Nashty & Cactus: Game 2 @ Thunder
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Nashty & Cactus: Game 2 @ Thunder
My heart can't handle this, my goodness.
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Voting for both tonight Cactus & Nashty, although the Cactus might be a little harsh.
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How it works
Voting for both tonight Cactus & Nashty, although the Cactus might be a little harsh.
YOU CAN CACTUS VOTE FOR COACH.

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If I can't give Knight both of them then I would give Watson the -1.

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+3 Warrren +2 Chandler +1 Bledsoe
-3 Len -2 Knight -1 Booker
-3 Len -2 Knight -1 Booker
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3 Warren no question
2 Chandler, somewhat by default
1 Dudley, definitely by default
-3 Len
-2 Knight (I thought he might hit the top list at one pt, but boneheaded plays and 2 ast to 5 to..yuck)
-1 Booker (couldn't decide here but ultimately if you are off and still take 25 shots and end up with 1 assist, that's not acceptable)
2 Chandler, somewhat by default
1 Dudley, definitely by default
-3 Len
-2 Knight (I thought he might hit the top list at one pt, but boneheaded plays and 2 ast to 5 to..yuck)
-1 Booker (couldn't decide here but ultimately if you are off and still take 25 shots and end up with 1 assist, that's not acceptable)
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ginobiliflops wrote:If I can't give Knight both of them then I would give Watson the -1.
I thought Watson should get one as well.
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3. TJ: beast
2. Chandler: +18, solid rim protection.
1. Bledsoe: Brodie may have put up 50 but it was with turrible shooting. Played OK, nearly got us the W.
-3. Book: Ball got stuck in his hands all night and he didn't deliver. Completely killed movement at times.
-2. Len: Didn't need long to have a negative impact and force Chandler to play 38 minutes
-1. Watson: Played some good lineups. But stuffed up the end game with Quese playing center.
2. Chandler: +18, solid rim protection.
1. Bledsoe: Brodie may have put up 50 but it was with turrible shooting. Played OK, nearly got us the W.
-3. Book: Ball got stuck in his hands all night and he didn't deliver. Completely killed movement at times.
-2. Len: Didn't need long to have a negative impact and force Chandler to play 38 minutes
-1. Watson: Played some good lineups. But stuffed up the end game with Quese playing center.

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+3 to Warren for me and that's it.
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PROS:
Warren - 3 just a scoring machine
Chandler - 2 Held down the defence and patrolled the boards
Booker -1 - even though he had a bad shooting game, stayed aggressive and he came up with some big shots
CACTUS:
-1- Watson: Having Knight in the game at the end... and really not running any thing that resembles a motion offence
-2: Len. Just a lost cause
-3: Knight: What on earth. Who tells you to drive head first to the rim when theres three big men patrolling the paint? Out of control, dumb basketball. The stepback clanked corner three was a idiot move, and the airballed 3 in OT was the nail in the coffin.
Warren - 3 just a scoring machine
Chandler - 2 Held down the defence and patrolled the boards
Booker -1 - even though he had a bad shooting game, stayed aggressive and he came up with some big shots
CACTUS:
-1- Watson: Having Knight in the game at the end... and really not running any thing that resembles a motion offence
-2: Len. Just a lost cause
-3: Knight: What on earth. Who tells you to drive head first to the rim when theres three big men patrolling the paint? Out of control, dumb basketball. The stepback clanked corner three was a idiot move, and the airballed 3 in OT was the nail in the coffin.
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+3 Warren. He was a stud
+2 Bledsoe. Solid..not great but hit some big shots.
+1 Dudley. Nobody else really stood out, Dudley was solid as usual.
-3 Chandler. That dumbass foul on Adams in OT was unacceptable.
-2 Booker. Dreadful shooting. Not crazy about the shot selection in first 4 qtrs either.
-1 Knight. Damn boneheaded overdribbling and bad passing killed his scoring spurt.
+2 Bledsoe. Solid..not great but hit some big shots.
+1 Dudley. Nobody else really stood out, Dudley was solid as usual.
-3 Chandler. That dumbass foul on Adams in OT was unacceptable.
-2 Booker. Dreadful shooting. Not crazy about the shot selection in first 4 qtrs either.
-1 Knight. Damn boneheaded overdribbling and bad passing killed his scoring spurt.
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OK, we'll make it you can vote for Earl in the Cactus as well. Update your votes accordingly.

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Sunsss wrote:+3 to Warren for me and that's it.
I need a 3-2-1 otherwise it won't count


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batsmasher wrote:OK, we'll make it you can vote for Earl in the Cactus as well. Update your votes accordingly.
Yay!

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batsmasher wrote:OK, we'll make it you can vote for Earl in the Cactus as well. Update your votes accordingly.
If we could vote for McD he would get a -2 every game for trading for Knight.
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3 Warren - straight beast toinght
2 Chandler - Big difference in the paint
1 Chriss - only 11 minutes but 7 pts and 4 bds
-3 Knight - Cant watch much more of this type of play
-2 Len - absolutely disappointing
-1 Watson - Stupid rotations all night, promises to play the rookies but sticks PJ in first subsitution
2 Chandler - Big difference in the paint
1 Chriss - only 11 minutes but 7 pts and 4 bds
-3 Knight - Cant watch much more of this type of play
-2 Len - absolutely disappointing
-1 Watson - Stupid rotations all night, promises to play the rookies but sticks PJ in first subsitution
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batsmasher wrote:Sunsss wrote:+3 to Warren for me and that's it.
I need a 3-2-1 otherwise it won't count
+3: Warren (he was money, probably should've taken more shots)
+2: Chandler (played a lot of minutes thanks to Len)
+1: Bledsoe (this was tough)
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+3 Warren
+2 Bledsoe
+1 Booker
-3 Len
-2 Knight
-1 Chandler
+2 Bledsoe
+1 Booker
-3 Len
-2 Knight
-1 Chandler
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+3 TJ Warren: Best player in a Suns jersey tonight. He was unstoppable when they played him at the 4, that 4-5 pick and roll with him and Tyson was a killer. He needed to be fed more, he was the only guy having a good game offensively and we didn't capitalize on his matchups.
+2 Tyson Chandler: Solid rim protector, played great defense on Adams for most of the night, and kept Alex Len off of the court.
+1 Eric Bledsoe: Tough matchup for him but he handled it well, he just couldn't hit a jump shot if a gun was held to his head. Took pretty good care of the ball, wasn't getting out of control when he attacked the basket, and he looked to attack and distribute more once he realized his shot just wasn't there.
-1 Alex Len: I can't give him the biggest negative because he just didn't see the court enough. With that said, he was definitely a negative when he was in there and didn't get a single board in 14 minutes at 7 feet tall... We need to stop giving it to him in the post and make his roll simple: set screens and roll to the basket hard, rebound the ball hard, and contest shots on defense.
-2 Brandon Knight: I feel like Knight makes the game difficult for himself. He gets so out of control with the ball and forces up these tough off balance one handed scoop shots or dribbles it off his foot trying to split 4 people. Then when he gets open look he feels the need to fade or just plain not take it. He played decent on ball defense at times, but when he's not hitting his shot he's painful to watch.
-3 Devin Booker: Too much 1 on 1 hero ball from him tonight. I don't like him standing at the top of the key for 20 seconds with Adams defending him and taking a contested 3. He's looked like a non-turnover prone Brandon Knight tonight with all they tough shots and missed layups. On defense he gets caught ball watching frequently and was exposed for it a few times. I expect a bounce back from him for sure.
+2 Tyson Chandler: Solid rim protector, played great defense on Adams for most of the night, and kept Alex Len off of the court.
+1 Eric Bledsoe: Tough matchup for him but he handled it well, he just couldn't hit a jump shot if a gun was held to his head. Took pretty good care of the ball, wasn't getting out of control when he attacked the basket, and he looked to attack and distribute more once he realized his shot just wasn't there.
-1 Alex Len: I can't give him the biggest negative because he just didn't see the court enough. With that said, he was definitely a negative when he was in there and didn't get a single board in 14 minutes at 7 feet tall... We need to stop giving it to him in the post and make his roll simple: set screens and roll to the basket hard, rebound the ball hard, and contest shots on defense.
-2 Brandon Knight: I feel like Knight makes the game difficult for himself. He gets so out of control with the ball and forces up these tough off balance one handed scoop shots or dribbles it off his foot trying to split 4 people. Then when he gets open look he feels the need to fade or just plain not take it. He played decent on ball defense at times, but when he's not hitting his shot he's painful to watch.
-3 Devin Booker: Too much 1 on 1 hero ball from him tonight. I don't like him standing at the top of the key for 20 seconds with Adams defending him and taking a contested 3. He's looked like a non-turnover prone Brandon Knight tonight with all they tough shots and missed layups. On defense he gets caught ball watching frequently and was exposed for it a few times. I expect a bounce back from him for sure.
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3: Warren - a lot of average games all around for the suns but he stands out on this one
2: Chandler - made his impact on the game. he and dudley are the only ones who are not total boneheads on defense.
1: Dudley - played well. Cant really put Book or Bled here coz of their missed shots when its winning time.
-1: Bledsoe - toss-up between him and book on this one, but he really showed that he isnt point guard material today.
-2: Len
-3: Knight
2: Chandler - made his impact on the game. he and dudley are the only ones who are not total boneheads on defense.
1: Dudley - played well. Cant really put Book or Bled here coz of their missed shots when its winning time.
-1: Bledsoe - toss-up between him and book on this one, but he really showed that he isnt point guard material today.
-2: Len
-3: Knight
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+3: TJ: Obviously
+2: Tyson: The +18 really stands out and it makes sense considering his D taking Steven Adams out of it.
+1: Bledsoe: Only 1 turnover is HUGE from Bledsoe. He seems way more in control and patient these days. (0-7 from three though, ouch)
-1: Earl: ......why was Chriss put in with 20 seconds left on the most important defensive possession of the game? Come on my dude.
-2: Knight: Man, even when he is playing well, the offense is hard to watch with him out there. 5 TOs is not pretty.
-3: Len: God, Alex Len is the worst.
Important (but not quite Honorable) Mention: Devin: I am actually not mad at Devin at all; to play 43 minutes with only 1 turnover is pretty legit; he's not going to shoot lights out every game, but his fire and desire for the ball in crunch time is so impressive to me. I was pleased with his play even with all the TOUGH misses.
+2: Tyson: The +18 really stands out and it makes sense considering his D taking Steven Adams out of it.
+1: Bledsoe: Only 1 turnover is HUGE from Bledsoe. He seems way more in control and patient these days. (0-7 from three though, ouch)
-1: Earl: ......why was Chriss put in with 20 seconds left on the most important defensive possession of the game? Come on my dude.
-2: Knight: Man, even when he is playing well, the offense is hard to watch with him out there. 5 TOs is not pretty.
-3: Len: God, Alex Len is the worst.
Important (but not quite Honorable) Mention: Devin: I am actually not mad at Devin at all; to play 43 minutes with only 1 turnover is pretty legit; he's not going to shoot lights out every game, but his fire and desire for the ball in crunch time is so impressive to me. I was pleased with his play even with all the TOUGH misses.