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Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies

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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#481 » by Sunsss » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:22 am

Saberestar wrote:That's is the most important thing :

5/28 in threes. TERRIBLE.

We need to shot better if we want to win some game, Bledsoe 0-7.

We had some good looks too. Getting Dudley more looks wouldn't hurt. Bledsoe's jumper is not there yet and Booker is better from mid-range.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#482 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:22 am

letsgosuns wrote:Bledsoe: 0-7 3pts
Knight: 1-6 3pts
Booker: 2-8 3 pts

Hard to win a game when your guards shoot like that. Idk guys. How many more years will the Suns put up with point guards that are as bad at running an offense as Bledsoe and Knight.


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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#483 » by TeamTragic » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:22 am

kennydorglas wrote:Watson probably tried to hedge the crap out of Westbrook with Chriss, but kinda backfired because he didnt put Chandler in after the TO.

In under no circunstances you put a super raw kid to protect the rim against the freak of this league. It's just crazy. Could've been EASILY an and-1 for them.


Did we forget who was guarding Westbrook? Chriss closed the lane and did his best not to foul.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#484 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:23 am

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letsgosuns wrote:Bledsoe: 0-7 3pts
Knight: 1-6 3pts
Booker: 2-8 3 pts

Hard to win a game when your guards shoot like that. Idk guys. How many more years will the Suns put up with point guards that are as bad at running an offense as Bledsoe and Knight.


Don't worry I have a feeling that Knight will be gone soon. Bledsoe could be traded if we get the right offer. Get ready for the draft and upcoming free agency.


Yeah, I'm sure the phones are ringing off the hook for Knight.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#485 » by TeamTragic » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:24 am

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letsgosuns wrote:Bledsoe: 0-7 3pts
Knight: 1-6 3pts
Booker: 2-8 3 pts

Hard to win a game when your guards shoot like that. Idk guys. How many more years will the Suns put up with point guards that are as bad at running an offense as Bledsoe and Knight.


Don't worry I have a feeling that Knight will be gone soon. Bledsoe could be traded if we get the right offer. Get ready for the draft and upcoming free agency.


Yeah, I'm sure the phones are ringing off the hook for Knight.


McD will work his magic at the trade deadline. Knight will go to a treadmill team. Maybe Orlando or New Orleans.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#486 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:24 am

kennydorglas wrote:Watson probably tried to hedge the crap out of Westbrook with Chriss, but kinda backfired because he didnt put Chandler in after the TO.

In under no circunstances you put a super raw kid to protect the rim against the freak of this league. It's just crazy. Could've been EASILY an and-1 for them.


I guess Watson's a rookie too but that was a ridiculously stupid move.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#487 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:26 am

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Don't worry I have a feeling that Knight will be gone soon. Bledsoe could be traded if we get the right offer. Get ready for the draft and upcoming free agency.


Yeah, I'm sure the phones are ringing off the hook for Knight.


McD will work his magic at the trade deadline. Knight will go to a treadmill team. Maybe Orlando or New Orleans.


Probably neither, but possibly Philly. Pelicans don't really need him. Orlando doesn't really need him...I mean what team would truly want him if they scout him?
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#488 » by Jdiddy701 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:27 am

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kennydorglas wrote:Watson probably tried to hedge the crap out of Westbrook with Chriss, but kinda backfired because he didnt put Chandler in after the TO.

In under no circunstances you put a super raw kid to protect the rim against the freak of this league. It's just crazy. Could've been EASILY an and-1 for them.


I guess Watson's a rookie too but that was a ridiculously stupid move.


Yeah Watson will make mistakes. No doubt the Suns play with more energy under him. Looking forward to the rest of the season. I just don't get why Alex Len is playing so bad. He just looks lost. I thought he was an average defender, he's far from that now.


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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#489 » by kennydorglas » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:28 am

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kennydorglas wrote:Watson probably tried to hedge the crap out of Westbrook with Chriss, but kinda backfired because he didnt put Chandler in after the TO.

In under no circunstances you put a super raw kid to protect the rim against the freak of this league. It's just crazy. Could've been EASILY an and-1 for them.


Did we forget who was guarding Westbrook? Chriss closed the lane and did his best not to foul.


no one in this league can guard westbrook in the PNR...
so, yes, it's up for the bigs to contest him if he gets a decent screen.

I'm very happy Chriss didnt tried to contest but Watson just set him up to fail there.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#490 » by RaisingArizona » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:29 am

bwgood77 wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure the phones are ringing off the hook for Knight.


McD will work his magic at the trade deadline. Knight will go to a treadmill team. Maybe Orlando or New Orleans.


Probably neither, but possibly Philly. Pelicans don't really need him. Orlando doesn't really need him...I mean what team would truly want him if they scout him?

Someone desperate to get over the hump. Like Washington last year was with the Kieff deal.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#491 » by TeamTragic » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:29 am

bwgood77 wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure the phones are ringing off the hook for Knight.


McD will work his magic at the trade deadline. Knight will go to a treadmill team. Maybe Orlando or New Orleans.


Probably neither, but possibly Philly. Pelicans don't really need him. Orlando doesn't really need him...I mean what team would truly want him if they scout him?


I'm going to assume a panic move. Washington. New Orleans. AD will be bolting pretty soon.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#492 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:31 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
McD will work his magic at the trade deadline. Knight will go to a treadmill team. Maybe Orlando or New Orleans.


Probably neither, but possibly Philly. Pelicans don't really need him. Orlando doesn't really need him...I mean what team would truly want him if they scout him?

Someone desperate to get over the hump. Like Washington last year was with the Kieff deal.


But Kieff is a better player who made half as much money at a less saturated position. I hope we trade him, and think we should and probably will try but I'm just not sure who would want him other than maybe Philly.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#493 » by TeamTragic » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:34 am

bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Probably neither, but possibly Philly. Pelicans don't really need him. Orlando doesn't really need him...I mean what team would truly want him if they scout him?

Someone desperate to get over the hump. Like Washington last year was with the Kieff deal.


But Kieff is a better player who made half as much money at a less saturated position. I hope we trade him, and think we should and probably will try but I'm just not sure who would want him other than maybe Philly.


Kieff is one dumb move away from being in jail. At least Knight will be in the NBA riding the pine on a big contract.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#494 » by darealjuice » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:37 am

TJ was a killer tonight, we needed to exploit his matchup more when we played him at Power Forward. Booker needs to finish at the rim hard, he tries to finesse it a bit much sometimes. We need to find our stroke from 3, 18 percent is real bad. I don't like how much of our offense revolves around 1 on 1s right now, we need more movement and shooting in rhythm not pounding the ball.

With that said, our guards have been playing like **** and that's supposed to be our forte this year. Hopefully they start to mesh and find their groove, because we'll be a lot better if that happens. Wish we saw more of the rookies tonight, but it was a fast physical game and they may have gotten exposed a little so I understand.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#495 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:37 am

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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#496 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:38 am

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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#497 » by LukasBMW » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:40 am

If Chandler tweaked his hamstring and that prompted a sub for that last play:

I TOTALLY understand not wanting to put in estrogen candy ass ...errrr...I mean Len. BUT even if you are HELL bent on putting in a Rookie, why not put in the one rookie we have that is 7'1" and has already shown the ability to defend the rim AND chase down guys on the perimeter.

OR

If you are HELL BENT on trapping Westbrook, we have a pesky 5'10" guard who seems to get a steal on every other posession. Why not trap with him?

I get that Chriss is already a decent weak side shot blocker and I also get that he has shown the ability to be physical and won't back down from a dude like Adams, but under the circumstances, throwing him in was supid stupid stupid!
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Post#498 » by KLEON » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:41 am

Watson is already behaving like a mini Hornacek. Bender played 7 minutes and Ulis only 1 minute but Knight gets 35 minutes. I'm bit pissed with Booker because these past 2 games he not being aggressive enough and he's rushing his shots.
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#499 » by LukasBMW » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:42 am

Watching Brandon Knight is like buying a lottery scratcher ticket.

20% of the time, it's fun and you win. 80% of the time, you lose and realize you were an idiot. :banghead:
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Re: Game 2: The Rise of the Rookies 

Post#500 » by DirtyDez » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:50 am

Saberestar wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:Not too impressed with Westbrook's point total. He had to take like... 45 shots for it. That is an insane amount of shots for one player.

The incredible thing is that he wasn't even tired. He must be on serious drugs.


He's the Jordan of our era in terms of durability and energy. Jordan would fly to Vegas and gamble plus play 36 holes on days off between finals games vs Utah. Some guys are human PED's.
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