Harrison Barnes Preseason Stats.

[Hindenburg]

Was reading online that Otto Porter has pretty much identical stats to Barnes.

He will get paid big time soon. This is a new league now.

[DonaldSanders]

Mavs maxed out a guy that should have had DNP's through the last 3-4 finals games.

Oops! Biiiig mistake. As a Warriors fan seeing someone besides us take him away from Kerr was the greatest moment of my life. We will win the championship next year just by NOT having Barnes on the court. Barnes and Kerr for playing him blew the championship

BARNES IS TRASH!!!!! GOOD RIDDANCE.

THANK GOD HE IS GONE!!!! FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST!!!!!

[HotelVitale]

I have a feeling he might put up Trevor Ariza stats during his first season with the Rockets.
Ariza's season stats from 2009-2010 season: 14.9ppg, 5.8rpg, 3.8apg in 36.5 mpg on 39% shooting overall and 33-34% from beyond the arc. It was clear after a few weeks that Ariza just isn't the type of player that should be your first option on offense, nor did he have the ability. Barnes really reminds me a little of Ariza in terms of context.

If Barnes could put up Ariza stats that would be absolute best case. Not sure why GMs couldn't see how bad the guy is on the court, his deal is absurd. Great guy though so I'm happy for him.

I doubt Barnes is putting up 4 dimes, but I don't think it would be anything big for him to post 15ppg. He could get that just by hanging in the corner and shooting 3s and one-dribble pull-ups.

My guess is he'll be around 15/5/2.5, with about 54% TS% (league average-ish). Not bad, but I also don't think he'll show the ability to do much more than he did in GSW.

[JJ_PR]

The same drop off in stats would happen for Green if he was moved to another team. Barnes and Green are average players who benefited from the Warriors system + two excellent shooters at the guard positions.

Your reasoning is flawed. Barnes couldn't produce as the fourth option, missing wide open jumpers consistently. He just flat out sucks. Green is the exact opposite of Barnes. While Green ain't a superstar, he's one of the big reasons why the Warriors have been so successful, in spite of Barnes.

[Nowak008]

Bovada right now has Barns season average at 15 points a game. I am trying to fight every bit of my being to not bet my entire life savings on the under. Free money.

[Impuniti]

The same drop off in stats would happen for Green if he was moved to another team. Barnes and Green are average players who benefited from the Warriors system + two excellent shooters at the guard positions.

Your reasoning is flawed. Barnes couldn't produce as the fourth option, missing wide open jumpers consistently. He just flat out sucks. Green is the exact opposite of Barnes. While Green ain't a superstar, he's one of the big reasons why the Warriors have been so successful, in spite of Barnes.

I have to give him credit, it's impressive to be so wrong in so few words but he did it. You could tell who were the ballers in the team were once Steph went down, where Dray and Klay stepped up while Barnes continued to be mediocre to disappointing. Dude also had one of the best game 7s in an NBA final.

Mavs maxed out a guy that should have had DNP's through the last 3-4 finals games.

Oops! Biiiig mistake. As a Warriors fan seeing someone besides us take him away from Kerr was the greatest moment of my life. We will win the championship next year just by NOT having Barnes on the court. Barnes and Kerr for playing him blew the championship

BARNES IS TRASH!!!!! GOOD RIDDANCE.

THANK GOD HE IS GONE!!!! FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST!!!!!

Sad part is that had Rush played over Barnes in game 7, the Warriors would have won. I didn't even think about this until I read your post.

[NeoWarriors]

I don't want to trash Barnes because he seems like a good kid. But him turning down that 16 million dollar offer set in motion the greatest free agency signing in our franchise history. Everybody knows Cuban gave him that huge contract offer hoping the Warriors would match and handcuff our salary cap for the next 4 years. I really hope he finds some success... just glad it's with someone else.

[jbk1234]

I don't want to trash Barnes because he seems like a good kid. But him turning down that 16 million dollar offer set in motion the greatest free agency signing in our franchise history. Everybody knows Cuban gave him that huge contract offer hoping the Warriors would match and handcuff our salary cap for the next 4 years. I really hope he finds some success... just glad it's with someone else.

I don't think Cuban's that dumb. Once Durant committed, it was game over on matching.

[NeoWarriors]

I don't want to trash Barnes because he seems like a good kid. But him turning down that 16 million dollar offer set in motion the greatest free agency signing in our franchise history. Everybody knows Cuban gave him that huge contract offer hoping the Warriors would match and handcuff our salary cap for the next 4 years. I really hope he finds some success... just glad it's with someone else.

I don't think Cuban's that dumb. Once Durant committed, it was game over on matching.

Of course once Durant committed it was game over on the match, but he was hedging in hopes that Durant would go back to OKC and the Warriors would have to match or lose Barnes.

[jbk1234]

I don't want to trash Barnes because he seems like a good kid. But him turning down that 16 million dollar offer set in motion the greatest free agency signing in our franchise history. Everybody knows Cuban gave him that huge contract offer hoping the Warriors would match and handcuff our salary cap for the next 4 years. I really hope he finds some success... just glad it's with someone else.

I don't think Cuban's that dumb. Once Durant committed, it was game over on matching.

Of course once Durant committed it was game over on the match, but he was hedging in hopes that Durant would go back to OKC and the Warriors would have to match or lose Barnes.

I cant' imagine that GS would have matched Barnes at that salary even if Durant returned home. They'd have the same salary issues they have now only with Barnes instead of Durant.

[NeoWarriors]

I don't think Cuban's that dumb. Once Durant committed, it was game over on matching.

Of course once Durant committed it was game over on the match, but he was hedging in hopes that Durant would go back to OKC and the Warriors would have to match or lose Barnes.

I cant' imagine that GS would have matched Barnes at that salary even if Durant returned home. They'd have the same salary issues they have now only with Barnes instead of Durant.

But we wouldn't be breaking up a 73 win team if we matched... that's what I think Cuban's thought process was. I don't really think he wanted Barnes at that price... he wasn't bidding against anyone.

[dc]

I don't want to trash Barnes because he seems like a good kid. But him turning down that 16 million dollar offer set in motion the greatest free agency signing in our franchise history. Everybody knows Cuban gave him that huge contract offer hoping the Warriors would match and handcuff our salary cap for the next 4 years. I really hope he finds some success... just glad it's with someone else.

Ehhh, Barnes at $16M a year would've been pretty easy to pawn off this past summer for cap space, given the type of money that was being thrown around. Might've even netted back a pick. He was wise to turn that deal down because now he's getting significantly more money and he got to choose where to go. He was smart.

Cuban signed Barnes because he had the cap space and he struck out on other FAs. He was thinking of his own team, not the Warriors, when he signed Barnes.

[ILOVEIT]

I don't want to trash Barnes because he seems like a good kid. But him turning down that 16 million dollar offer set in motion the greatest free agency signing in our franchise history. Everybody knows Cuban gave him that huge contract offer hoping the Warriors would match and handcuff our salary cap for the next 4 years. I really hope he finds some success... just glad it's with someone else.

Warrior fan...and...I think many of us saw this coming.

Harrison Barnes has, in 4 years, had probably a dozen games where he looked like a starter who could take over a game.

The entire rest of his time in GS...looked like he wasn't great at anything OTHER...in all fairness...a very good back to the basket game. He's never shown the ability to take people off the dribble....dribble in traffic....shoot from three...with any consistency.

Wish him and Dallas luck...but most of us Warrior fans saw this coming...

[Soupman]

We always overpay for role players.

What is new?

Just wait til the trade deadline for people shopping players.

[Raptor_Guy]

See my sig.

[jonjames]

whats with all the hate on barnes? ppl are jumping the gun way too early on barnes its only preseason, first off hes a good kid with high character, a decent role player with team 1st mentality but with right development has potential to be fringe all-star maybe even all star. ive seen players from past get much worse contracts than this before (gilbert arenas, allan houston, eddy curry, jerome james etc) and they never received this much flack. barnes has now eclipsed mcw and evan turner as the most trashed on player on rgm.

[RGM_SU]

So... he just hit as many threes (and half as many FGs) in a single regular season game as in seven preseason games.

Sad part is that had Rush played over Barnes in game 7, the Warriors would have won. I didn't even think about this until I read your post.

The Warriors would have also won if Curry and Thompson shot better than 12-36 including 6-24 from three...

[Bertrob]

he had a good 2nd half today. but the pacers disrespected him so much they left him wide open for the OT sending shot.

[RGM_SU]

he had a good 2nd half today. but the pacers disrespected him so much they left him wide open for the OT sending shot.

This is something called the Dirk-effect. The pick-and-pop run with him leads to such results. If the man guarding Barnes had not rotated to Dirk he would've had an open shot. Had nothing to do with the Pacers disrespecting him by leaving him open.

[Impuniti]

So... he just hit as many threes (and half as many FGs) in a single regular season game as in seven preseason games.

Sad part is that had Rush played over Barnes in game 7, the Warriors would have won. I didn't even think about this until I read your post.

The Warriors would have also won if Curry and Thompson shot better than 12-36 including 6-24 from three...

Of course they would have, neither showed up in the final that I expected. They weren't completely wide open like he was the entire series shooting at 15% however.