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#432 » by 90sgoat » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:32 am

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90sgoat wrote:He's trying to do too much atm, needs to play simple and let the ball find him.


Yeah something he was doing all pre-season too. Too excited to play after being out for so long.


Looks more like a high schooler who is the clear best player than a diciplined pro. It is interesting to watch him, confidence through the roof, has seemingly endless moves, but he really needs some dicipline and coaching.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#433 » by 90sgoat » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:34 am

HeartBreakKid wrote:He looks good out there. I mean he wasn't playing winning basketball per say given his defensive laps against Steven Adams, missing some shots, also dribbled a bit too much in the open floor - but he showed potential on most of his mistakes, you can tell it's his first game.

Steven Adams is a rough assignment to deal with also, even in his young career, his post moves would work against most other centers I would think.


Adams is a monster. Strongest guy in the league, not an easy first task.
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Post#434 » by CoreyGallagher » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:35 am

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90sgoat wrote:He's trying to do too much atm, needs to play simple and let the ball find him.


Yeah something he was doing all pre-season too. Too excited to play after being out for so long.


Looks more like a high schooler who is the clear best player than a diciplined pro. It is interesting to watch him, confidence through the roof, has seemingly endless moves, but he really needs some dicipline and coaching.

Yeah, he's holding on to it too long and gets tunnel vision when he's looking to score. Not a great debut imo, but has shown flashes and enough for our fans to get excited about.
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Post#435 » by 90sgoat » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:38 am

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Yeah something he was doing all pre-season too. Too excited to play after being out for so long.


Looks more like a high schooler who is the clear best player than a diciplined pro. It is interesting to watch him, confidence through the roof, has seemingly endless moves, but he really needs some dicipline and coaching.

Yeah, he's holding on to it too long and gets tunnel vision when he's looking to score. Has shown flashes, but not a great debut, but has shown enough for us fans to get excited about.


I'm excited because I see bball IQ and creativity that doesn't come around often, but if he had played on a team and during a time with more coach dicipline he'd be benched long ago. Is it confidence, eagerness or is it arrogance?
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#436 » by Marcus » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:42 am

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Yeah something he was doing all pre-season too. Too excited to play after being out for so long.


Looks more like a high schooler who is the clear best player than a diciplined pro. It is interesting to watch him, confidence through the roof, has seemingly endless moves, but he really needs some dicipline and coaching.

Yeah, he's holding on to it too long and gets tunnel vision when he's looking to score. Not a great debut imo, but has shown flashes and enough for our fans to get excited about.


Even at Kansas my favorite thing about "The Process" was his ability to learn and adjust on the fly. I have no doubt he'll do the same here in the league with time. Few more wrinkles to see at this level so it won't be as fast but it will happen. Feel fairly confident you won't see him have consecutive bad games against the same team and if the schemes and blueprint on how to play Jo start looking the same around the league it will happen even quicker.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#437 » by Marcus » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:44 am

90sgoat wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
90sgoat wrote:
Looks more like a high schooler who is the clear best player than a diciplined pro. It is interesting to watch him, confidence through the roof, has seemingly endless moves, but he really needs some dicipline and coaching.

Yeah, he's holding on to it too long and gets tunnel vision when he's looking to score. Has shown flashes, but not a great debut, but has shown enough for us fans to get excited about.


I'm excited because I see bball IQ and creativity that doesn't come around often, but if he had played on a team and during a time with more coach dicipline he'd be benched long ago. Is it confidence, eagerness or is it arrogance?


Confidence in his potential to be the best big in the game and eagerness to show the league.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#438 » by Brauer » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:23 am

What do you guys think about his insistance with playing faceup rather than back to the basket?
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Post#439 » by Marcus » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:32 am

Brauer wrote:What do you guys think about his insistance with playing faceup rather than back to the basket?


Might be his attempt at adjusting to the double teams. Right now he doesn't see them when he's back to the basket. Faceup and survey and then go.
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Re: So How about Joel Embiid 

Post#440 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:38 am

embiid is nice, but man jahlil okafor's talent is being wasted on the bench....sixers need to move him for a future 1st or another young player

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