Thunder 2017 Projected Max Calculator

Post #1 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:23 pm

Hello all,

I threw together a quick and dirty spreadsheet for projecting whether we can fit a max salary next year. Might work as a good framework to slot numbers in for possible trade ideas, who might be on the roster in the future, etc.

Cap holds based on what little has leaked about the new CBA are projected for 2017. If you have any questions ask away. Or if you see any mistakes.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P7fjUIXc6-Tf2jxLdk6oht_fjaYQ0APgL5afC42fztg/edit?usp=sharing

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spearsy23 · Post #2 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:49 pm

Oladipo's cap hold is 16 million? Are we really getting **** by the new CBA as well?

Pillendreher · Post #3 » by **Pillendreher** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:53 pm

Do we even know if the new CBA would impact cap holds?

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Post #4 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:55 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Do we even know if the new CBA would impact cap holds?

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Best estimate I've seen is that the cap holds for 4-year Bird rights guys coming off rookie contracts is going to go up from 200 and 250% to 250 and 300%.

Dipo thankfully is slightly over the average salary this year, so his cap hold falls under the lower increase. But going from 12 to 16 mil hurts.

Pick cap holds and rookie contracts are also supposed to go up, as are exceptions (but that wouldn't help as far as max space, since we'd have to renounce them to get the cap space).

Post #5 » by **bondom34** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:04 pm

So basically there's no realistic max slot unless they move Kanter, drop Ersan, and lose Dipo.

spearsy23 · Post #6 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:10 am

bondom34 wrote:So basically there's no realistic max slot unless they move Kanter, drop Ersan, and lose Dipo.

Sign and trade?

Post #7 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:28 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:So basically there's no realistic max slot unless they move Kanter, drop Ersan, and lose Dipo.

Sign and trade?

Team receiving the player is hard capped at the apron (the point $4mil over the tax line). Might be possible, but the numbers are tight if Steven and Vic get paid anything close to what they're worth, and you're pretty much going full Clips to try to fill out your bench.

Pillendreher · Post #8 » by **Pillendreher** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:53 am

dbrandon wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Do we even know if the new CBA would impact cap holds?

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Best estimate I've seen is that the cap holds for 4-year Bird rights guys coming off rookie contracts is going to go up from 200 and 250% to 250 and 300%.

Dipo thankfully is slightly over the average salary this year, so his cap hold falls under the lower increase. But going from 12 to 16 mil hurts.

Pick cap holds and rookie contracts are also supposed to go up, as are exceptions (but that wouldn't help as far as max space, since we'd have to renounce them to get the cap space).

Yeah I know but I wanna know if the next CBA would already impact the 2017 offseason. At some point, you can't just change important mechanisms like capholds just like that even though teams might have been planning with the current mechanism for years now. You have to give teams time to adjust, not just pull the rug from under them.

This leave us **** at the hand of the CBA the 4th or 5th time.

Post #9 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:03 am

Pillendreher wrote:
dbrandon wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Do we even know if the new CBA would impact cap holds?

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Best estimate I've seen is that the cap holds for 4-year Bird rights guys coming off rookie contracts is going to go up from 200 and 250% to 250 and 300%.

Dipo thankfully is slightly over the average salary this year, so his cap hold falls under the lower increase. But going from 12 to 16 mil hurts.

Pick cap holds and rookie contracts are also supposed to go up, as are exceptions (but that wouldn't help as far as max space, since we'd have to renounce them to get the cap space).

Yeah I know but I wanna know if the next CBA would already impact the 2017 offseason. At some point, you can't just change important mechanisms like capholds just like that even though teams might have been planning with the current mechanism for years now. You have to give teams time to adjust, not just pull the rug from under them.

This leave us **** at the hand of the CBA the 4th or 5th time.

It does impact it.

And this is honestly better than it's been in years past, when it's been a lockout, they miss half the season and still jump straight into the new season with a whole new set of rules. Teams plan as far ahead as they can (and I'm betting they're hearing more about what's coming down the pike than we are), but the CBA changing has always been a wild card.

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Kizz Fastfists · Post #10 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue Nov 1, 2016 12:01 am

It doesn't matter. They just extended Dipo and Adams. No max player. The team is what it is. OKC is now stuck in purgatory. Maybe Presti's plan to get them locked up now gets Russ moved at the deadline for some good picks then Dipo on draft day and he goes hardcore rebuild. It's rebuild or purgatory and I'd much rather have the rebuild.

spearsy23 · Post #11 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Nov 1, 2016 12:04 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:It doesn't matter. They just extended Dipo and Adams. No max player. The team is what it is. OKC is now stuck in purgatory. Maybe Presti's plan to get them locked up now gets Russ moved at the deadline for some good picks then Dipo on draft day and he goes hardcore rebuild. It's rebuild or purgatory and I'd much rather have the rebuild.