GT: Spurs vs. Kings

[Nolan]

Two straight games of both Parker and Gasol at -13 plus minus.

Kawhi godlike right now.

Anderson looking out of his depth and yet again hurting the team because he simply isn't a threat (and doesn't even try to pretend he is) on offense.

Dedmon a nice surprise too, hustle and energy we haven't had in his position for a while.

I like Anderson more than most people do but I also agree with you. He needs to hoist up a few more shots to keep the defense honest. He's just too much of a PG at times.

I've liked what I've seen from this year outside of that issue though. He's been beasting on the boards, his defense has been sneaky good and his passing and vision are still unreal.

[Frankie23]

TP is holding the ball too much and Spurs play 1 on 1 game when he's on the court. That's why he's -13. I remember the time where his jumper was money, but not anymore.
Maybe with Danny Green's shooting the first unit will be better. But if he's still last year Danny, it will be hard.
Of course he's not going to be traded and i don't think he's going to be benched for Patty Mills.

[jptremblay]

Pop should consider bring Pau off the bench. He isn't getting touches on offense. 7 shots yesterday and only 4 shots vs Warriors...with Kawhi now increasing his shots and with LA around...with TP also playing the P&R for him and not for the others... Pau's has no positive impact on the game.
And when Pau isn't involved, his defense hurts even more because he gets easily disconnected if he isn't getting touches.
People think that he doesn't complain and that he is easy to coach... because he is a great guy (and sure he is) but if he isn't involved on offense or doesn't play more minutes he will start complaining in a heartbeat...
It's not only that he wants to score, he is a very unselfish player but he isn't having even the chance to assist frequently.
With his signing I thought about him scoring less than with the Bulls but clearly increasing his assists numbers...but right now he looks like a zombie and his presence hurts the team.

[Nolan]

Pop should consider bring Pau off the bench. He isn't getting touches on offense. 7 shots yesterday and only 4 shots vs Warriors...with Kawhi now increasing his shots and with LA around...with TP also playing the P&R for him and not for the others... Pau's has no positive impact on the game.
And when Pau isn't involved, his defense hurts even more because he gets easily disconnected if he isn't getting touches.
People think that he doesn't complain and that he is easy to coach... because he is a great guy (and sure he is) but if he isn't involved on offense or doesn't play more minutes he will start complaining in a heartbeat...
It's not only that he wants to score, he is a very unselfish player but he isn't having even the chance to assist frequently.
With his signing I thought about him scoring less than with the Bulls but clearly increasing his assists numbers...but right now he looks like a zombie and his presence hurts the team.

I'd like to see him come off the bench as well. Dedmon is exactly what we need out our starting center.

[jptremblay]

Pop should consider bring Pau off the bench. He isn't getting touches on offense. 7 shots yesterday and only 4 shots vs Warriors...with Kawhi now increasing his shots and with LA around...with TP also playing the P&R for him and not for the others... Pau's has no positive impact on the game.
And when Pau isn't involved, his defense hurts even more because he gets easily disconnected if he isn't getting touches.
People think that he doesn't complain and that he is easy to coach... because he is a great guy (and sure he is) but if he isn't involved on offense or doesn't play more minutes he will start complaining in a heartbeat...
It's not only that he wants to score, he is a very unselfish player but he isn't having even the chance to assist frequently.
With his signing I thought about him scoring less than with the Bulls but clearly increasing his assists numbers...but right now he looks like a zombie and his presence hurts the team.

I'd like to see him come off the bench as well. Dedmon is exactly what we need out our starting center.

The problem is that a second unit with Pau-Lee-Simmons-Manu-Mills will be really bad on defense...but those players will fit really well offensively...maybe with the recovery of Green, Kyle Anderson could play at four givin more balance to the 2nd unit. But that would be unfair for David Lee since he is playing really well.

[Nolan]

The problem is that a second unit with Pau-Lee-Simmons-Manu-Mills will be really bad on defense...but those players will fit really well offensively...maybe with the recovery of Green, Kyle Anderson could play at four givin more balance to the 2nd unit. But that would be unfair for David Lee since he is playing really well.

That is very true. Not sure there's really a effective way to get around that either. Maybe have LMA play more minutes with Lee and the bench crew?

[jptremblay]

The problem is that a second unit with Pau-Lee-Simmons-Manu-Mills will be really bad on defense...but those players will fit really well offensively...maybe with the recovery of Green, Kyle Anderson could play at four givin more balance to the 2nd unit. But that would be unfair for David Lee since he is playing really well.

That is very true. Not sure there's really a effective way to get around that either. Maybe have LMA play more minutes with Lee and the bench crew?

Maybe Dedmon should only play the first 6 minutes of each half, then you put Gasol out there paired with LA for 1-2 min ...And then Lee replace Lamarcus.
A Gasol - Lee frontcourt isn't ideal, but surrounded by Kawhi and Jonathon Simmons will give them stability, and Lee and Gasol are great rebounders and for 4-5 min span they will be fresh to defend decently.
At the end of 1st quarter, LA comes back with Lee for four minutes...the Gasol replaces LA and Lee gets replaced by Kawhi or Anderson to play the stretch 4 role for a pair of minutes... suddenly, La gets in again to finish the half with Gasol-Aldridge-Kawhi-Green/Simmons-Tony/Mills.

Assuming that the second half goes the same way...
That mean that Aldridge plays 34-36 min, Gasol 24-26...Dedmon 12 ...and Lee 14-16 min...for me, an ideal rotation to get the max of each player and make them to feel important and involved.

[Nolan]

The problem is that a second unit with Pau-Lee-Simmons-Manu-Mills will be really bad on defense...but those players will fit really well offensively...maybe with the recovery of Green, Kyle Anderson could play at four givin more balance to the 2nd unit. But that would be unfair for David Lee since he is playing really well.

That is very true. Not sure there's really a effective way to get around that either. Maybe have LMA play more minutes with Lee and the bench crew?

Maybe Dedmon should only play the first 6 minutes of each half, then you put Gasol out there paired with LA for 1-2 min ...And then Lee replace Lamarcus.
A Gasol - Lee frontcourt isn't ideal, but surrounded by Kawhi and Jonathon Simmons will give them stability, and Lee and Gasol are great rebounders and for 4-5 min span they will be fresh to defend decently.
At the end of 1st quarter, LA comes back with Lee for four minutes...the Gasol replaces LA and Lee gets replaced by Kawhi or Anderson to play the stretch 4 role for a pair of minutes... suddenly, La gets in again to finish the half with Gasol-Aldridge-Kawhi-Green/Simmons-Tony/Mills.

Assuming that the second half goes the same way...
That mean that Aldridge plays 34-36 min, Gasol 24-26...Dedmon 12 ...and Lee 14-16 min...for me, an ideal rotation to get the max of each player and make them to feel important and involved.

Solid idea my friend. It is a little too early for this talk too lol. I guess we'll see how things progress, hopefully Pau starts performing a bit better.

[Nolan]

Also thought I'd share this chilling stat from last nights game with you guys.

Read on Twitter

That's just scary.

[jptremblay]

That is very true. Not sure there's really a effective way to get around that either. Maybe have LMA play more minutes with Lee and the bench crew?

Maybe Dedmon should only play the first 6 minutes of each half, then you put Gasol out there paired with LA for 1-2 min ...And then Lee replace Lamarcus.
A Gasol - Lee frontcourt isn't ideal, but surrounded by Kawhi and Jonathon Simmons will give them stability, and Lee and Gasol are great rebounders and for 4-5 min span they will be fresh to defend decently.
At the end of 1st quarter, LA comes back with Lee for four minutes...the Gasol replaces LA and Lee gets replaced by Kawhi or Anderson to play the stretch 4 role for a pair of minutes... suddenly, La gets in again to finish the half with Gasol-Aldridge-Kawhi-Green/Simmons-Tony/Mills.

Assuming that the second half goes the same way...
That mean that Aldridge plays 34-36 min, Gasol 24-26...Dedmon 12 ...and Lee 14-16 min...for me, an ideal rotation to get the max of each player and make them to feel important and involved.

Solid idea my friend. It is a little too early for this talk too lol. I guess we'll see how things progress, hopefully Pau starts performing a bit better.

Sure...if we are discussing that...maybe the Warriors forum is going insane and wild.

[90sgoat]

Gasol hate is typical and undeserved as always. Pau is a great team player, a big part of why the ball keeps moving. Same thing on every team he is on. Always made the scapegoat, the idea for him to come off the bench is honestly dumb, if you think Pop is even considering that.

[Cartuse]

Gasol hate is typical and undeserved as always. Pau is a great team player, a big part of why the ball keeps moving. Same thing on every team he is on. Always made the scapegoat, the idea for him to come off the bench is honestly dumb, if you think Pop is even considering that.

Nobody's hating on Gasol, my friend. Just making observations.
To be honest, i've been worried about Gasol since the Olympics. Yeah he put up some numbers from time to time, but he looked REALLY sluggish, and it's not like he's had a ton of rest since then. Vs GS he was flat out winded for half of his PT, and regarding Pop's decisions, he didn't play Gasol vs the Kings during the deciding moments. It must sound as a bit of a cliche, but in my opinion starters (although it may seem dumb) are not the players that start a game but the ones that close it. In this case, we can make an exception because of Cousins, though.
Anyway, I like Gasol as a player, but that doesn't blind me to the fact that at this point in his career he's only helpful for the team in some, and not all, situations. It's the same as what happened with Manu after he hit 35 (and I friggin love Manu, so this has nothing to do with hating on someone).

[UDRIH14]

so how many times this season we got to put up with this clown over dribbling

[perempe20]

The bench - Simmons wasn't all that great tonight but Lee was excellent around the rim and Manu and Patty did they're jobs as well.

I saw Lee in his first game only, he moved excellent, could be a solid starter with 30 minutes elsewhere (TOR?).

Parker is battling an injury (since the finals), and is not expected to make impact as he used to, right?