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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#161 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:34 am

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Jdiddy701 wrote:Archie Goodwin drawing interest from Phila, Boston and Atlanta. Would be shocked if Phila didn't sign him.


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He will be out the league soon, just a horrible basketball player.


Not sure why the hell Boston would have interest. They have a ton of guards. Unless they main reason McD liked him was because Ainge did (since he drafted him in his first draft, maybe a month after leaving Boston).
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#162 » by Villalobos » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:26 am

The Pelicans have their pick, right? AD needs help. I can't name anyone on that team off the top of my head except him, Jrue, and Buddy Hield because he was just picked.

AD needs some Brandon Knight in his life. :shy:
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#163 » by TeamTragic » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:36 am

Villalobos wrote:The Pelicans have their pick, right? AD needs help. I can't name anyone on that team off the top of my head except him, Jrue, and Buddy Hield because he was just picked.

AD needs some Brandon Knight in his life. :shy:


AD doesn't need anyone including Knight.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#164 » by ATTL » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:50 am

Which teams have assets and could be interested in one of our point guards?
Philly
Pels
Orlando has Payton but maybe?
Sac?
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Post#165 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:50 am

Villalobos wrote:The Pelicans have their pick, right? AD needs help. I can't name anyone on that team off the top of my head except him, Jrue, and Buddy Hield because he was just picked.

AD needs some Brandon Knight in his life. :shy:


They have Jrue Holiday, but right now while he is out Tim Frazier is a stud passer racking up assists. Then yes they have Hield but they also have Tyreke Evans out right now. I doubt they need another guy to handle the ball and shoot.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#166 » by letsgosuns » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:52 am

I am all for trading Bledsoe or Knight for either one of the available centers from the 76ers. There is no way that they could be worse than what Len showed tonight. He is playing worse than I ever imagined.
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Post#167 » by bwgood77 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:55 am

ATTL wrote:Which teams have assets and could be interested in one of our point guards?
Philly
Pels
Orlando has Payton but maybe?
Sac?


Which point guards? If you are calling Knight a PG that is an insult to point guards. Probably just Philly. They are going with Sergio Rodriguez and TJ McConnell right now (but I'd rather have TJ than BK tbh). Sac has Lawson and Collison. Orlando I don't think needs him considering they just traded Oladipo for Serge and have Fournier at SG and Mario Hezonja waiting. Then they have CJ Watson and Augustin backing him up. His salary will be a deterrent.
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Post#168 » by AtheJ415 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:56 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Villalobos wrote:The Pelicans have their pick, right? AD needs help. I can't name anyone on that team off the top of my head except him, Jrue, and Buddy Hield because he was just picked.

AD needs some Brandon Knight in his life. :shy:


They have Jrue Holiday, but right now while he is out Tim Frazier is a stud passer racking up assists. Then yes they have Hield but they also have Tyreke Evans out right now. I doubt they need another guy to handle the ball and shoot.


I think Philly is an option. Houston as a 2 (Harden will be the 1 under D'Antoni, but Knight is really a 2 anyways so that's actually a fit). Maybe Sacramento. The problem is I don't think a trade could be done b/c those teams have nothing we would want unless they are willing to give us somebody unexpected (like Okafor, who has more value than Knight), or good picks. I think Knight is here to stay, which isn't a problem as a 6th man so long as he defends and continues to develop. He may not, but he's still just 24, so he ought to.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#169 » by LukasBMW » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:24 am

Can we please pickup a serviceable center? Len sucks and if Chandler goes down, we are F-ed.
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Post#170 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:12 am

LukasBMW wrote:Can we please pickup a serviceable center? Len sucks and if Chandler goes down, we are F-ed.


**** how, if we were trying to make the playoffs/win games id agree. But i honestly would not give two **** if they both got injured. Id just roll with Bender/Chriss and Williams at C.
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Post#171 » by batsmasher » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:03 am

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ATTL wrote:Which teams have assets and could be interested in one of our point guards?
Philly
Pels
Orlando has Payton but maybe?
Sac?


Which point guards? If you are calling Knight a PG that is an insult to point guards. Probably just Philly. They are going with Sergio Rodriguez and TJ McConnell right now (but I'd rather have TJ than BK tbh). Sac has Lawson and Collison. Orlando I don't think needs him considering they just traded Oladipo for Serge and have Fournier at SG and Mario Hezonja waiting. Then they have CJ Watson and Augustin backing him up. His salary will be a deterrent.

I could totally see Rob Hennigan doing it. Something centered around Knight for Vooch. We throw in a good pick or two. Gordon gets to play more 4. Biyombo starts and gives them some actual D.

Vooch would be sooooooo perfect with our core on the offensive end. Defense? Eh.

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#172 » by letsgosuns » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:11 am

From Marc Stein's column today:

7. Three established names we expect to be dealt are …

Rudy Gay.

Nerlens Noel.

Ricky Rubio.

http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4633/will-boogie-be-traded-this-year-is-harden-going-to-make-history
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Post#173 » by nevetsov » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:19 am

My hopes by the end of the season, if we abstain from any major trades:

Spots 1-9: Rotation
Bledsoe, Ulis
Booker, Knight
Bender, Warren
Chriss, Bender
Chandler, Len

Spots 10-12: Bench vets
Barbosa, Tucker, Dudley

Spots 13-15: D- LEAGUE
Jenkins, Jones JR, Williams
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Post#174 » by Zelaznyrules » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:53 am

nevetsov wrote:My hopes by the end of the season, if we abstain from any major trades:

Spots 1-9: Rotation
Bledsoe, Ulis
Booker, Knight
Bender, Warren
Chriss, Bender
Chandler, Len

Spots 10-12: Bench vets
Barbosa, Tucker, Dudley

Spots 13-15: D- LEAGUE
Jenkins, Jones JR, Williams


I'm hoping the coaches know exactly why Len's game has disappeared and that it's just a matter of time before the problem gets solved. But absent that pretty little miracle, I see no reason for Len to see any real time out there. Right now, I think we'd be better off using Williams, Bender, Chriss or even Tucker as our backup 5. Of course I'm talking about PJ after he gets back into basketball shape, right now he probably shouldn't be seeing court time either.

But other than Len, your rotation seems doable. However, even though I know it's a long shot, I'm hoping that by the end of the season Jones Jr will have given us a reason to move him into the rotation over Barbosa. Actually I'm kind of hoping that Ulis is forcing consideration as a starter by then too. Perhaps even a lineup of Ulis, Bledsoe, Booker, Warren (or Chriss or Bender) with Chandler protecting the paint for us.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#175 » by Dambo » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:00 am

Len for noel por favor!
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#176 » by DRK » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:45 am

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion 

Post#177 » by gaspar » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:33 am

NBA.com is tracking "hustle stats" this season. After 2 games TJ leads the league in deflections at 6.5 and the Suns are 2nd at 24.5 per game. Chandler is 2nd in "screen assists" and the Suns are 5th as a team.
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Post#178 » by ATTL » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:43 am

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Can't imagine why.
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Post#179 » by Qwigglez » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:45 am

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DRK wrote:
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Can't imagine why.


It's crazy to me that even the most casual fans realize how inefficient a player B-Knight is. I think it's also his demeanor on the court.
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Post#180 » by NTB » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:49 am

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Every time Knight comes in, all the fans watching him with 2 middle fingers. How about that?
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